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    Washington will be back in 2014 but that will be his last year as the manager for the Rangers. The only thing that can save him in 2014 is a World Series championship. If the Rangers have a bad start in 2014, I wouldn't be surprised if the Rangers fire him in May or June. I give props to the Rangers for forcing game 163 but they shouldn't have even been in that situation. If they had played just a tiny bit better, they would have at least been a wild card team. And why do the Rangers get a pass for being chokers? Before 2011, the Mavs and Dirk got bashed 24/7 for their choking.
    Rangers had injured pitching most of the year, and lost our best/only power hitter for 50 games, and they still almost reached the playoffs. I don't know why people keep saying they choked. They shouldn't have gotten to the playoffs in their situation...they met expectations.

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    lol at people saying wash was a genius when they were playing world series

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    So why don't the Rangers get the pre 2011 Mavs treatment?

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    lol at people saying wash was a genius when they were playing world series
    Who said that?

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    Andrus bunt in the 8th, acting on his own or Washingtons call?

    Either way it was a very good bunt. That was simply an excellent defensive play by Price.
    9 out of 10 that bunt gets a single vs a lefthander.

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    Bonehead moves by MultiRanger?

    Getting picked off twice.
    Pitching ball placement to Longoria in the 6th. He has been hammering that low middle ball.
    http://espn.go.com/blog/statsinfo/po...ion-vs-rangers

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    i think ESPN did a segment on him and how his risky subs utions and calls were hidden genius

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    Rangers had injured pitching most of the year, and lost our best/only power hitter for 50 games, and they still almost reached the playoffs. I don't know why people keep saying they choked. They shouldn't have gotten to the playoffs in their situation...they met expectations.
    That is all true, but considering the fact that this is two straight years where they had the best team on paper in the AL, yet flamed out towards the end of the season and couldn't string together a series of clutch hits to save their lives, something isn't right mentally with this team. That falls on coaching.

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    Rangers can't sell out playoff games. Josh said last year when he left that Dallas
    is a football town.

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    i have no problem with Wash.

    tbh the Rangers roster, as assembled, performed about how they were expected imho. Best slugger out and a lineup that is only slightly above average without him, a decent pitching staff with questions at the 4 and 5 spot all season, letting players walk in the offseason w/o picking up big names in return.

    should anybody really have expected more from this team?

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    That is all true, but considering the fact that this is two straight years where they had the best team on paper in the AL, yet flamed out towards the end of the season and couldn't string together a series of clutch hits to save their lives, something isn't right mentally with this team. That falls on coaching.
    Yeah..probably a bit true...but we'll have to see. I still feel he's a good coach for this team.

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    i have no problem with Wash.

    tbh the Rangers roster, as assembled, performed about how they were expected imho. Best slugger out and a lineup that is only slightly above average without him, a decent pitching staff with questions at the 4 and 5 spot all season, letting players walk in the offseason w/o picking up big names in return.

    should anybody really have expected more from this team?
    My point exactly. Couldn't agree more.

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    washington has always been a horrible decision maker. how the did they not have Darvish on the mound for a win or go home game?

    why the did he put that old Darren Oliver in to try and close out the series? the world ing series? how does a manager get away with such stupidity and still have a job? I don't understand baseball sometimes.

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    washington has always been a horrible decision maker. how the did they not have Darvish on the mound for a win or go home game?
    Darvish pitched in game 162 on Sunday in what was also a "win or go home" game. If Wash started Perez in game 162 in order to keep Darvish available for game 163, and if the Rangers lost game 162, you would be saying the exact same thing.

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    Darvish pitched in game 162 on Sunday in what was also a "win or go home" game. If Wash started Perez in game 162 in order to keep Darvish available for game 163, and if the Rangers lost game 162, you would be saying the exact same thing.
    you save darvish. there's a big difference between facing the angels and rays. someone else would have done fine on Sunday.

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    washington has always been a horrible decision maker. how the did they not have Darvish on the mound for a win or go home game?

    why the did he put that old Darren Oliver in to try and close out the series? the world ing series? how does a manager get away with such stupidity and still have a job? I don't understand baseball sometimes.
    Darvish pitched in the game that got us IN to that game. You can't pitch two games in a row. Besides, our lineup hasn't hit for with Darvish on the mound this year. You have to go with who's fresh..that's more important than anything. The bolded phrase couldn't be more right.

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    you save darvish. there's a big difference between facing the angels and rays. someone else would have done fine on Sunday.
    Angels were begging to be spoilers, and without Darvish, it's quite possible they would have been. Saving a pitcher for a playoff tiebreaker that might not happen is the equivalent of a receiver turning his head to run before he catches the ball. It's stupid, it's y, and it's going to get you beat.

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    Angels were begging to be spoilers, and without Darvish, it's quite possible they would have been. Saving a pitcher for a playoff tiebreaker that might not happen is the equivalent of a receiver turning his head to run before he catches the ball. It's stupid, it's y, and it's going to get you beat.
    RangerFan mob armed with pitchforks would have been coming for Washington had Angel pulled the upset while Darvish was being saved.
    Last edited by Fabbs; 10-02-2013 at 05:52 PM.

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    they had the best team on paper in the AL.
    Last year, maybe, but this year the Tigers have em beat. Cabrera/Fielder back to back in that lineup and then Verlander, Scherzer, and Sanchez (AL leader in ERA) pitching.

    If we're going by on paper you could even argue that the Multiscioscias are better

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    Angels were begging to be spoilers, and without Darvish, it's quite possible they would have been. Saving a pitcher for a playoff tiebreaker that might not happen is the equivalent of a receiver turning his head to run before he catches the ball. It's stupid, it's y, and it's going to get you beat.
    As far as that logic goes, I actually would've saved Darvish for the TB game. Either way you have to win 2 games to get to the playoffs. Why not just put your team in the best position to win both instead of going all out for 1? Who cares if you lose the 1st game instead of losing the 'play in' game? it's not like it's really that big of a difference.

    If you have Darvish vs Vargas and then Perez vs Price, you put yourself in a great position to win the first, but not the second.

    If you have Perez vs Vargas and then Darvish vs Price, you're probably the slight favorite in both.

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    To play Devil's Advocate of my own post, what if you did the whole Perez vs Vargas route, lost that gamble, and then David Price ends up burning to death in a grease fire the next day meaning that TB has to call up an emergency starter in which you would have had a great shot to win anyway but you already lost so you lost your chance. Then you'd also be kicking yourself. It's like the quantum mechanics of dual-wave particality (sp?) and Schrodinger's cat. You really don't know the outcome until you turn around and see it for yourself

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    sorry for the triple post

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    I'd of pitched Perez on Sunday and saved Darvish tbh. The fact of the matter was Angles < Rays and you knew the Rays were gonna have their best at the plate for 163.

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    As far as that logic goes, I actually would've saved Darvish for the TB game. Either way you have to win 2 games to get to the playoffs. Why not just put your team in the best position to win both instead of going all out for 1? Who cares if you lose the 1st game instead of losing the 'play in' game? it's not like it's really that big of a difference.

    If you have Darvish vs Vargas and then Perez vs Price, you put yourself in a great position to win the first, but not the second.

    If you have Perez vs Vargas and then Darvish vs Price, you're probably the slight favorite in both.
    Yeah..I see on paper that would be a good scenario...but they were going off the "Win Now" scenario, I assume. I can't blame them either way. And they're damned if they do, and damned if they don't.

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    To play Devil's Advocate of my own post, what if you did the whole Perez vs Vargas route, lost that gamble, and then David Price ends up burning to death in a grease fire the next day meaning that TB has to call up an emergency starter in which you would have had a great shot to win anyway but you already lost so you lost your chance. Then you'd also be kicking yourself. It's like the quantum mechanics of dual-wave particality (sp?) and Schrodinger's cat. You really don't know the outcome until you turn around and see it for yourself
    wut did i just read?

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