Evidence For God - Answers for Atheists and Agnostics

[silverblk mystix]

Actually I believe we are one and the same with God, but like you and I discussed earlier we get in the way of realizing it.
The subtraction rather than addition may be our best hope of not repeating this vicious cycle.
But to rationalize it may not allow us to gain the sought after result, because it puts right back into preconceived notions again.
It may well be that the only way to truly know truth for the sake of truth alone and not due to any of our baser motivations, may be through the same sort of mystical revelation that converted Paul.
And if that is the case then we may be in for a very long wait.
I sincerely hope I am wrong about that.
I do think we need to be that aware for the sake of the Father, for His love.
But can we ever fully rid or subtract ourselves of ourselves in order to fill ourselves with the truth of God?
it sounds like the rational course of action, but just because it is so rational, doesn't that also mean that it is the wrong course because it presupposes preconceived notions?
We may be making this much harder than it really is too.
There is the parable of the mus seed to consider and the power of faith, the faith of a child that you mentioned earlier.
It all may be just that simple and our conditioning is just making it all harder.
Much to meditate and ponder over.

Just throwing out something to ponder on...


This might be why some - like Aquinas - go silent.

Those who say - they do not know - those who know they do not say.

Maybe when one finally sees - it is something that cannot be put into words or formulas - or conceptualized.

Just silence.

[xmas1997]

True. Plus silence does not draw attention because there is no motivation to make a grandiose spectacle of it or of yourself.

But this is one of the reasons behind my refusal to use scripture to prove anything of what I've said of my own personal experiences.

[Blake]

Those who say - they do not know - those who know they do not say.

Maybe when one finally sees - it is something that cannot be put into words or formulas - or conceptualized.

Just silence.

lol trying to be deep.

Why would anyone selfishly keep truth about the universe to themselves. That makes no sense.

[silverblk mystix]

lol trying to be deep.

Why would anyone selfishly keep truth about the universe to themselves. That makes no sense.

As you see above - adults are enjoying a respectful conversation.

Here you come in with your lol...lol

This all you have to contribute?

[Blake]

As you see above - adults are enjoying a respectful conversation.

Here you come in with your lol...lol

This all you have to contribute?

lol adults

You'll be calling me names shortly, hypocrite.

[silverblk mystix]

lol adults

You'll be calling me names shortly, hypocrite.

You can read the last page and decide if it is something that you could contribute to and share your knowledge - it was a rare occurrence - but it can happen.

Of course - this doesn't seem to be what you are capable of doing for some reason. If you are not in a little ing contest - you don't know how to act.

Your choice. Be happy to discuss like adults.

Be happy to NOT discuss like adults.

[Blake]

....you don't know how to act.

Be happy to NOT discuss like adults.

So you whine about me being mean but you're happy to be mean back.

Damn you're an unintelligent, weak hypocrite.

[silverblk mystix]

So you whine about me being mean but you're happy to be mean back.

Damn you're an unintelligent, weak hypocrite.

yup....right back to this...


glad I didn't waste my time answering or responding to your statement/question regarding silence

[Blake]

yup....right back to this...


glad I didn't waste my time answering or responding to your statement/question regarding silence

Glad you spent your time whining about me instead of proving your claim of truth.

You're stupid.

[silverblk mystix]

Glad you spent your time whining about me instead of proving your claim of truth.

You're stupid.

Yet, I am always able to reduce you to an angry name caller - too easy.

[mouse]

silverblk mystix makes greats points but the truth is he is not new to ST and surely he must know by now Blake is going to be Blake.

Depending ob course which Blake is in the cubicle at the government leased warehouse these paid shills are employed at when your talking to him.

With that said for any of you that forgot what the original topic is....


Evidence For God - Answers for Atheists and Agnostics

[Blake]

Yet, I am always able to reduce you to an angry name caller - too easy.

nobody believes that.

[Blake]

silverblk mystix makes greats points but the truth is he is not new to ST and surely he must know by now Blake is going to be Blake.

Depending ob course which Blake is in the cubicle at the government leased warehouse these paid shills are employed at when your talking to him.

Why wouldn't i be able to work from home?

With that said for any of you that forgot what the original topic is....


Evidence For God - Answers for Atheists and Agnostics

Haven't forgotten. Still waiting for evidence.

[mouse]

Why wouldn't i be able to work from home?

Your right I left out that factor. I wish you could have said something 3,400 topics earlier.

Haven't forgotten. Still waiting for evidence.

look in the mirror how else did you get here?

[Blake]

look in the mirror how else did you get here?

Not sure. I'm leaning toward random chance.

[xmas1997]

silverblk mystix makes greats points but the truth is he is not new to ST and surely he must know by now Blake is going to be Blake.

Depending ob course which Blake is in the cubicle at the government leased warehouse these paid shills are employed at when your talking to him.

With that said for any of you that forgot what the original topic is....


Evidence For God - Answers for Atheists and Agnostics

I didn't forget.
But I was wondering which Blake I am responding to, #5 or #3 or who?
And which Blake is posting now, the head Blake? How do you tell them apart?
How do you tell the chumps apart too?

[ismael-robert]

It was God's love for Lucifer that He created Him in the first place. It was God's love for him that he gave him a free will/freedom of choice. The article pretty much answers with a real world scenario. You know as a future parent you're going to love your children...you know one of them may rebel and leave the family and never return...you create them anyways.
I don't have a stance on age of the earth...I can see the evidence for an old earth and then creation scientists have flipped all that evidence on its head and shown how we could have a young earth so I'm torn...either position doesn't discredit Genesis cause it could be literal, it could leave out millions of years that lapsed between each day so then it's just an account of the order in which things happened, and it could be metaphorical. A movie I saw called the Genesis Code showed how Genesis and the old earth theory actually agree.

[Blake]

I didn't forget.
But I was wondering which Blake I am responding to, #5 or #3 or who?
And which Blake is posting now, the head Blake? How do you tell them apart?
How do you tell the chumps apart too?

What number mouse troll are you?
Weren't you just asking why people ridicule each other here?

[Blake]

It was God's love for Lucifer that He created Him in the first place. It was God's love for him that he gave him a free will/freedom of choice.

It was God's love that he decided to create a place of eternal torment for Lucifer.

[xmas1997]

What number mouse troll are you?
Weren't you just asking why people ridicule each other here?

Yes, that was why I wanted to know which Blake I was talking to.
That is not an unreasonable request or an offense.
I like to know which person I am talking to when it is more than one person is all.