Anthony Bourdain with the Goods.

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Many democrats disagree with you.

bull , where is the legislative bill, fed or state, to confiscate guns?

there is confiscation in CA but it's from ex-felons breaking the law.

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The NRA is a joke anyway, the GOA is a better defender of gun rights....

I never heard of gutless politicians pissing their pants in fear of GOA. Got any evidence of GOA's political power to block gun legislation?

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The only true defenders of gun rights are the people themselves. And they are well defended.

paranoid idiocy.

[rjv]

well as long as he defers to the guilty pleasures of a frito pie...

[AntiChrist]

I think Bourdain makes a really good point that has nothing to do with gun control.

[RandomGuy]

Some of you Lefty pussies should take note.



"As much as I’d like to wax effusively about the delights of the Frito pie, a shamefully delightful flavor bomb that pleases in equal measure to its feeling in the hand like a steaming dog turd, I suspect what people are going to talk about when they see our New Mexico episode is the sight of me; socialist sympathizer, leftie, liberal New Yorker, gleefully hammering away with an AR-15, an instrument of mayhem and loathing that also has the distinction of being America’s favorite weapon.

I like guns.

I like shooting them. I like holding their sleek, heavy, deadly weight in my hands. I like shooting at targets: cans, paper cut-outs, and—even though I’m not a hunter—the occasional animal. Though I do not own a gun—I would, if I lived in a rural area like, say…Montana—consider owning one. Whatever my feelings about gun regulation—and my worries, as a father, about what kind of world my daughter will have to live in, I think I should have as many guns as I like. Even Ted Nugent should have guns. He likes them a lot. They make him happy—and as offensive as I may find a lot of what comes out of his mouth, I’m pretty sure, based on first hand experience, that he’s a responsible gun owner.

You, however, I’m not so sure about. And my next door neighbor. I’m not so sure about him either. I’d like to know a bit more about him before he takes possession of an M-16 and a whole lot of extra clips. If we accept the proposition that that a gun is simply a tool—with potentially lethal properties—it follows that it’s not too different than a vehicle. And I would like to know a LOT more about you before I’m comfortable putting you behind the wheel of a sixteen wheeler. I’d like to know if you’re a maniacal drunk or crackhead before allowing you to barrel down that highway with three tons of trailer swinging behind you. If you favor an aluminum foil hat as headgear, I would have concerns about entrusting you with so much power to harm so many in so little time. That’s a reasonable thing for a society to ponder on, I think.

The upcoming New Mexico show is not about guns. Though there are, as in much of America between the coasts, many guns there. This show is about the American cowboy ideal, about the romantic promise of the American West, about individuality, the freedom to be weird. New Mexico, where Spanish, Mexican, Pueblo, Navajo and European cultures mix and have mixed—at times painfully, lately more easily. New Mexico, where everyone from artists, hippies, cowboys, poets, misfits, refugees, and tourists, of every political stripe have interpreted the promise of its gorgeous, wide open spaces and the freedom that that offers in their own, very different ways. New Mexico is an enchanted land, where people are largely free to create their own world.

Americans are traditionally, by nature, su ious—and even hostile—to government. Whether we admit it or not, we were, most of us, suckled on the idea that a “man” should solve his own problems—that there are simple answers to complex questions—and that if all else fails, taking the situation into one’s own hands—violently—is somehow “cleansing” and heroic. Whether playing cowboys and Indians as a child, or watching films—those are our heroes, our icons: the lone gunman, the outlaw, the gangster, the ordinary man pushed too far. That’s a uniquely American pathology. And even the ex-flower children who’ve escaped the cities of the East to put Indian feathers in their hair, turquoise around their neck—and a battered pair of cowboy boots are, on some level, buying in to that ethos of a mythical West.

In New York, where I live, the appearance of a gun—anywhere—is a cause for immediate and extreme alarm. Yet, in much of America, I have come to find, it’s perfectly normal. I’ve walked many times into bars in Missouri, Nevada, Texas, where absolutely everyone is packing. I’ve sat down many times to dinner in perfectly nice family homes where—at end of dinner—Mom swings open the gun locker and invites us all to step into the back yard and pot some beer cans. That may not be Piers Morgan’s idea of normal. It may not be yours. But that’s a facet of American life that’s unlikely to change.

I may be a New York lefty—with all the experiences, prejudices and at udes that one would expect to come along with that, but I do NOT believe that we will reduce gun violence—or reach any kind of consensus—by shrieking at each other. Gun owners—the vast majority of them I have met—are NOT idiots. They are NOT psychos. They are not even necessarily Republican (New Mexico, by the way, is a Blue State). They are not hicks, right wing “nuts” or necessarily violent by nature. And if “we” have any hope of ever changing anything in this country in the cause of reason—and the safety of our children—we should stop talking about a significant part of our population as if they were lesser, stupider or crazier than we are. The bat absolutist Wayne LaPierre may not represent the vast majority of gun owners in this land—but if pushed—if the conversation veers towards talk of taking away people’s guns—many gun owners will shade towards him—and away from us.

Gun culture goes DEEP in this country. Deep. A whole of a lot of people I’ve met remember Daddy giving them their first rifle as early as age six—and that kind of bonding—that first walk through the early morning woods with your Dad—that’s deep tissue stuff. When people start equating guns—ALL guns—as evil—as something to be eradicated, a whole uva lot of people are going to get defensive.

The conversation so far has illuminated, instead of any substantial issues, mostly the huge cultural divide between those like me who live in coastal cities with restrictive gun laws—and that vast swath of America who live very differently. We don’t understand how they live. And they don’t understand how we could POSSIBLY live the way we live. A little respect for that difference might be a good thing. The contempt, mockery and total lack of understanding for all those people “out there” by deep thinkers and pundits who’ve never sat down for a cold beer in a bar full of camo-wearing duck hunters is both de able and counterproductive. We are too busy expressing disbelief at the ways others have chosen to live to ever really talk about the nuts and bolts of making America safer and less violent.

No middle ground is possible when even the notion of a sane, reasonable person who likes to shoot lots of bullets at stuff is seen as so foreign—so “other”. Maybe we would be better off– safer, kinder to one another if we were Denmark or Sweden.

But we are not.

And riding across the incredible landscape of Ghost Ranch outside of Sante Fe, seeing the canyons and arroyos that so inspired Georgia O’ Keefe and generations of artists, writers and seekers who followed, one is especially glad we are not.

There are a lot of nice people in this country. A whole uva lot of them, like it or not, own AR-15s. If we can’t have at least, a conversation with them, sit down, break bread— about where we are going and how we are going to get there, there is no hope at all.

As far as the much more important question of where I stand on the question of red chile—or green?

I’m green all the way. And New Mexico’s got it best."

meh. I still think the second amendment should be repealed.

I think it should be legal to own guns for anyone who gets a license and passes some minimal checks though.

Right? no.
Priviledge? yes.

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"I think it should be legal to own guns for anyone who gets a license"

I do, too.

but getting a license and actually buying AND CONTROLLING the guns would be much harder.

There would be a registration tax at purchase, including photo taken and attached to registration record, a registered le for each serial-numbered gun, and an annual re-registration fee.

Guns sold would require a le transfer, a le transfer fee, just like for cars and houses.

And there'd be all kinds of people and actions that justify confiscation (yielding) guns, steep fines for gun injury, gun death and loss of gun. As with a car, if you sell a gun but the le isn't transferred to the buyer, you are liable for the gun.

The objective is not to deny gun ownership (gun fellators are incorrigible), but to restrict ownership only to qualified buyers.

btw, theft of guns from owners (gun shops or private owners) causes a steep fine to the owner.

anybody found in possession of a gun without a serial number, the gun is confiscated and destroyed, and the possessor fined or jailed.

anybody found in possession of a gun without proof of le and registration is fined.

etc, etc.

All these kids killed with daddy's and mama's unsecured guns would cause daddy or mama to be fined and perhaps jailed, and denied gun ownership for x years.

[TSA]

"I think it should be legal to own guns for anyone who gets a license"

I do, too.

but getting a license and actually buying AND CONTROLLING the guns would be much harder.

There would be a registration tax at purchase, including photo taken and attached to registration record, a registered le for each serial-numbered gun, and an annual re-registration fee.

Guns sold would require a le transfer, a le transfer fee, just like for cars and houses.

And there'd be all kinds of people and actions that justify confiscation (yielding) guns, steep fines for gun injury, gun death and loss of gun. As with a car, if you sell a gun but the le isn't transferred to the buyer, you are liable for the gun.

The objective is not to deny gun ownership (gun fellators are incorrigible), but to restrict ownership only to qualified buyers.

btw, theft of guns from owners (gun shops or private owners) causes a steep fine to the owner.

anybody found in possession of a gun without a serial number, the gun is confiscated and destroyed, and the possessor fined or jailed.

anybody found in possession of a gun without proof of le and registration is fined.

etc, etc.

All these kids killed with daddy's and mama's unsecured guns would cause daddy or mama to be fined and perhaps jailed, and denied gun ownership for x years.

I agree with all of this except a fine for the owner as a result of theft. Having said that, none of this makes a considerable dent in gun violence.

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I agree with all of this except a fine for the owner as a result of theft. Having said that, none of this makes a considerable dent in gun violence.

well, America is ed after you gun fellators supported the NRA and gun industry to allow guns to be freely available so that now the country is inundated with 300M guns.

iow, 300M guns means more gun deaths, more gun injuries, thanks to You People.

My objective of the above is to change the gun-mfr-enriching culture of "guns are toys and fun for the whole family, EVERYBODY should go buys lots of guns" to "guns are death tools and to be treated like plutonium".

It will take time to implement, and much money, but the sales/ le/registration fees would make such gun control self-financing. and the fees would be raised until the gun control became self-financing.

After a grace period where all guns are submitted to the control regime and fees, enforcement would be brutal.

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well, America is ed after you gun fellators supported the NRA and gun industry to allow guns to be freely available so that now the country is inundated with 300M guns.

iow, 300M guns means more gun deaths, more gun injuries, thanks to You People.

My objective of the above is to change the gun-mfr-enriching culture of "guns are toys and fun for the whole family, EVERYBODY should go buys lots of guns" to "guns are death tools and to be treated like plutonium".

It will take time to implement, and much money, but the sales/ le/registration fees would make such gun control self-financing. and the fees would be raised until the gun control became self-financing.

After a grace period where all guns are submitted to the control regime and fees, enforcement would be brutal.

All this still does nothing to curb gun violence.

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All this still does nothing to curb gun violence.

eventually it will. the gun violence today is due to People Like You, Thanks A Lot

[angrydude]

bull , where is the legislative bill, fed or state, to confiscate guns?

there is confiscation in CA but it's from ex-felons breaking the law.

and that's why you're a dumbass

[TSA]

eventually it will. the gun violence today is due to People Like You, Thanks A Lot

the law abiding gun owners like myself who've committed ZERO crimes are responsible for gun violence

Leave it to libs to blame others

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the law abiding gun owners like myself who've committed ZERO crimes are responsible for gun violence

Leave it to libs to blame others

You People have agitated for no b/g checks, etc, etc, many have financed NRA with memebship and donsations, 1000s have pounded their politicians for years about NO GUN CONTROL, etc, etc or whatever the NRA/GOA dictates to them to write about.

[TSA]

You People have agitated for no b/g checks, etc, etc, many have financed NRA with memebship and donsations, 1000s have pounded their politicians for years about NO GUN CONTROL, etc, etc or whatever the NRA/GOA dictates to them to write about.

We are still not responsible for the gun violence. Place the blame on your own party for all the gun violence as the majority of it is being carried out by inner city democrats.

[symple19]

Enjoyed the article

[TSA]

I'm always interested in the political beliefs of chefs.

He's got a firmer grasp on the subject than 99% of the politicians in office.

[ElNono]

I'm personally not moved by the "tradition" argument. I mean, once upon a time, slavery was just as traditional and deeply rooted in the country's culture as well.

In general, I like Bourdain shows though.