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  1. #376
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    Trust me my intentions are not to TRoll or disrupt any topic I'm just merely posting the facts as I see them.

    Since I support Alternative Design I can't really join in on the conversation.
    sup mouse.

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    Have you considered that you may have to get through a lot of false pride, or a lot of preconceived notions, or even lots of prior programming?
    You are just going to have to knuckle down and have a lot more patience, tolerance, and forgiveness if your message is ever going to get through. You are going to have to be more Christ like and resist judging someone harshly just because they might not understand your point or opinion.
    After reading most of the posts, what I see is your frustration, or perplexity, getting the best of you and thus spoiling you getting your view out.
    Obviously your view is wanted, but the putting people down is not.
    No one likes being belittled just because they may disagree, or do not understand. Just put yourself in their shoes and look at it.
    You've got some awesome news to share. Be as Christ like as you can be and share it. You are not talking to the Pharisees here, you are talking to Spurs Talk fans, some with lots of knowledge and some with very little.
    Yes, I do as I had to get through that stuff myself. Nothing I say will get through. The only reason God penetrated my skull was through severe suffering on a deep personal and professional level that began to open my eyes....

    I have done this over and over with many. Being nice or being harsh makes no difference. God only allows a very few to see.


    You err not KNOWING the scriptures. - Matt 22:29

    That was me. But no longer, at least as far as God allows...

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    Uh huh. I question you and show zero deference and you start with the 'moron' and other childish antics. You respond to every post I make to you with obvious anger. You are a robot in this regards.

    Now we can talk about whether or not anger is justified etc. I myself believe that the stoicism that current internet culture seems to find virtue in is meaningless but that is besides the point. You are only able to behave when people are actively trying to mollify you. That is yet another basis for axis-1.

    You started out with condescension, not deference, so you get the sword. Humble yourself and ask serious questions or stfu and butt out of the discussion as you contribute nothing.

    You use language and assertions that have no basis. People like you think there are "good" words and "bad" words when all are just words... Silly in the extreme.

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    You started out with condescension, not deference, so you get the sword. Humble yourself and ask serious questions or stfu and butt out of the discussion as you contribute nothing.

    You use language and assertions that have no basis. People like you think there are "good" words and "bad" words when all are just words... Silly in the extreme.
    I never qualified any semantics but that is besides the point. Have you ever been diagnosed with an axis-1 disorder?

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    Just watching you guys go at it and reminding myself why AD is the best way to explain us being on this earth.

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    Bull . You want to make overbearing statements that you are unable to support or articulate and then play this martyr bull when you are called on it.

    When pressed on anything you resort to calling the individual a moron, say that you could explain it then don't, claim that someone else can explain it etc. What you never do is articulate a logical response.

    I have supported everything I have said. Call all the bull you want. Doesn't detract an iota from the truth I have written.

    It is pointless to explain the complex, veiled, invisible things until you accept the plain, obvious, and visible things. What I have shared here is Pre-K and K level and you can't grasp even one tiny sliver of it.

    "If you do not believe me when I show you the earthly/visible things, how will you believe the Heavenly/invisible things?" John 3:12

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    I never qualified any semantics but that is besides the point. Have you ever been diagnosed with an axis-1 disorder?
    You dont qualify semantics directly, but you qualify other things and attribute to them labels you don't even comprehend.

    Have you ever been diagnosed with Internet Tool Troll Disorder, Axis Moronicus Maximus?


    You definitely have a comprehension disorder so that would qualify as Axis 1. Or as we say in Texas, "He is ate up with the dumbass."

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    You dont qualify semantics directly, but you qualify other things and attribute to them labels you don't even comprehend.

    Have you ever been diagnosed with Internet Tool Troll Disorder, Axis Moronicus Maximus?


    You definitely have a comprehension disorder so that would qualify as Axis 1. Or as we say in Texas, "He is ate up with the dumbass."
    You remind me of scientologists that is for sure. Things I do not understand? You really going back to that tactic? Your right, I use words that mean things to express myself. Welcome to the concept of language. At least I am direct and not intending to mislead by a veil of bull , unsubstantiated assertions, and outright lies.

    I have not been diagnosed by any such thing. Now you are avoiding the question. That is telling. In fairness, i was wrong in saying axis 1. I am being told that what I am attributing to you is an axis 2 disorder. Sorry about that.

    I stand by that though. An axis-2 disorder is attributable to people that demonstrate particular antisocial behavior. We went through this before but I don't just pretend an argument was already made and front on it like you do so lets revisit how you in particular fit.

    1) overimportance of self - you equate yourself to John, Jesus, and God on the regular
    2) exaggeration of authority - you lie about knowing astronauts, Hawking and being a sci-fi author so as to seem more credible. you have talked about how god grants you thre right to judge. you act as if your interpretation is the only valid one.
    3) expecting constant praise - when xmas started trying to mollify you by saying nice things about you, you settled down, the moment i start questioning you revert right back to form
    4) unrealistic expectations on treatment by others - if people do not agree with you or kiss your ass then you behave as you do. we also can go back to your comparison of treatment to that of biblical martyrs
    5) fantasizing about power and success - sci-fi book club with astronauts and stephen hawking.

    Here is a whole list http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/nar...CTION=symptoms

    Now anyone can read and judge for themselves.

    See how that is much more compelling then making up, fronting it and then doing nothing whatsoever to support your position? I am not kidding, I really do think you have a mental disorder.

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    One of you two are going to have to be the bigger man and resist from mud slinging.
    Granted we are at The Club and should expect the worst.

    Fuzzy, has it gone beyond the point of no return, and now you can only sling mud? I hope not because I enjoyed reading your views.

    Skull, is it more important to sling mud, or to get your news to the few? I hope you will tell us what you have learned.

    You both have made some very valid points when you were not preoccupied with bashing. I've been there, done that, it isn't easy to extricate yourself from it when you feel wronged, but if your news is more important than your pride , then you will though. Skull and I have bashed each other to death in the recent past for example.

    Mouse, thanks for the tip about Blake and Stump. Stump was always quick with the humor too, but I have no idea which stump it is. :Lol
    I do know that without humor, even sacrilegious humor is greatly appreciated by me. I don't offend easily.
    Plus it lightens an already deep subject and allows perspective.
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    I am not mindlessly trying to insult him by calling him a moron, idiot, or the like.

    He does display the attributes of what I am describing and it goes a long way towards explaining why he behaves as he does.
    He did claim to be a sci-fi author, know several people that have walked on the moon, and be on speaking terms with Stephen Hawking.

    Now if pointing that out is 'slinging mud' then so be it but I think it's true or not true as depending.

    And what valid points has he really made? He has said all manner of things and I am not saying that they are all wrong but most of what I get out of him is his overbearing megalomania. I find discussing abnormal psychology and how his behavior correlates getting closer to the root of things than 'arguing' with him.

    Do you not think he fits many of the traits that I have listed to a ing tee? I am just hoping that he is trolling.

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    I am not mindlessly trying to insult him by calling him a moron, idiot, or the like.

    He does display the attributes of what I am describing and it goes a long way towards explaining why he behaves as he does.
    He did claim to be a sci-fi author, know several people that have walked on the moon, and be on speaking terms with Stephen Hawking.

    Now if pointing that out is 'slinging mud' then so be it but I think it's true or not true as depending.

    And what valid points has he really made? He has said all manner of things and I am not saying that they are all wrong but most of what I get out of him is his overbearing megalomania. I find discussing abnormal psychology and how his behavior correlates getting closer to the root of things than 'arguing' with him.

    Do you not think he fits many of the traits that I have listed to a ing tee? I am just hoping that he is trolling.
    I hope you don't feel I was offending you.
    Yes, many do fit. And I definitely see what you are saying.
    But I am willing to give the benefit of the doubt.
    I also see where skull is easily offended. But most of us are easily offended when it comes to very very personal issues and experiences that we have had especially when our credibility on such personal things is brought into question.
    I am. And I bet you are too.
    No, all I ask is we try to get skull to open up a little and share some of his revelations if he can and if he will.
    Some people just close up and leave. At least he is still here. But he may just close up and that is his choice. Ismael tried to get him to open up too, but I don't think he read that.
    I wish he would just start at the beginning, and allow us to make up our own minds.
    That is what I did.
    I didn't have to post anything or answer any questions, especially when I had my doubts that any one would understand, or that they would think I was way out in left field somewhere, but I shared anyway, and come what may.

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    The guy obviously doesn't know my professional background--military and civilian--education, current trade and responsibilities, nor the social circles I orbit within (or have orbited in my past). That's why he laughs at the notion that I shake hands with entertainers, world leaders from American Presidents to Saudi Royalty, sports icons, religious leaders of supposed high repute, astronauts, engineers, members of the Mars Rover Mission, writers, you name it. He calls that a mental disorder but I assure you, lifting Stephen Hawking into a G450 is not delusion--it is hard work involving dozens of people and I have done it repeatedly.

    So what?

    I hold an Apostle in higher esteem than any of the Presidents I have made laugh or shaken hands with.

    But the picture on my desk from one of my moonwalker friends is real, as is the hardcover publisher copy of my first novel, neither of which matter. Both will be dust and "there will be no remembrance" (Eccl 1).
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    I am offended period. Ease is not a factor.

    When Blake asked a serious question I took him seriously.

    I will not withhold contempt when a modern day Pharisee mocks me or my Teacher, nor do I have to.

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    The guy obviously doesn't know my professional background--military and civilian--education, current trade and responsibilities, nor the social circles I orbit within (or have orbited in my past). That's why he laughs at the notion that I shake hands with entertainers, world leaders from American Presidents to Saudi Royalty, sports icons, religious leaders of supposed high repute, astronauts, engineers, members of the Mars Rover Mission, writers, you name it. He calls that a mental disorder but I assure you, lifting Stephen Hawking into a G450 is not delusion--it is hard work involving dozens of people and I have done it repeatedly.

    So what?

    I hold an Apostle in higher esteem than any of the Presidents I have made laugh or shaken hands with.

    But the picture on my desk from one of my moonwalker friends is real, as is the hardcover publisher copy of my first novel, neither of which matter. Both will be dust and "there will be no remembrance" (Eccl 1).
    So does anyone believe him? I don't.

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    When Blake asked a serious question I took him seriously.
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    Did you record the time and date so you can continue that conversation with same person using the Blake name in another cubicle?


    Trust me it makes the debate so much easier.

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    I am offended period. Ease is not a factor.

    When Blake asked a serious question I took him seriously.

    I will not withhold contempt when a modern day Pharisee mocks me or my Teacher, nor do I have to.
    Well, it turns out that Blake, and chump too, are actually more than one person using the same name, according to Mouse.
    But if you don't want to share, far be it from me to press you on it.
    I was sincerely interested. I wanted to see if we shared much the same or similar viewpoints is all.
    You read mine. I'm sure you didn't agree with everything I wrote.
    I just wanted to see if we shared any commonalities. I suspected that you had touched into metaphysics as had I.
    We all have egos we have to deal with, and pride. None of us are immune.
    But honestly, fuzzy, is no Pharisee, not even close. He is just another average Joe like you and I.
    And I could read his frustration in trying to understand what you were saying and why you were saying it.

    Right now I could use a stiff drink! Or a really good laugh. Mouse? Where are you?

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    Did you record the time and date so you can continue that conversation with same person using the Blake name in another cubicle?


    Trust me it makes the debate so much easier.

    I hear ya. I saw your post on that elsewhere. Pretty funny stuff. It must have been Blake #47.

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    So does anyone believe him? I don't.
    You don't believe Christ either and He has way more horsepower than I do.

    Oh, and guess what? I don't give a flip in either case.

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    how about a blast from the past....


    http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/show...t=22979&page=4

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    Chill out guys, seriously.

    Skull, take us to lesson one, if you will.

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    Well, it turns out that Blake, and chump too, are actually more than one person using the same name, according to Mouse.
    But if you don't want to share, far be it from me to press you on it.
    I was sincerely interested. I wanted to see if we shared much the same or similar viewpoints is all.
    You read mine. I'm sure you didn't agree with everything I wrote.
    I just wanted to see if we shared any commonalities. I suspected that you had touched into metaphysics as had I.
    We all have egos we have to deal with, and pride. None of us are immune.
    But honestly, fuzzy, is no Pharisee, not even close. He is just another average Joe like you and I.
    And I could read his frustration in trying to understand what you were saying and why you were saying it.

    Right now I could use a stiff drink! Or a really good laugh. Mouse? Where are you?

    I have no ego.

    I am just right/correct. And in the off chance I am wrong, I can't do a thing about it because God wants it that way for His purposes. I take no credit for what I know. I am just one of the few God picked. Taking credit for this is like taking credit for winning the lottery.

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    Shill out guys, seriously.

    Skull, take us to lesson one, if you will.
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    I have no ego.

    I am just right/correct. And in the off chance I am wrong, I can't do a thing about it because God wants it that way for His purposes. I take no credit for what I know. I am just one of the few God picked. Taking credit for this is like taking credit for winning the lottery.
    Not interested in establishing your credentials.
    Rather what is it that you know?
    Will you share?

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    You don't believe Christ either and He has way more horsepower than I do.

    Oh, and guess what? I don't give a flip in either case.
    More hubris. Note is was not addressing you. Whether you 'care' is besides the point other than the last symptom is described as

    Appearing as tough-minded or unemotional
    You can make baseless claim after baseless claim. I have seen no indication that anyone gives it credence. I certainly do not. Just like everything else, you do nothing to support your claims. You are empty and without meaning beyond so much wind.

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    At this point, I am pretty sure skull won't share what he knows.
    That is ok.
    Not everyone is willing to share what they know in forums like this.
    It just sets them up for ridicule.
    And that is more than some are willing to bear, or bare, no pun intended.
    Anyway, glad I was able to share what I've learned over the years, for what it is worth.
    Hope it helps.

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