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you have the veil thing all wrong, fwiw.
Jer 8 - “Even the stork in the sky
Knows her seasons;
And the turtledove and the swift and the thrush
Observe the time of their migration;
But My people do not know
The ordinance of the LORD. 8“How can you say, ‘We are wise,
And the law of the LORD is with us’?
But behold, the lying pen of the scribes
Has made it into a lie.
you have the veil thing all wrong, fwiw.
Yeah, you are horrible at comprehension, logic and cherry picking.
Uh, no, I do not. We have already gone around on that. How God veils the scripture is not important, because He uses many methods. If you are carnal then they are veiled to you because you cannot see them. If you are carnal they are veiled to you because they are in parables that you cannot understand. They are veiled coming and going. You, sir, are overmatched. Retire from the field lest you lose your head.
Oh I have a lot more. God veils the truth and you don't think He will allow the scribes to pollute His word to maintain the mystery for all but the few? You are a foolish, petulant, pathetic little worm, indeed. To correct your boyfriend, "NO SCRIPTURE IS OF ITS *OWN* INTERPRETATION." MYSTERY MYSTERY, VEILED VEILED, PARABLE PARABLE. Come on, now, sissy boy, we have been over this before and you have already been marinated. You should make a fine fajita by now.
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Oh, my......GOD. One of my favorite songs.I love that woman's voice. So amazing. Any way.... Patton Oswalt on Religion (HILARIOUS) : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55h1FO8V_3w
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Mouse: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3UIojGDIBvI In the same vein as Taylor. (Not your point, but I am going with the theme here.)
Neh. You're simply talking out of your ass.
You're also a pussy that runs from a simple question about the after life.
I have provided you the scriptures. If I am talking out my ass then my ass must be pretty f'ing smart... If the question is so simple that you pose, then I don't need to answer. Let it go, sh*thead. Focus on the topic. (As for pussy: I am what I eat, you d*ckhead.)
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Mother f***er.... It's on now! LOL
LOL. I go to bed and it is called running. I am still here today, NOW....... Where are you and lumpy after I dismantled BOTH of you? Nowhere. LMFAO.
why do you run when I ask you your opinion on the after life?
You guys sure do like your pissing contest. You seem to get lots of pleasure from ridiculing each other.
That is pretty odd, don't you think?
You each blame it on the other.
Is that how you conduct a civil discussion?
Just asking.
1. Thou shalt have no other Gods before me. This commandment is completely worthless. It provides no moral or legal guidance whatsoever - akin to a Commandment that Thou shalt not recognize Unicorns or Pixies or Faeries. Commandments that do nothing more than stroke Yahweh's massive and completely unwarranted ego are completely useless.
2. Thou shalt not make or worship graven images. Yet another worthless commandment. Honestly, the Creator of the entire Universe comes down to our planet, takes the time to actually give us specific commands and THIS is what he gives us? Don't make statues? Really? Another useless commandment that does nothing more than stroke Yahweh's massive ego.
3. Thou shalt not take the lord's name in vain. Really? No swearing? God dammit! Another meaningless Yahweh ego stroking commandment. Don't make fun of Leprechauns! Don't insult Cthulu.
4. Honor the Sabbath by keeping it holy. Honestly, we're nearly half way through the entire list of THE MOST IMPORTANT MORAL AND LEGAL DO ENT EVER and the ONLY thing the do ent has done is stroke Yahweh's massive ego. Honoring the sabbath does not make one moral. It does not lead to a better life. It does not advance human kindness or fairness or equality. Four out of ten and not one sound legal or moral principle. No wonder Representative Westmoreland can't remember them.
5. Honor thy Father and Mother. Finally. This is the first Commandment that actually posits an actual moral position and is actually somewhat useful. To be sure, this is not a legal commandment. And to be sure, many fathers and mothers are not actually worthy of honor, so the commandment is not universally applicable, but as a general proposition, this is actually somewhat worthwhile. Congratulations Yahweh, you finally got one.
6. Thou shalt not murder. And so we come to one of the Commandments that people actually remember. This is the first actual legal principle articulated in the Ten Commandments and it is actually an indispensable legal principle that, unsurprisingly, exists in every single culture.
7. Thou shalt not commit adultery. Another fine moral principle. Not one that is or ever has been particularly well followed, or one that is a recognized legal principle in any Christian or Jewish state, but nevertheless it is a sound moral principle that people should try to follow. Ironically, the only states where this commandment actually carries legal weight are in Islamic countries.
8. Thou shalt not steal. This is one of the other Commandments that people actually remember - mostly because it is an indispensable legal principle in every single culture in human history.
9. Thou shalt not bear false witness. This is the final Commandment that people usually remember - mostly because generally speaking, people know that it is bad to lie, cheat, steal and kill.
10. Thou shalt not covet. Really? Why not? Even if we don't act on it? We shouldn't think about and dream about bettering ourselves? We shouldn't look at what other people have and desire that for ourselves? To be sure, it is wrong to TAKE what other people have, but that is already covered by the no stealing, no adultery, no killing Commandments. Coveting is merely a thought - a desire - to prohibit that merely cons utes a meaningless and completely useless thought crime.
So for those of you keeping score: Five are completely worthless. Two represent good moral aspirations. Three represent indispensable legal principles. In other words, SEVEN of the Ten Commandments are so disposable that they do not even make it into modern legal systems.
God could have done so much better. Instead of engaging in Yahweh's useless ego stroking and punishing thought crimes, God could have said:
Thou shalt not discriminate against one another on the basis of sex, nationality, religion.
Thou shalt not enslave one another.
Thou shalt not torture.
Thou shalt provide equal protection for all citizens under the law.
Thou shalt not arbitrarily deprive citizens of property.
Thou shalt not arbitrarily arrest, detain or exile.
Thou shalt presume the innocence of the accused until they are proven guilty.
Thou shalt not interfere with the privacy of others.
Thou shalt ensure the freedom of thought, freedom of conscience and freedom of speech.
Thou shalt provide for the safety, welfare and security of all your people.
Thou shalt educate your people.
Those are all actually provisions of the UN Declaration of Human Rights. All of which would be a dramatic improvement over Yahweh's ego stroking commands. They actually provide a basis for a more just, equitable honest, fair, egalitarian and peaceful society. Surely an omniscient being could have come up with such commands. Surely an omniscient being could have designed a society in such a way.
Instead Yahweh wastes the bulk of his divinely authored tablets stroking his own ego. Further, Yahweh wastes chapter after chapter after chapter of the Biblical legal code discussing how exactly all of his blood sacrifices must be prepared and then going on to describe in even greater detail the exact measurements and construction methods for the Ark, the exact style of dress for priests, the dimensions of the tabernacle, the width of doors and windows, etc. In other words, VAST amounts of legal doctrine that could have been used as the foundation of a more just, more fair, more peaceful, more virtuous society are instead squandered on useless and pointless laws that do NOTHING but give Yahweh a chance to design buildings, braziers, arks, candles, tents and priestly vestments.
One has to wonder why the Creator of the Entire Universe would have the slightest inclination to waste his time on such pointless and trivial matters when he could have simply outlawed slavery or torture or warfare. The Ten Commandments are worse than mostly useless - They are a colossal waste of opportunity.
http://meaningwithoutgodproject.blog...y-useless.html
You obviously did not see Mel Brooks film, "History of the World Part I" where Moses dropped and broke two or more of the tablets!
But I like your vein of sarcastic humor and rationality!
Great post, even though I disagree with parts, the parts you left words out of, such as #10 Thou shalt not covet thy neighbors .......... etc. It is a little more involved than that.
But all in all really great humorous post.
skull isn't discussing much with me.
Ask him in the most way civil possible about his opinion on the after life for me.
Thanks
Parables!
Good God DMC is that article really what you use as research into the validity of the Bible...lol that was absolutely ridiculous opinions that show no depth in though whatsoever...truly shows someone who is just skimming over the surface not getting any meaning out of the commandments. Just to deal with the first one thou shalt have no other gods...First off this is because any other god would be a false god with false teachings...it would lead into pagan practices...it would lead away from the atonement of Christ which is necessary for salvation. Secondly to get deeper into it ANYTHING can be a false god...the worship of money, pride, cars, our home, women, tv...basically anything that gets in the way of developing our relationship with our creator and our brothers and sisters in the faith can become a god to us...anything that becomes more important than Him and takes our time away from Him. You can lump the creation of graven images into this commandment. This is called idolatry and again anything can become an idol...basically if there is only ONE God and it's YHWH (not Yahweh) then any worship of something false don't you think that would be sinful...to disrespect and dishonor your creator in such a way...the one who sent His son to die for you and loves you...if you were God and your child worshipped someone else that would hurt wouldn't it? Truly poor article with no substance at all.
Ismael, I think he meant it to be humorous.
Even God has a sense of humor. Don't forget Mel Brooks movie.
We can get too serious about these things for our own good and when that happens we next start taking ourselves too seriously, that leads to all sorts of mistakes and sins, like pride, greed, self righteousness, and personal ridicule.
What's your opinion on why God allowed slavery?
God is pretty serious about his laws. He is pro-capital punishment
So says Judaism or the Old Testament.
What about the New Testament?
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