pretty certain jordan wont give 2 s
Kobe should be passing MJ up in all-time scoring this season![]()
You obviously don't know Air Juandice![]()
Jordan: 15 seasons (counting the season he only played 18 games and his return season in which he played 17 games), 1072 games played, 41,000 minutes played, 49% FG
Kobe: 17 seasons (and counting), 1239 games played, 45,390 minutes played, 45% FG
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fail @saying I have a /thread....
Kobe played with Shaq and still out-edged MJ...besides longevity is also good proof you're a better player...
the only thing that article is missing next to MJ's name is an asterisk that reads *** Did not play with Shaq*** so stats are inflated
Tammy ain't no where near this list...playas only club
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So, what you're saying is that MJ won more les despite him not having a top 10-allt-time player as a teammate? Got it.
MJ won more les because he had 2 all time 50 players on his squad....Kobe won 3 with 1 and 2 with None
So, you turned this thread into a Tim Duncan thread because I owned your white ass?
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kool owning himselfbasically calling kobe a chucker
didn't kobe shoot like 110+ shots in the 2004 Finals while Shaq shot like 80? 38% shooting![]()
Also lmao at this notion that Pippen didn't take shots or something. He wasn't Bruce Bowen![]()
Fact check: Pippen and Rodman are both all-time 50....and 2 of the best defensive players in the history of the game...
Shaq , Gasol, and Bynum played no defense...only Shaq is a top 50 player and since Kobe is top 10 himself then you can make the argument that by virtue of playing with himself Kobe played with 2 top 10 players in History
Pippen ate when MJ told him to...Kobe ate when he wanted to...pretty big difference
Please, Pippen is nowhere near top 20 all-time, Shaq is a top 10 all-time player, considered the most dominant Center of all time. Pippen's just a sidekick and Rodman's...well Rodman.
MJ's the GOAT finals performer and never lost in the Finals despite having to do more than Kirby, is more clutch in the playoffs(based on stats) than Kirby and won the FMVP in ALL of his Finals and NEVER was 2nd in PER nor WS in the RS nor playoffs on his team.
Kirby got carried, no one can ever even argue that MJ was carried in any of his Finals runs.
Shaq only averages 2 more FGA's than Pippen when you look at their respective FGAs playing with Kobe and MJ.
puhlease...name me a le MJ won without Pippen...and then while you're at it name me a le Kobe won without Shaq.... that right there is what we call hard cold facts....it's math...
Kobe without Shaq has a higher win percentage plus 2 rings...MJ doesn't exist without Pippen being a top 50 player...MJ doens't win without Pippen carrying him on defense...
Kirby never led the league in steals, never came close to a DPOY, Phil says MJ was the better leader and defender, when Phil says MJ is better, there's no discussion.
And how many les did Kirby win without having the best big man in the game? 0.
so MJ had less help on offense but was still a more efficient and effective scorer? cool
Ouch.
GTFO with this bull about "how many les did MJ win without Pip?" bull . They played the majority of their careers together and Pip didn't win without MJ, this is like saying "how many rings did Parker win without Duncan" which is re ed since the entirety of his career was with Tim. Before Pippen came to town MJ was torching one of the greatest defensive squads ever for 60+ while Kobe was missing the playoffs without an all-star big man to hold his hand![]()
Plus AH just on yourShaq took shots from Kobe but Pippen didn't from MJ
theory, so try again chimpbrain
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