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    Kyrie gonna surprise the league this year?

    Kyrie?
    Is that Japanese for Kawhi?

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    How'd you know?

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    It will be if he can stay healthy.

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    I'm surprised by how some of you are high on these players.

    Magette's 12-13 PER: 7.9
    Young's 12-13 PER: 7.5

    That's just damn bad. There is a strong possibility that the answer between Maggette and Young will be neither.

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    I'm surprised by how some of you are high on these players.

    Magette's 12-13 PER: 7.9
    Young's 12-13 PER: 7.5

    That's just damn bad. There is a strong possibility that the answer between Maggette and Young will be neither.
    I've said the same thing, Bruno.
    There is a huge possibility the Spurs go into the season with 14 players like they usually do.
    Glad to see someone else agrees with that possibility.

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    I'm surprised by how some of you are high on these players.

    Magette's 12-13 PER: 7.9
    Young's 12-13 PER: 7.5

    That's just damn bad. There is a strong possibility that the answer between Maggette and Young will be neither.
    true. but if their last season numbers were significantly better, they wouldn't be just camp invitees.
    Maggette's per was 14.1 the season before, so there is hope, that he could at least improve to 10-12.
    and Young is one of those defensive players, the PER just doesn't love. like PER hated Bruce, who hardly jumped over 6, even in his best years.

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    true. but if their last season numbers were significantly better, they wouldn't be just camp invitees.
    Maggette's per was 14.1 the season before, so there is hope, that he could at least improve to 10-12.
    and Young is one of those defensive players, the PER just doesn't love. like PER hated Bruce, who hardly jumped over 6, even in his best years.
    I think Young is the one that is the most likely to stick. Regarding Maggette, his decline really looks like age-related. He will soon be 34 and for a player with that kind of play, it starts to be a lot.

    And if both Young and Maggette are bad, Spurs will still have to opportunity to look at players that have been waived by other teams. There will have some good players among them.

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    He's only an inch shorter than Kawhi. Active hands and good position can make up somewhat for lack of height.
    Kawhi

    Height w/o Shoes Height w/shoes Weight Wingspan Standing Reach Body Fat No Step Vert Max Vert Bench Press Lane Agility 3/4 Court Sprint Class Rank
    6' 6" 6' 7" 227 7' 3" 8' 10" 5.4 25.5 32.0 3 11.45 3.15 NA

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    Height w/o Shoes Height w/shoes Weight Wingspan Standing Reach Body Fat No Step Vert Max Vert Bench Press Lane Agility 3/4 Court Sprint Class Rank
    6' 5.25" 6' 6.75" 223 6' 10.75" 8' 9.5" 4.9 27.5 33.0 NA 11.47 3.45 NA

    This is predraft...so...Young numbers are probably worst now, specially his Vert.

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    I think Young is the one that is the most likely to stick. Regarding Maggette, his decline really looks like age-related. He will soon be 34 and for a player with that kind of play, it starts to be a lot.

    And if both Young and Maggette are bad, Spurs will still have to opportunity to look at players that have been waived by other teams. There will have some good players among them.
    yes. as I tried to argue some days ago, I don't even think it's between Young and Maggette. Young is in, he would have to play a very very bad camp, so that they don't keep him. (which I don't see coming, considering his reputation as a hard worker and good guy.). if Maggette surprises and can show he can bounce back from his bad season (yes, his decline is mostly age related, but he really fell off a cliff in Detroit, so maybe there were some more reasons that held him back). in this case I see him in a compe ion with Nando and Mills for the last spot. let's assume the Spurs find a way to get rid of either without just waive them and lose the money. one thing can be said about Maggette: he knows how to get to the line. (even in his desaster year in Detroit he went to the line - per minute - 4 times as often as for example Nando). no other bench player on the Spurs outside Manu comes even close to his numbers. it would just open a tactical option, the Spurs currently don't have and make the Spurs offense more versatile. it's a bit like having Steve Kerr in 2003 as a last resort. Kerr just had to shoot and hit his one or two shots. and Maggette would just be asked to initiate contact and get a foul. (you can't ask this from either Nando or Mills, neither you can ask both to hit a crucial 3)

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    When is the Final Roster set/announced?

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    I'm surprised by how some of you are high on these players.

    Magette's 12-13 PER: 7.9
    Young's 12-13 PER: 7.5

    That's just damn bad. There is a strong possibility that the answer between Maggette and Young will be neither.
    Sam Young had a PER of 13 as a rookie and looked like the guy a lot of Spurs fans wished they could have drafted. He seems to have derailed quite badly, but it's not due to injury or his body breaking down. If there's a team that can reclaim a guy like that, it's the Spurs. We'll find out soon enough if he's just taking a paycheck or if he wants to contribute to a good team.

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    My guess is that Young makes it onto the roster. How long he sticks is anyone's guess.

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    yes. as I tried to argue some days ago, I don't even think it's between Young and Maggette. Young is in, he would have to play a very very bad camp, so that they don't keep him. (which I don't see coming, considering his reputation as a hard worker and good guy.). if Maggette surprises and can show he can bounce back from his bad season (yes, his decline is mostly age related, but he really fell off a cliff in Detroit, so maybe there were some more reasons that held him back). in this case I see him in a compe ion with Nando and Mills for the last spot. let's assume the Spurs find a way to get rid of either without just waive them and lose the money. one thing can be said about Maggette: he knows how to get to the line. (even in his desaster year in Detroit he went to the line - per minute - 4 times as often as for example Nando). no other bench player on the Spurs outside Manu comes even close to his numbers. it would just open a tactical option, the Spurs currently don't have and make the Spurs offense more versatile. it's a bit like having Steve Kerr in 2003 as a last resort. Kerr just had to shoot and hit his one or two shots. and Maggette would just be asked to initiate contact and get a foul. (you can't ask this from either Nando or Mills, neither you can ask both to hit a crucial 3)
    I don't think you can blame Maggette for what happened in Detroit. The Pistons were looking to play their younger guys. He fits in more on a veteran team.

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    Definitely pulling for Maggette to make the team. His post entry passes are amazing!


    ?http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxhJv...ature=youtu.be

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    Definitely pulling for Maggette to make the team. His post entry passes are amazing!


    ?http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxhJv...ature=youtu.be
    Lmao that was horrible.

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    I gotta agree with others that this team is stacked. What a luxury to be looking at players of Mags and Youngs ability for the 15th spot. Spurs fans not excited about this season are straight up spoiled es.
    It's a very sweet notion that you think Young would be a deeper bench player than Nando de Colo. It's almost like hes a real NBA player and everything!

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    Don't care what anybody else thinks, i'm on the Sam Young train!!

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    Maggette is playing better, but I think Young has the best change to make the team.

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    As ace and Bruno say whoever makes that 15th spot is liable to play a much greater role than what a normal 15th player would play.

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    The 15th spot on the roster is strictly injury insurance. I think you need to leave that slot open for unexpected events. No sense in having to cut someone (and pay them off) to make room. If all else fails, there may be younger, more athletic players on the Toros roster that can be brought up and given a shot. That is what the Toros farm club is for.

    So any question about Young or Magette has to be whether they should be in the top 13 players in the rotation, moving a couple of the guys we now have down into the practice squad.

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    I think Diaw's play will have something to do with this decision. If Diaw is more aggressive (as he has shown in international play), scoring off the bench will become less important and Young's stock rises.

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    OT but JaMychal Green was just released by the Clips. I know the Spurs were once interested in him. Maybe nothing there, but that's another route if the Spurs don't keep either Young/Maggette.

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    How come neither players are playing tonight?

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    How come neither players are playing tonight?
    Young is playing. He's a piece of but he's playing.

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    Cut Young now tbh. De Colo too.

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