It's Pretty Simple...If You Believe In Right From Wrong - You Believe In God

[Leetonidas]

I'm bout to staight get into some immoral kinky activity in bout 5 min. It will be a quicky...then imma get me something to eat. After that i will address you, leets, and that crazy dude posting all that old testament stuff...i got answers for it all.

the bible says that premarital sex is wrong and immoral. therefore you're not moral so you must not believe in god. silly koolaids

[Clipper Nation]

Like me? I lobby for laws? Since when?

You may not lobby for certain laws, but the religion that you're semen-shielding for undeniably does....

[RandomGuy]

Instinct (and if you subscribe to CS Lewis's teachings, that instinct is itself proof of God). An argument, however, could easily be made that that ingrained morality in Humans is the result of evolution....being necessary to live together in complex societies

I generally don't subscribe to circular logic.

I don't think instinct is really quite enough to capture the entire process. There has to be an element of reason there as well.

[RandomGuy]

It matters because there are people that claim they get their morality from the bible.

The bible is not a source of morals.

Answer this question:

Is it moral to slit the throat of a child?

[non-answer]

Sorry, this is the kind of question that you don't get to ignore.

I will ask it again for a second time:

Is it moral to slit the throat of a child?



If you don't like that one, then here is an alternate:

Is it moral to drown babies?

I would also accept an answer from the OP. What about it Kool aid man, you gonna man up or play chicken on this one?

[101A]

I generally don't subscribe to circular logic.

Nor do I....That's why I'm so logical.

I don't think instinct is really quite enough to capture the entire process. There has to be an element of reason there as well.

Agreed - but reasonableness is also ingrained (or not - as many posters demonstrate on a moment to moment basis)

Essentially we are talking Enlightened Self Interest, are we not?

[101A]

Sorry, this is the kind of question that you don't get to ignore.

I will ask it again for a second time:

Is it moral to slit the throat of a child?



If you don't like that one, then here is an alternate:

Is it moral to drown babies?

I would also accept an answer from the OP. What about it Kool aid man, you gonna man up or play chicken on this one?

Fellow Christians, you have been called out. You KNOW he is pulling from Old Testament passages - you also KNOW that those acts, in any context ARE immoral!!! Are you going to simply ignore him - is that what Jesus would have done? RG is calling you out; As he said; Man UP!!

[RD2191]

RandomGuy, do some research and you will find that what your are claiming is wrong and taken completely out of context.

[RandomGuy]

It matters because there are people that claim they get their morality from the bible.

The bible is not a source of morals.

Answer this question:

Is it moral to slit the throat of a child?

[non-answer]

Sorry, this is the kind of question that you don't get to ignore.

I will ask it again for a second time:

Is it moral to slit the throat of a child?

RandomGuy, do some research and you will find that what your are claiming is wrong and taken completely out of context.

It is a pretty straightforward, basic question, that should be easy to answer. Feel free to ask me if you want, I will give you an answer the first time you ask it.

For the third time, yes or no:

Is it moral to slit the throat of a child?

[101A]

RandomGuy, do some research and you will find that what your are claiming is wrong and taken completely out of context.

Weak.

Seriously.

[101A]

It is not moral to slit the throat of a child.

It's really simple, robdiaz2191.

[RD2191]

Have you studied the book of Hosea, RandomGuy?

[RandomGuy]

It matters because there are people that claim they get their morality from the bible.

The bible is not a source of morals.

Answer this question:

Is it moral to slit the throat of a child?

[non-answer]

Sorry, this is the kind of question that you don't get to ignore.

I will ask it again for a second time:

Is it moral to slit the throat of a child?

RandomGuy, do some research and you will find that what your are claiming is wrong and taken completely out of context.

It is a pretty straightforward, basic question, that should be easy to answer. Feel free to ask me if you want, I will give you an answer the first time you ask it.

For the third time, yes or no:

Is it moral to slit the throat of a child?

Have you studied the book of Hosea, RandomGuy?

That is not an answer to my question, that is evasive bull , and you know it. If you can't do me the courtesy of answering something simple, I am not going to give you the courtesy of a reply to yours.

For the fourth time a simple yes or no question:

Is it moral to slit the throat of a child?

[RandomGuy]

It is not moral to slit the throat of a child.

It's really simple, robdiaz2191.

Pretty much. The inability to answer a simple question puts one in the corner with Cosmored. Not quite the company anybody with any self-respect would want to keep.

[RD2191]

Well I need to know if you've read the book of Hosea?

[Clipper Nation]

Wow, Jeebo iaz is a sick .... so married to his fairy tale book that he can't even admit that slitting a child's throat is wrong....

[101A]

Well I need to know if you've read the book of Hosea?

You're acting like a Pharisee.

Think about it.

[RandomGuy]

It matters because there are people that claim they get their morality from the bible.

The bible is not a source of morals.

Answer this question:

Is it moral to slit the throat of a child?

[non-answer]

Sorry, this is the kind of question that you don't get to ignore.

I will ask it again for a second time:

Is it moral to slit the throat of a child?

RandomGuy, do some research and you will find that what your are claiming is wrong and taken completely out of context.

It is a pretty straightforward, basic question, that should be easy to answer. Feel free to ask me if you want, I will give you an answer the first time you ask it.

For the third time, yes or no:

Is it moral to slit the throat of a child?

Have you studied the book of Hosea, RandomGuy?

That is not an answer to my question, that is evasive bull , and you know it. If you can't do me the courtesy of answering something simple, I am not going to give you the courtesy of a reply to yours.

For the fourth time a simple yes or no question:

Is it moral to slit the throat of a child?

Well I need to know if you've read the book of Hosea?

Pwd.

You did it to yourself.

The answer is no, it is not moral. I can answer that easily.

You can't.

I can conclude based on an inability to answer that question:

1) You are a lying, dishonest sack of .
--only lying dishonest sack of would run away from that question.

or

2) You think the answer is yes, making you an evil, sick , but don't want to admit to the world you are that sick and twisted.


I have no interest in talking to either lying sacks of , or evil, sick s. I will not answer your question.

Maybe coolaid man can give me an answer.

[xmas1997]

And where is any of this crap in the New Testament?

[mouse]

Pwd.
You are a lying, dishonest sack of . an evil, sick ,

I just remembered why I would avoid debating with RG

[mouse]

And where is any of this crap in the New Testament?

That blue book you found on the DNA infested nightstand by the bed at the Super 8 Motel your staying at is called the book of Mormon,
it might not have the same info as the Book they are referring to in this discussion......, let me PM Angel Luv to make sure.

[xmas1997]

That blue book you found on the DNA infested nightstand by the bed at the Super 8 Motel your staying at is called the book of Mormon,
it might not have the same info as the Book they are referring to in this discussion......, let me PM Angel Luv to make sure.

[Koolaid_Man]

like this really illustrates how horribly written much of the Bible is, if you ignore the historical significance and just focus on the plot.... two random-ass "shebears" tearing people limb from limb? What the ?

the problem is you guys don't have proper context for many of this old testament stuff...and your making false assumptions and judgments based on lack of context...here's the explanation for it...

This passage rather clearly seems to fall under the genre of fable, or morality tale. Kind of like a fable of Aesop, the point is that Elisha was a great prophet and you shouldn’t despise prophets no matter how difficult their words are. I could see this story passed on to children as a story about honoring prophets.

Understanding genre allows us to sidestep the ridiculous contortions that cause people to make everything that appears like history in the Old Testament to be history as we understand it today. This passage neither intends history as we know it, nor is necessarily even written for that purpose. Understanding the role that oral transmission of legends and stories played in the ancient world can allow us both to have a laugh and understand something about the purpose of this story without justifying the historical Elisha for murdering children for making fun of him.

[Koolaid_Man]

Koolaid man trying to using the Bible as his evidence but doesn't realize who Noah was thanks for proving that you've never read it like the other 95% of christians and just spout off nonsensical garbage because it supports your insane point of view

Leets in all honesty I did that on purpose....I just wanted to get a rise out of someone....and it worked

[Koolaid_Man]

the bible says that premarital sex is wrong and immoral. therefore you're not moral so you must not believe in god. silly koolaids

I believe..I'm just a sinner....lost and trying to find my way back....

[Koolaid_Man]

If I had to bet, I would bet you have sucked on a dildo once or twice in your lifetime.

once....was just playing around with my girl.... ahhhhh sike just kidding