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Belli will be THAT DUDE to help Ginobili out when he's tanking a series for Los hermanos de Cuba de la revolución.
And he did average 20ppg one season on 53% from the field (something Kobe could never do). For a guard that's pretty impressive.
Belli will be THAT DUDE to help Ginobili out when he's tanking a series for Los hermanos de Cuba de la revolución.
Do you not think if Ginobili was on a sorry team, he wouldn't average 19/5? He's the third option here and barely peaks 25 mins. Stacks averaged 20 in a Charlotte tool
Ginobili right now would not average 19 points on any team in the NBA. He wouldn't even be able to play enough mpg to average 19. And Charlotte was the absolute worst team in the league, there is a difference between ty treadmill team contending for an 8th seed and absolute trash team tanking for the lowest possible record.
We just have to disagree because I think you are 100% wrong
That's fine, you're en led to do so. This is all based off last season though, we'll see how they play in 2014. Like I said, I would love for Manu to prove everyone wrong. He was my favorite player growing up and it's sad to see him breaking down tbh
Manu just isn't shooting much at all, period. Thinking he's going to drop 20 on a consistent basis is silly simply because he's not even looking to score much. His role is much more of a playmaker, reflected on being the #2 assist leader for the Spurs last season (by a wide margin). The Spurs biggest hurdle isn't having guys that can finish plays, it's that they have very few creators. Guys like Bonner, Green, Splitter, Diaw and even up to an extent, Kawhi, need somebody to set the table for them.
That's why guys like Belli or Manu don't need to score a lot, they just need to make sure everyone else is getting a clean look.
The ESPN rank is ridiculous, because it's based on a consensus from too many people. Barnes being ranked 10 spots higher than Ginobili tells you everything you need to know about the credibility of this. If you're looking for a credible one, check out the Point Forward's, at Sports Illustrated.
In general, people are jumping the gun on Ginobili. Players with that long a track record of success deserve the benefit of the doubt. Spurs fans should know this as well as anyone, given Duncan's re-emergence in the past year and a half. This is the season we'll get a better idea of his current standing both on the Spurs and in the league. I wouldn't be shocked to see a semi-bounce back season.
Yeah passing is nice but we needed his offense in the Finals and he wasn't aggressive enough.
I don't think he wasn't aggressive enough. I think, if anything, he was too aggressive (at times in a bad, ill advised way).
In the Finals we needed a lot of offense from a bunch of guys... Tiago, Neal, etc.. Green made up for a lot of it, but eventually, that well was going to dry up.
Manu is a floor general now. His contribution will come more in the from drawing people and finding open teammates than volume scoring.
But in general, Manu just didn't have a good, consistent season. Time will tell if that's the new normal or not.
If Manu played enough minutes to score 19 a game he wouldn't stay healthy enough to complete even half the games in a season.
Let me guess, all of you who are greatly offended are the types who will be posting trade ideas here later this season around the deadline. Quality homer stuff like "Baynes and a 2015 second for Dirk", or "De Colo and the rights to Sanikidze for Paul George".
And you where one of the culprits. I'm glad to see you've stuck to your word on ignoring obvious troll jobs. Saves bandwidth.
Not when they've been as mediocre as Manu has been the past two years. He's been in a sharp decline ever since the 2011 season.
Duncan dedicates himself to the Spurs and ONLY the Spurs while Manu's top priority, in recent years, has been Argentina. Even making this comparison is hilarious since Manu never has been and never will be on Duncan's tier as a player. It's not surprising for someone of TD's calibre to have a comeback season considering his style of play doesn't rely on speed/athleticism. Ginobili's decline coincides with his athletic decline. Slashers like him and Wade age faster than wing players with good fundamental skills like Allen/Pierce/Kobe/etc.
I wouldn't be shocked to see him miss most of the season...again. Then come back just in time to stink it up in the playoffs.
Deservedly so. He choked hard in the playoffs. He should be 200+
It will always be on all of us as Fans! Up there or above .4 or the Manu foul on Dirk. Those are top three to me, ones I won't forget. I will remember good times though and the les, hopefully another one to add to it this year.
Let's guess the spurs big 3 rank :
Kawhi : 35
Timmy : 9
Tony : 8
Manu ed up in the Finals, ranking him 86th is being generous.
And you where one of the culprits. I'm glad to see you've stuck to your word on ignoring obvious troll jobs. Saves bandwidth.
How do you come to this conclusion.
I wasn't whining or trolling, I was trying to get rid of those bandwagon characters.
Unfortunately I was feeding them.
Paul Pierce, Joe Johnson and KG are in the top 50. Is this a fking joke?
I still haven't seen a player that Ginobili is not better than right now. And we are approaching the top 40
They are on a media darling team now, watch the hype they get all year long as the next superteam.
The ass-kissing will be hard to watch.
We had it for years with certain teams and most recently the Heat, now you will hear this crap all year long about them as well. The good thing is only one will make it out of the East so it's not our problem.
I'm going with:
Kawhi 38
Tim 9
Tony 5
A Manu is butthurt that his God tarnished his reputation because of Game 6.
Put this in your head: MANU PLAYED HORRIBLE IN THE NBA FINALS! MANU WAS TERRIBLE ALL OF LAST YEAR. HE DOESN'T DESERVE ANY RESPECT FOR THIS UPCOMING SEASON. IF MANU CEASED TO EXIST DURING THE NBA FINALS, THE SPURS MORE THAN LIKELY ARE THE 2013 NBA CHAMPIONS.
He will have to prove us doubters wrong this upcoming season and try to repair the damage he has done.
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