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Politicians aren't opinion makers. They're followers. Things like the "Weekly Standard" are extremely influential with those who consider themselves the "intellectual class" of the GOP.
In a whole lot of districts and especially a heavily gerrymandered districts you have to pander to the crazy base if they want to win the primary or election. David Dewhurst knows all about that.
Politicians aren't opinion makers. They're followers. Things like the "Weekly Standard" are extremely influential with those who consider themselves the "intellectual class" of the GOP.
Come on, man "actual right wing' Really??!?
Right wing does not mean liberty and small government necessarily. The nazi party is considered by many to be right wing. That in no way is to say that you are comparable. I am just saying that to point out the difference.
If I were to describe your positions, it would be isolationist and anti-establishment. The US has been 'big government' since the new deal. That is the establishment to conserve. That last time the GOP held your views, Herbert Hoover was winning the White House at the tail end of laissez faire.
The tea party was clearly a grass roots movement. This group did not rise from a compliant sector. But the platform that involves tearing government apart, this nihilistic at ude of destroy, provides no solutions. They want less government involvement in what aspects of government? Everything? On the heals of big investment firms almost freezing the flow of cash in the US? The Treasury dpt. having to pull us out of the mess that big private firms got us into? And in a verydivisive manner. The tea party does not believe ANY intervention was necessary, and that's just nuts.
They have no solutions. There never was a health care problem because most of these mad old white people were getting money from the government thru Medicare. Me, Myself and I... We can overspend on Medicare and they are fine. Narrow minded twits.
"tea party was clearly a grass roots movement"
tea party is clearly an astro turf FRINGE movement, financed and inflamed by Kock Bros and other VRWC orgs for their own enrichment, not for the benefit of duped astro turfers on the bottom.
"We can overspend on Medicare"
damn, you're stupid. Medicare and actual health care aren't the problem AT ALL.
The problem is for-profit, gouging corporate health care PRICES that make Medicare and Medicaid expensive.
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That's what it used to mean here, tbh....
If I were to describe your positions, it would be isolationist and anti-establishment.Isolationist? The real isolationism is our current foreign policy, which has ruined our reputation abroad.... non-interventionism is not isolationism, tbh....
around here all manner of stupidity and ignorance is tossed back and forth, tbh.That's what it used to mean here, tbh....
Non-interventionism is isolationism. You do not intervene in the affairs of other countries. The isolationists in the first and second WW didn't want us to intervene in those conflicts. It has its roots in the Monroe Doctrine whereby we stay on our side if they stay on their side of the Atlantic.
We are still close to our NATO allies especially with this new president, African nations have their hate centered around Europe and the ICC. Our relations in Asia have been good. Normalized relations with Vietnam lately, China and us our the worlds leading trade partners, Japan, etc. The Arab world is going to hate us since the UK gave Israel to the Jews and we will not let them blow them up and let them have nuclear weapons. We have been fighting Saracens for a millennium.
I'm not saying that your positions do not have merit. I disagree on some points but that is just what it is. I am just saying that you are more similar to 19th century rural populism than you do to the American right for the last 100 years
If you don't understand your enemy...
The tea party was grass roots and then funded (many factions distrusted big money)
If you can't admit there is significant distrust of government in this country you are lost.
So the fact that the baby boomers are aging is insignificant?
I could go on and on... We don't have a nonprofit health care system, so deal with the present.
This is the problem with the simple world of the ideologue. The house is on fire and you ponder upon how the fire got started.
distrust of govt is for ignorant assholes. Govt is necessary, and it makes the country go 'round ast austerity of the sequester and shutdown have proven that "invisible" govt operations actually grease the economy.
To deflect criticism from themselves to govt(which they own), corporations and Kock Bros types have fomented a hate of govt, when in fact the problem is corrupted, compromised govt agencies, politicians doing the bidding of their corporate financiers. So YOU distrusting govt rather the the 1% and big corps that run govt shows you have no clue what causes the fire.
"limited govt" is another CORPORATE objective to kill EPA, OSHA, etc. so the corporations can people and the envirnoment and the economy to the corporations' profit.
The "spending out of control" bull is really background for cutting taxes (which doesn't stimulate jobs or economic growth) on the 1% and big corporations, while visiting austerity on and increasing taxes on the 47% mooches and takes so they got more "skin in the game".
The tea baggers actually win with the shutdown and Treasury default because those ups increase the disgust with govt. But politically the tea baggers and Repugs are facing electoral disaster.
How do you, self-proclaimed anti-idealogue, propose to "deal with the present" of wealth sucking of the for-profit health care system?
This is a huge complicated problem. And I am far from an expert like you.
My first idea would be to make health insurance like other forms of insurance in that they protect the individual from catastrophic events. People need to pay for office visits and other minor expenses, as compared to major problems involving surgery and hospitalization. However, I realize that even office visits are very expensive for poorer people. This might make them less likely to go to the doctor, or take their kids, which might lead to catastrophic care becoming more common. People more knowledgable than I have some ideas how to take care of this.
Secondly, I am of the opinion that doctors, on the whole, make too much money. Primary care could be handed off to PAs more often. The "doc in the box" business is quite good for minor problems. Many folks with insurance use these for minor s ching, antibiotics for 2ndary infections, etc... already because it's fast and relatively inexpensive. This completely bypasses insurance companies so there must be a way.
Insurance companies, doctors, and Pharma, are not, on the whole, hurting. Hospitals are either raping people, and or insurance companies, or going under, or profiting off of tax payers. The interaction between these essential parts of free market medical treatment needs to be made clearer to the American people. There are parts of this interaction that benefit all of these essential pieces but hurt health care. These need to be brought to the forefront, not hidden by a president and congress. We have a deal currently that has hidden built in profit that does not help health care. People must be made to come clean. I don't know how this is done. I also understand that fear of lawsuits drive up expenses.
And probably the biggest factor is education. So many people have no clue as to how their body works and how to take care of it. And they certainly can't take care of their children. It is here that I meet the age old quandary of how much individual responsibility is necessary.
Last edited by pgardn; 10-13-2013 at 10:24 AM.
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