Obama is Destroying the GOP as we Know it..

[Nbadan]

By finally showing a spine Obama could accomplish in 2 terms what the GOP as been attempting for decades....

The President has made clear that he will not pay a ransom for Congress doing its job and paying our bills. It is better for economic certainty for Congress to take the threat of default off the table for as long as possible, which is why we support the Senate Democrats’ efforts to raise the debt limit for a year with no extraneous political strings attached. The President also believes that the Republican Leadership in the House should allow for an up or down vote on the clean continuing resolution passed by the Senate that would pass with a bipartisan majority to reopen the government. Once Republicans in Congress act to remove the threat of default and end this harmful government shutdown, the President will be willing to negotiate on a broader budget agreement to create jobs, grow the economy, and put our fiscal house in order. While we are willing to look at any proposal Congress puts forward to end these manufactured crises, we will not allow a faction of the Republicans in the House to hold the economy hostage to its extraneous and extreme political demands. Congress needs to pass a clean debt limit increase and a funding bill to reopen the government.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/1...rough-november

let's keep our fingers crossed that for the first time he goes BIG! BOLD! BALLS TO THE WALL.
he has a few hours to pull off the coup of a poltical life time and crush these teavangel wingnuts and
the kochroach brigade once and for all.

it's actually his duty to not only save the country from financial Armageddon, but take this
tactic out of the political arsenal once and for all for him and future presidents.

....the president should demand an end to the shutdown.
.....the president should demand an end to the sequestration.
.....the president should demand the scrapping of the continuing resolution.
.....the president should demand the house agree to his last budget numbers
and....
....the president should demand that the debt ceiling be eliminated or put on
automatic pilot.

hang them out to dry.

[TSA]

'The fact that we are here today to debate raising America's debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. It is a sign that the US Government can not pay its own bills. It is a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our Government's reckless fiscal policies. Increasing America's debt weakens us domestically and internationally. Leadership means that "the buck stops here." Instead, Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today onto the backs of our children and grandchildren. America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership. Americans deserve better.'

[hitmanyr2k]

It's not hard to sit back and watch the idiots in the other party implode because they were taken over by a bunch of knuckle-draggers Looks like they didn't heed Bobby Jindal's warning. The GOP is still the party of stupid and there's no end in sight.

[Nbadan]

America's only debt problem is the one fabricated by the GOP...the American government continues to be the largest holder of American debt...

[hitmanyr2k]

America's only debt problem is the one fabricated by the GOP...the American government continues to be the largest holder of American debt...

The GOP's hypocrisy kills me lol. It seems they only care about debt and deficits when they're not in power. Their savior Ronald Reagan started the spending spree putting everything on the government credit card. Republicans didn't give a until Clinton got in office. Then their tripling the debt under Reagan/Bush suddenly mattered Then it was no different under Bush. Tax cuts that created no jobs and increased the debt, prescription drug plan on the govt credit card, two wars not counted on the books, etc. The GOP was rubber-stamping that left and right. Cheney was saying deficits don't matter. The country collapses, a black guy gets in office and suddenly the GOP gets "conservative" They're frauds and always have been. Their supporters are pretty damn stupid too.

[Clipper Nation]

The GOP has already destroyed themselves by discouraging any young voters and running and electing nothing but neocons, tbh.... let's not give Obama all the credit for the GOP mortally damaging their own party

[byrontx]

The GOP's hypocrisy kills me lol. It seems they only care about debt and deficits when they're not in power. Their savior Ronald Reagan started the spending spree putting everything on the government credit card. Republicans didn't give a until Clinton got in office. Then their tripling the debt under Reagan/Bush suddenly mattered Then it was no different under Bush. Tax cuts that created no jobs and increased the debt, prescription drug plan on the govt credit card, two wars not counted on the books, etc. The GOP was rubber-stamping that left and right. Cheney was saying deficits don't matter. The country collapses, a black guy gets in office and suddenly the GOP gets "conservative" They're frauds and always have been. Their supporters are pretty damn stupid too.

Pegged it.

[ElNono]

The GOP is killing the GOP

[FuzzyLumpkins]

The GOP has already destroyed themselves by discouraging any young voters and running and electing nothing but neocons, tbh.... let's not give Obama all the credit for the GOP mortally damaging their own party

Sorry but neocons like Boehner, McCain, Graham, etc are not the problem. They are no bed of roses but they are nothing like Cruz and the two other s from gerrymandered Texas districts or those bags Bachmann and Yoho.

I don't know how much longer our country can take single member districts pumping out morons into the House post Citizens United.

[boutons_deux]

'The fact that we are here today to debate raising America's debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. It is a sign that the US Government can not pay its own bills. It is a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our Government's reckless fiscal policies. Increasing America's debt weakens us domestically and internationally. Leadership means that "the buck stops here." Instead, Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today onto the backs of our children and grandchildren. America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership. Americans deserve better.'

what bull , typical TSA post.

If you right-wingers were honestly worried about the deficit, you'd restore all the tax cuts back to 1975, since the problem isn't spending, but tax cuts for the 1% and corps, plus Repug wars.

[TDMVPDPOY]

obama competing with mugabe to be the baddest black president ever? lmao kofi

[boutons_deux]

The GOP is killing the GOP

maybe the tea baggers will form their own Kock Bros party and destroy the Repug for decades. good riddance

[boutons_deux]

The Inevitability of Republican Cowardice

The chickens are coming home to roost and they're still chicken.

But even as he was speaking, the scenario appeared to be unraveling, with a handful of center-right Republicans who had publicly backed a clean CR abruptly reversing their stance-some denying that they had ever supported it in the first place.

Lou Barletta, a Pennsylvania Republican, insisted that any vote include a repeal of a medical device tax unpopular with both the GOP and Democrats. "He's beyond the clean CR," a Barletta spokesman wrote in an email.

"He would vote against it now, because he is now focused on passing the CR with the medical device tax repeal, which can pass the House and Senate. He has found a group of Democrats who would support [it] in the House, [and that] represents a compromise that can get to the president's desk." As for the clean CR-which appeared at the start of the day to have enough votes to pass should Boehner allow it to get to the floor? "That time has passed," the spokesman said. A spokesman for Buffalo, New York-area Congressman Chris Collins, who likewise began the day in favor of bringing a measure to the floor, concurred. "The Congressman is dealing with reality: there is no chance that a clean CR is coming to the floor so we are focusing now on what is possible. Everyone needs to get in a room and compromise."

I talked about this the other day. It is one thing to say how reasonable you are when the nice young NBC researchers bat their eyes at you, or when Uncle Fud who hosts the farm report on the electric radio back in the district asks you what in the Sam Hill is with you fellas in Washington.

It's quite another to get up and vote in such a way as to bring down the unshirted of the unleashed Republican Id upon your melon. Look at your current House of Representatives. I'm not seeing profiles in that kind of courage.

http://readersupportednews.org/opini...ican-cowardice

The Repugs are less chicken s bullied by tea baggers? what a surprise!

pass a clean CR now that they think they can add on the face-saving repeal the medical device tax? Mission Accomplished!

See, bubbas, we slapped the Dems by repealing the medical device tax, INCREASING THE DEFICIT!

Shutdown Setback: Republicans Are Bailing on ‘Clean’ CR

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/10/09/shutdown-setback-republicans-are-bailing-on-clean-cr.html

[TSA]

what bull , typical TSA post.

If you right-wingers were honestly worried about the deficit, you'd restore all the tax cuts back to 1975, since the problem isn't spending, but tax cuts for the 1% and corps, plus Repug wars.

Slow down boutons, those aren't my words, those are Obama's words.

[m>s]

Lol commie liberal circle jerk thread

[baseline bum]

Obama's not doing much positive for the Democratic party either tbh. that for caving on the public option.

[boutons_deux]

Obama's not doing much positive for the Democratic party either tbh. that for caving on the public option.

he had NO CHOICE.

big insurance companies are anti-choice on PO, and they dictate government policy. Pushing for a PO would have meant NO PO and NO ACA at all

btw, of the 57% who are against ACA, 10 or 11% are against it not because "govt is taking over health care" as the ignorant s say, but because ACA doesn't go far enough, eg, PO, etc.

[Clipper Nation]

Sorry but neocons like Boehner, McCain, Graham, etc are not the problem.

Are they as bad as the likes of Bachmann? No, marginally less so.... but really, they're all trotting out the same neoconservative party line of big government, out-of-control foreign policy, and Jeebo ed wedge issues that average Americans aren't interested in anymore, tbh....

[angrydude]

The neocons are the problem. They took the "moderate" position in the GOP. Today to be a moderate in the GOP is to be a neocon. The problem is America hates neocon policies. The only way any other voice or opinion can be heard is by saying or doing extreme things, otherwise you are just ignored. You throw in neocons being crazy like mic e bachman and it all becomes one giant mass of confusion.

[ElNono]

Are they as bad as the likes of Bachmann? No, marginally less so.... but really, they're all trotting out the same neoconservative party line of big government, out-of-control foreign policy, and Jeebo ed wedge issues that average Americans aren't interested in anymore, tbh....

They're simply much more palatable to moderates. If people thought voting Palin was a liability, how appealing you think Bachman is to a moderate?

The neocons are the problem. They took the "moderate" position in the GOP. Today to be a moderate in the GOP is to be a neocon. The problem is America hates neocon policies. The only way any other voice or opinion can be heard is by saying or doing extreme things, otherwise you are just ignored. You throw in neocons being crazy like mic e bachman and it all becomes one giant mass of confusion.

They didn't "take" that position. They simply ended up there because of the bat -crazy (Bachman, Santorum, Cruz, etc) wing cropped up, thinking that going further right was what was needed. Now it's tearing the party apart.

[boutons_deux]

Lots absolutely crazy , slander, lies, fantasies coming out of the Values Voters meeting, as usual.

[Clipper Nation]

They're simply much more palatable to moderates.

Not really, tbh.... the entire party (including the so-called "moderates") is at a record-low favorability rating right now, and "moderates" like McCain and Willard got their asses handed to them by Obama....

And let's be real, what these so-called "moderate" politicians in the GOP want is no different from what the Tea Party wants - bloated government, a nanny state, favors for their crook lobbyist pals, a constantly-growing military, fiat money, Jeebo ed laws on wedge issues, and less liberties for the average American - the only real difference being the way they choose to express themselves.... to claim that the Tea Party is "too far right" just doesn't reflect the truth, because the actual right wing involves small and limited government, not the bloated mess the GOP wants....

[angrydude]

They're simply much more palatable to moderates. If people thought voting Palin was a liability, how appealing you think Bachman is to a moderate?



They didn't "take" that position. They simply ended up there because of the bat -crazy (Bachman, Santorum, Cruz, etc) wing cropped up, thinking that going further right was what was needed. Now it's tearing the party apart.

They did take it. Their names are Charles Krauthammer and Billy Kristol. They appear everyday on fox news programs pretending to be nice moderate reasonable republicans when in fact they stand for everything evil and vile in the world.

[ElNono]

They did take it. Their names are Charles Krauthammer and Billy Kristol. They appear everyday on fox news programs pretending to be nice moderate reasonable republicans when in fact they stand for everything evil and vile in the world.

I don't really watch Fox, so I couldn't tell you. The few times the dial was there, I thought most of them ran the usual white/religion/lib s schtick to the ground in like a minute though.

I'm talking about neocon politicos themselves. Guys like McCain, McConnell, Christie, etc.

[ElNono]

Not really, tbh.... the entire party (including the so-called "moderates") is at a record-low favorability rating right now, and "moderates" like McCain and Willard got their asses handed to them by Obama....

But that has a lot more to do with the fact that the republican platform mysteriously thinks they have to pander to the crazy base instead of the moderate voter, when they know that even if they have to close their nose before voting, they're getting the base votes anyways. It's basically what did Romney in. You can trace his major ups to the "47% takers" comment, the "chucking Medicare to anyone under 50" and "self-deportation". Strategically, they're indeed the stupid party right now.

And that was a neocon candidate. Can you imagine if they go for one of the crazies from the get go? As soon as they mention killing Social Security, it's over.

And let's be real, what these so-called "moderate" politicians in the GOP want is no different from what the Tea Party wants - bloated government, a nanny state, favors for their crook lobbyist pals, a constantly-growing military, fiat money, Jeebo ed laws on wedge issues, and less liberties for the average American - the only real difference being the way they choose to express themselves.... to claim that the Tea Party is "too far right" just doesn't reflect the truth, because the actual right wing involves small and limited government, not the bloated mess the GOP wants....

But that's basically the modern Dems platform too, replacing the jeebo part with, say, gun control. And moderate voters do vote for them. It's simply because Dems don't go out there and outright insult different voter segments. The stupidity and out of touch with the GOP right now is amazing. How could you miss appealing to hispanics, which are largely christian, fairly devout and massively voted for a guy like dubya? You start talking about "self-deportation". I mean, ing facepalm.