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Number 1 in my book. I need to check out the wire tho. Was a big fan of niptuck and still into soa but breaking bad seems to be my favorite
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2) breaking bad
3) fresh prince
Number 1 in my book. I need to check out the wire tho. Was a big fan of niptuck and still into soa but breaking bad seems to be my favorite
Soprano's at #1, Breaking Bad at a very close 2nd.
How so? It gave closure to Walt, Pinkman, Lydia, Todd, his Arian family members... earlier in the episode closure to Skylar, the kids, the bodies of Schraeder and Gomez.. People had legitimate reason to gripe with the Soprano's, not here. I'm just upset to see the show end.
I would still go The Wire #1. The world just had so many more people in it and you were interested in what would happen to most of them. You grow to love all the kids, even Namond.
It wasn't much of a death scene for me. I will watch it again. Am I to take it he died loving meth making? Affectionate patting of the equipment.... Or perhaps it was just chemistry...
The Wire at best was some of the best there has ever been. I almost couldn't make it through the last season though it did finish strong.
Breaking Bad was excellent from start to finish so I give it the nod just for consistency. I need to rewatch the Sopranos, its been a long time and I do not think it's fair to comment.
I thought Randy was a got.
To me it was just to touch on where it all began.
The Wire > Breaking Bad = Mad Men >> Six Feet Under > Treme
Not sure what I'd place next without giving it more thought. I love the performances on The Sopranos, and a number of the moments, but I think it was a very flawed show and it would probably end up pretty low on my list.
Might have to get HBO for the month just to watch the Wire. Must be a reason you all keep mentioning it..
What didn't you like about it?
I don't think HBO even airs re-runs of The Wire anymore. Best bet is illegally getting it, or buying it on DVD(no Blu Ray)
LOST? That show was a cluster .
funny that you don't like the final scene because it wasn't believable enough but you believe everything in the bible.
BANG BANG, tbh..
But with a subscription to HBO you could watch it on HBOGo.
I just had a lot of issues with pacing and the lack of real character development. It's similar to its cousin Boardwalk Empire in that sense, as both are shows that I really respect and admire in terms of their ambition and their technical proficiency, but I just don't viscerally love either one of them. And considering how much of a fan I've always been of the gangster/mafia genre and the people involved and the world the two shows live in and all of that, I should love them. Since I don't, watching each episode made me far too aware of wasted potential.
It's not my fault you didn't understand it.
Ok, at least explain the polar bear to me. What was that about?
they don't really have to, it's on HBO Go.
My Comcast cable has all the HBO full series on demand. It's how I saw the Wire and now how I'm seeing the Sopranos.
I don't disagree with your point, but Sopranos has the disadvantage of basing the premise of the show on sociopathic characters with antiquated views on the world, tbh..
The majority of the characters are in the mafia, an organization with a flawed system in comparison to the rest of society and limited potential growth from a mental and social perspective, tbh..
As BB said earlier, the characters on the show are mostly one-dimensional, but that's because they are based on real life figures, tbh..mafia figures are mostly uneducated, barbaric types that perpetually remain stuck in their ways..I don't know how Chase could have exhibited real growth in any of his characters when he's basing it on a real faction of people/rules of their life..
For example, they did toy with the idea of potential growth from Christopher, similar to Jesse, with his disdain for Tony + his passion for becoming a movie writer, but he always reverted back to the mafia lifestyle in fear of living a "normal, boring" life(as shown in the scenes where he sees the White trash family after Adriana admits to being a rat + the scene where Christopher shoots a bakery clerk because he isn't afraid of him) ..I just don't see how they could have made the characters more dimensional or likeable, since its based on such a barbaric group of people..
Character development =/= character growth.
The Sopranos, and a lot of other shows, define their characters according to what they do and what is done to them. But that's plot. Character growth or progression is also generally based in plot or narrative. But character development, at least as I see it, involves making the characters feel like fully fleshed out people living in a real world, and The Sopranos always fell short of that mark for me. The performances can occasionally mask the lack of development, and certainly someone like Gandolfini imbues even the thinnest characters with a wealth of personality and mannerisms that feel real and authentic, but in my opinion most of the characters felt as though they existed for no reason other than to advance or hinder narrative progression, which I find quite distracting in a drama.
Fully fleshed out people? The New Jersey mafia was a bunch of simpletons who were literally count to potato re ed. It's hilarious that their biggest caper was robbing a bank in the World Trade Center of like $2-$3 million, but none of it was in US dollars and of course they had no way to change all that money. To make matters worse, they took their masks off as soon as they left the elevator, so their pictures were all over the front page of the NY newspapers. And to make it worse when the robbers flipped, the higher ups in the crew still worked with them immediately after seeing their photos on the front page, not really putting two and two together that the only reason the robbers were free was because they flipped. And then the whole family flipped, including the boss that Tony was based on.
No one in the real life crew was a fully fleshed person, and I'm glad Sopranos didn't try to give any of them any sophistication whatsoever. It's good that they didn't portray them quite as stupid as they were in real life though, as it would have then been an equivalent to "Ernest Joins the Mafia". The DeCavalcantes were a bunch of Bobby Bacalas.
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