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jagfan logic:
ugh, mjd can't carry our asses despite our run blocking and passing game. trade his bum ass out!
What stupid logic. Proves my point.He led the league in rushing with a ty line.
ugh, mjd can't carry our asses despite our run blocking and passing game. trade his bum ass out!
i just cant believe there are still some baguar fans around lol.
the ravens are gonna run out of cap space
jags and panthers never should have been added to the league tbh
sorry but that's just stupid.He led the league in rushing with a ty line.
Wow, I go to sleep early one night, and look what happens.Jags fans: Is Monroe a good player? I've heard good things about him, but you never know.
I like the trade if he's even decent, as the Ravens should get four compensatory picks, which will replenish those traded picks. It's better than picking a bunch of players who won't make the team.
Ends up being a fourth- and a fifth-round pick next year. Great haul if the team can re-sign him, but kinda expensive for a rental. Hopefully, they can trade McKinnie for a pick.
i know you've asked for jag fan opinions, but i can share. he's known to be better in pass protection than in the run game. he is built sort of small, but he's agile. still average in the run game, not good not bad, but but shines in pass protection.Wow, I go to sleep early one night, and look what happens.
I like the trade if he's even decent, as the Ravens should get four compensatory picks, which will replenish those traded picks. It's better than picking a bunch of players who won't make the team.
monroe is a top 10 lt and is only 26 years old. and we only got 3rd day picks, we got rapedWow, I go to sleep early one night, and look what happens.
I like the trade if he's even decent, as the Ravens should get four compensatory picks, which will replenish those traded picks. It's better than picking a bunch of players who won't make the team.. tanking, the jags are doing it right
Thanks to both of you. One thing I've heard is that he's actually the only Jags lineman who's been able to adapt to the team's new zone-blocking scheme (which they are currently abandoning). The Ravens have had their own problems adapting to it, so perhaps is a move to help in the run game as well.
My concern now is the contract. He didn't get re-signed in Jacksonville for one of three reasons (or a combination): He didn't want to stay with them; the team wanted Joeckel to take over and felt Monroe was not suited on the right; or he was too expensive. I'm hoping it's not the latter one. Baltimore doesn't have the money to give him a big deal next year.
Still, I think Ozzie is content to not win a Super Bowl this season, so I don't think he'd make a big trade like this unless he thought it was good long-term value. They'll probably get something done with Monroe soon.
^yup. monroe is made to zone block because he's highly athletic, and not exactly a bulldozer, which is the typical lineman zone blocking teams are looking for. still, it might be coming off that way, but he's not a bad run blocker.
Holy crap! The Jags picked up most of Monroe's salary. The Ravens just have to pay him the minimum, which means they can fit him under the cap. This is a good deal even if they can't keep him now.
Put Holden_Caulfield on suicide watch
Last edited by spurraider21; 10-02-2013 at 10:20 PM.
Apparently, the Jags weren't even shopping him. Ozzie just called and made the offer. That's about as badass as it gets for a GM.
"Give us your starting left tackle for two mid-round picks."
"All right, give us your first."
"How about a fourth and a fifth, and you pick up the tab?"
"Yessir."
no ing way? wow, the steelers were looking for an LT also and we couldnt get a bidding war started? this trade just keeps getting worse
The Steelers didn't have a lot of picks to give up this draft. I doubt they were even willing to meet this cheap price for Monroe. I hear they also got the Cardinals to pay Brown's salary, so they don't have to restructure even more.
Thanks to both of you
My concern now is the contract. He didn't get re-signed in Jacksonville for one of three reasons (or a combination): He didn't want to stay with them; the team wanted Joeckel to take over and felt Monroe was not suited on the right; or he was too expensive. I'm hoping it's not the latter one. Baltimore doesn't have the money to give him a big deal next year.
Still, I think Ozzie is content to not win a Super Bowl this season, so I don't think he'd make a big trade like this unless he thought it was good long-term value. They'll probably get something done with Monroe soon.
You've heard wrong then because that is the exact opposite of the truth. Monroe while a decent pass blocker was not willing or unable to adapt to the zone blocking. That is coming from the beat writers. Luke Joeckel is actually willing and is going back to his natural position. The fact is that the Jags line is terrible and that is why the scheme inst working. Because the players they have don't fit. Maybe Monroe will shine with the Ravens. I hope he does because he's always been a nice guy. He never ed and complained and always toted the company line.
Look at the scenario, Pay the guy top 5 money when he doesn't fit your system or trade for multiple picks and recoup some value instead of nothing. People seem to think that teams are just lining up to give away 1st day picks. Whatever your perceived value it doesn't matter. They got something instead of pay a guy that they clearly did not want to keep. Why is that so ing hard to understand. The Jags were not resigning this guy.
We will give you cousins for a 2nd
you got peanuts for one of the better pass blockers in the league. you were better off dealing him on draft day, where his value would have been higher. instead you sat on him, now you gave him away for mid-late picks, are paying a vast majority of his salary this year, and it turns out the Steelers were also looking to improve their pass protection. you weren't even shopping him, someone just said lemme have that good pass blocker for some mid-late picks.
Hey dude maybe your right. But maybe they did try. Can you prove that Dave Caldwell didn't try to shop him knowing damn well he was going to draft Luke at the same position. I don't think you can prove that. More power to you if you can. All your talking is out your anus. Because Dave Caldwell said it him self that they were casually talking back and forth about it. Then it made sense to make the deal because Baltimore had picks and could afford to make the deal. Does that sound like a GM who was just sitting on his ass and gave away a player because someone duped him? He was actively shopping him dude.
here are the quotes:
Caldwell said the Ravens trade came about quickly, with casual conversations with Baltimore turning into a trade opportunity because Baltimore had draft picks available. The Ravens expect to get multiple mid-to-late-round selections as compensatory selections this offseason.
“Everything kind of aligned perfectly,” Caldwell said. “He was going to a good spot. They were getting a good player in Eugene, and it’s really going to help us in the future.
“They’re in a different state than a lot of teams. They have a good football team and a lot of draft picks this year. They’re able to afford to do that. I think it was a very fair offer from them.”
The Jaguars now have 10 selections in the 2014 NFL Draft – one each in the first, second and third rounds, two in the fourth round, three in the fifth round, one in the sixth round and one in the seventh round. The Jaguars received a fourth- and fifth-round selection in the Monroe trade and a fifth-rounder for former wide receiver Mike Thomas.
“When you make a commitment to build through the draft, having as many picks as possible is a key,” Caldwell said. “It gives you a lot more flexibility in terms of what you can do in terms of trading up and back.”
Hey dumb , try to keep up. Their acquiring picks. not giving them away.
you got peanuts for a good left tackle.
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