Is there a Bible/ New Testament expert in the house?

[Blake]

Blake: "As you can see from my resume -12 years of Christian school Bible classes, a couple of years of seminary. Lol even took a Bible as Literature class at Texas Tech for an easy A.

I am a humble, respectful & courteous human being - because I was taught really well - so - when can I get to the NEXT life so I can continue this Christ-like behavior"

I'm not Christ like at all. I'm also not claiming to know the truth like both you and skull are.

but keep making it about me instead of the topic.

smh unintelligent.

[silverblk mystix]

Skull is the one claiming he's got the Bible figured out. I want to know what his prize will be.

Damn you are unintelligent........and melting down right on schedule.

Well, I have an excuse - I didn't waste 15 years of my life being trained to be a blind hater - and you are displaying all your training every day here.

Nice job!

You represent well!

[xmas1997]

I'm not. This is the same argument over and over and over. It is a waste of time arguing with carnal beasts.

That is easy, arguing, I mean.
What is not so easy but much preferable is to not argue at all.
Do not be so consumed that anyone believes you or disbelievers you. It is a yoke, a burden that is not needed.
All it takes is stop arguing.
Say what you feel needs to be said and let it stand on it's own.
You do not have to prove anything to anyone and vice versa.
It is what it is.
And you are definitely right IMHO that the deeper truths are for the "few", but if they are known they are not to be gloated about. They are too precious for that sort of motivation.
Just remember that your particular path does not have to be anybody elses' path.
And their path may be just as valid.
In the end it is all one truth.

[Skull-1]

Your unbroken scripture says the complete opposite. Why are you scared to share?

Really, now? Well teach us, Rabbi.

I can't research your opinion on the after life, idiot.

Well, IDIOT, if I am aligned with scripture and you are a master at it, then you should be able to tell me what I believe--or should believe. Let's go .

[Skull-1]

Blake: "As you can see from my resume -12 years of Christian school Bible classes, a couple of years of seminary. Lol even took a Bible as Literature class at Texas Tech for an easy A.

I am a humble, respectful & courteous human being - because I was taught really well - so - when can I get to the NEXT life so I can continue this Christ-like behavior"

Finally some humor in this thread--that points out the guy's blatant baggery, to boot.

[Skull-1]

Well, I have an excuse - I didn't waste 15 years of my life being trained to be a blind hater - and you are displaying all your training every day here.

Nice job!

You represent well!

Looks like flake learned a new phrase: Melting down. Parrots it in every post.

[Skull-1]

That is easy, arguing, I mean.
What is not so easy but much preferable is to not argue at all.
Do not be so consumed that anyone believes you or disbelievers you. It is a yoke, a burden that is not needed.
All it takes is stop arguing.
Say what you feel needs to be said and let it stand on it's own.
You do not have to prove anything to anyone and vice versa.
It is what it is.
And you are definitely right IMHO that the deeper truths are for the "few", but if they are known they are not to be gloated about. They are too precious for that sort of motivation.
Just remember that your particular path does not have to be anybody elses' path.
And their path may be just as valid.
In the end it is all one truth.

I am hardly gloating. I did not arrive at this truth on my own power. As I have said before, it would be like bragging over winning the lottery.

[Skull-1]

Skull is the one claiming he's got the Bible figured out.

Not entirely. But I have some of the major aspects down. God is still revealing things in His way and in His time.

[RD2191]

Blake what's your beef with God? It's not his fault your wife was porking the milk man.

[DMC]

God believers = liars

God disbelievers = pigeons

If you want a debate on theism vs atheism, you'll need to find other venues. This is probably the same fat fuzzy headed got talking to himself over and over par per etc...

[Skull-1]

God believers = liars

God disbelievers = pigeons

If you want a debate on theism vs atheism, you'll need to find other venues. This is probably the same fat fuzzy headed got talking to himself over and over par per etc...

I will bite. Why am I liar because I believe in God?

[TE]

God believers = liars

God disbelievers = pigeons

If you want a debate on theism vs atheism, you'll need to find other venues. This is probably the same fat fuzzy headed got talking to himself over and over par per etc...

tbh

I don't know why people go back and forth over this topic. It's a waste of time and bandwidth.

You either have faith or not, for whatever reason.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Paul wrote half the Epistles before Peter even wrote one book. How about *YOU* read it and try again, jerkoff. Paul was the one who shook Peter back to sanity. TRY AGAIN you ignoramous.

The Bible is perfectly consistent. We have already explained the color issue in multiple ways. End of day it does NOT matter. People can perceive a COLOR differently, too, just as my two eyes do not see every color the same. The spiritual truth behind it is what matters. I have already nuked the color argument. Pick something else, jerkoff, or just keep ignoring the truth that I have slapped you both with quite thoroughly.

LMAO at some moron straining over hues on a robe. Pathetic that this is the best you've got, you carnal, inspid, beast.

I said they didn't see eye to eye. I never made any temporal claims.

Paul and Peter clearly did not see eye to eye. I am glad that you choose the one that wasn't learning from Jesus for 4 years but instead the guy that according to an anonymous source saw Jesus in a 'vision.' Cretins always lie, huh?

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I will bite. Why am I liar because I believe in God?

You're naive because of that. I would say that you are a liar because you claim to know astronauts, Saudi royals and Stephen Hawking personally and that you are a published sci-fi author.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Constantine was a minor figure. The history of the church is man made, just as you claim the Scriptures are, yet you give it unflinching validity. Sorry. Not buying your "logical argument technique" there, big shot.

The Biblical cannon wound up as prophesied in the "Old Testament" (not my term). It took CENTURIES, not just one stupid council that wound up not accomplishing a whole lot. It was already fairly well codified before Constantine was even born.

You stick with your stupid belief that a man-made, fragmentary, completely biased history is infallible. Go right ahead with that. Let Dr. Phil know how that works out for ya.

So the guy that converted the Roman empire to Christianity and commissioned a central dogma for the faith is insignificant. He prompted the movement and paid church leaders. Now the council of Nice didn't accomplish much? I guess the first attempts for a singular centralized canon as well as several major points of theology which remain nearly 2000 years later don't matter..... the texts that you keep citing from that time don't matter. Like I have said in the past you wouldn't know logical consistency if it punched you in the face.

And tell a rabbi that the new testament was 'prophesised.'

And how the do you get that I think it's infallible? I know it took centuries, youre the one that has no interest in what actually happened in those centuries. You just gloss it over with 'accident of man and intent of God' bull which is straight out of middle century tap dancing about free will.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Well, I bet there are a lot of people that would LOVE to punch you in the face. No question.

Paul couldn't possibly, that's correct. Paul was consistent with Christ down the line.


We "pick and choose" according to the RULES OF SCRIPTURE.

Jesus defied Herod and the temple leaders of the time. Paul said you should obey authority because they were placed there by God. Jesus did not think that government figure was there by God although the same Roman authority Paul is lauding was governing.

Plese show me the list of rules of scripture. You are so full of it is sickening.

[Skull-1]

I said they didn't see eye to eye. I never made any temporal claims.

Paul and Peter clearly did not see eye to eye. I am glad that you choose the one that wasn't learning from Jesus for 4 years but instead the guy that according to an anonymous source saw Jesus in a 'vision.' Cretins always lie, huh?

They did not see eye to eye early in their relationship because Peter had backslid, re . And Peter came back around with Paul's help. Keep up, dipsh*t.

[Skull-1]

You're naive because of that. I would say that you are a liar because you claim to know astronauts, Saudi royals and Stephen Hawking personally and that you are a published sci-fi author.

You would say that and you would be wrong. But I don't give a sh*t about you or what you think so please forgive me for not crying a river over what you do or don't think of my factual claims. As for being naïve, I would say that fits you like a glove. And you are a hypocrite to boot with your man love for fallible human history, using same in a futile effort to disprove the remarkable word of God--which has not only withstood centuries of idiots like you, but prophesied of it all long before you were a mistaken thought in your parents' minds.

[Skull-1]

Jesus defied Herod and the temple leaders of the time. Paul said you should obey authority because they were placed there by God. Jesus did not think that government figure was there by God although the same Roman authority Paul is lauding was governing.

Plese show me the list of rules of scripture. You are so full of it is sickening.

PAUL SAID TO *OBEY* *HIGHER* AUTHORITIES. NOT lower authorities. Not man-made authorities. And NEVER are we to obey an unrighteous anything. "We must obey God over any human authority." Did you miss that passage, face? Give it up. Your goose is cooked.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

They did not see eye to eye early in their relationship because Peter had backslid, re . And Peter came back around with Paul's help. Keep up, dipsh*t.

backslid. Uh huh. they had different visions. Please show me the passage where Peter capitulated.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

You would say that and you would be wrong. But I don't give a sh*t about you or what you think so please forgive me for not crying a river over what you do or don't think of my factual claims. As for being naïve, I would say that fits you like a glove. And you are a hypocrite to boot with your man love for fallible human history, using same in a futile effort to disprove the remarkable word of Go--which has not only withstood centuries of idiots like you, but prophesied of it all long before you were a mistaken thought in your parents' minds.

Provide one shread of evidence.

[Skull-1]

So the guy that converted the Roman empire to Christianity and commissioned a central dogma for the faith is insignificant. He prompted the movement and paid church leaders. Now the council of Nice didn't accomplish much? I guess the first attempts for a singular centralized canonas well as several major points of theology which remain nearly 2000 years later don't matter..... the texts that you keep citing from that time don't matter. Like I have said in the past you wouldn't know logical consistency if it punched you in the face.

And tell a rabbi that the new testament was 'prophesised.'

And how the do you get that I think it's infallible? I know it took centuries, youre the one that has no interest in what actually happened in those centuries. You just gloss it over with 'accident of man and intent of God' bull which is straight out of middle century tap dancing about free will.

We have will but it is not free. I won't even try to go into that with you because you can't even get colors settled in your feeble mind. 1) Christanity is flawed and does not align with scripture. 2) Constantine was just as screwed up as the Catholic Church, any Protestant faith, and all evangelists. 3) The creeds and dictates that came out of that council also do not align with scripture. The are kept now as tradition by the blind. 4) The scriptures that we have are absolutely consistent enough to prove the truth of God's Word. However, even the plain things are lost on people like you, so any supposed inconsistency, while resolvable to the spiritual man, is a complete stumbling block to the carnal. 5) Anything and everything put out by Constantine or any church since, has ZERO credibility or alignment with Christ's Church. 6) Thank you for finally admitting your error and lie. Yes, it was a first attempt, and it failed. Just like everything since has failed with the exception that the Bible canon wound up exactly as prophesied. It is the lampstand in the darkness. Now stfu before you get another mental beatdown.

[Skull-1]

Provide one shread of evidence.

I don't have to. I am not into proving myself to worthless pieces of garbage such as yourself.

[Skull-1]

backslid. Uh huh. they had different visions. Please show me the passage where Peter capitulated.

Read his writings. That should suffice.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

PAUL SAID TO *OBEY* *HIGHER* AUTHORITIES. NOT lower authorities. Not man-made authorities. And NEVER are we to obey an unrighteous anything. "We must obey God over any human authority." Did you miss that passage, face? Give it up. Your goose is cooked.

Paul was writing to the Romans and obey the Romans.

Oh I get that god supposedly trumps all but it is what it is. Jesus and Paul differed on many points. Things like the kingdom of god, baptism, repentance, faith, the nature of what jesus represented, women, etc. This discord has been a central issue of dispute in theology for a thousand years.

We all know that you think yours is the only interpretation but to dismiss the schism is intellectually dishonest.