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No he doesn't. Where are you getting this from?
In the NT, he doesn't kill you. He fries you forever.
Not sure why nothingness isn't an option for God
No he doesn't. Where are you getting this from?
The New Testament.
You're not bright.
And you're sure about this? Because I've done my research. Do you wanna get owned?
And the fourth angel poured out his vial upon the sun; and power was given unto him to scorch men with fire.
- Revelation 16:8
And men were scorched with great heat, and blasphemed the name of God, which hath power over these plagues: and they repented not to give him glory.
- Revelation 16:9
And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.
- Revelation 20:9
watch out, the owning is coming
Revelations is an apocalyptic form of writing.
Look up the meaning in the dictionary.
Someone in this topic got the Smack bat.
It was too easy.
Bad translation. Learn to research, jerkoff.
He is only sure within the confines of his tiny mind. When he gets owned he conveniently forgets it and starts the argument anew. The cycle continues until someone finally washes their hands of it.
He has no concept of the metaphor regarding the lake of fire, who is involved, or their place in relation to it.... He is a fool.
The bad trees get burned, but it is not eternal torment. And fire makes things pure. But he missed that, too, with his bs Christian tradition that he doesn't believe...unless it is to mock....then he believes it. Lmfao. Total .
Then God sucks at communication.......which contradicts perfection.
No sir, man sucks at communication. Man is imperfect, you and I are imperfect. If indeed God exists, then most of us who believe that, also believe He is perfect.
The only thing imperfect is your conception of Him and your interpretation of what has been said of Him.
Can a tiny ant conceive anything valid of a human?
I have to love Christian copouts. Who is man supposedly made in the image of? So imperfect came from perfect intentionally now.
'Perfect' is just stupid circular reasoning when it comes to Christianity. god is perfect. Why? Because everything from god is perfect but its not. Oh wait, it's because we like to play stupid semantic games.
Your god is supposed to be omnipotent and infinite. That is obviously false.
I need to ask you again: How do you know a single word of the Bible is "God's word"? You didn't hear it yourself, so you're taking someone's word for it, the same someone who you just stated is imperfect. So a perfect God relies on an imperfect vessel to deliver his message, and you being imperfect, have to decide which parts of the message are true and which are fabricated.
So is your premiss that man is perfect, or what?
How do you know beyond a shadow of any doubt that it is false, that God is not omnipotent, omnipresent, infinite, and infallible?
I happen to believe that everything from God IS perfect. And I never said it was not. I said that man is imperfect, not God. And that man, being in the image of God, and having a free will, also creates.
But man being imperfect, creates imperfectly.
Is this so hard to understand?
I also said this was MY, not YOUR, opinion and based on MY experiences, studies, and conscience, and based on YOURS.
And that I do not expect you or anyone else to believe as I do.
What is so hard about that for you to grasp?
Or do you just want to get into pissing contests?
I won't go there with you, sorry.
You don't even know what perfect is. It's just a word you throw out and then call yourself 'imperfect.' You are comparing yourself to something which you will admit you do not understand in your god. You are glorifying something so as to denigrate yourself.So is your premiss that man is perfect, or what?
How do you know beyond a shadow of any doubt that it is false, that God is not omnipotent, omnipresent, infinite, and infallible?
I happen to believe that everything from God IS perfect. And I never said it was not. I said that man is imperfect, not God. And that man, being in the image of God, and having a free will, also creates.
But man being imperfect, creates imperfectly.
Is this so hard to understand?
I also said this was MY, not YOUR, opinion and based on MY experiences, studies, and conscience, and based on YOURS.
And that I do not expect you or anyone else to believe as I do.
What is so hard about that for you to grasp?
Or do you just want to get into pissing contests?
I won't go there with you, sorry.
It's not that God is perfect that is meaningful because you can only attribute a need for unquestioning obedience as an outcome. According to your world, perfect is not a necessary outcome of gods actions because you think he made us and we are not perfect. No, instead what is important is that you are imperfect. You are supposed to fixate on what you have done wrong and in some way atone for it. There is a reason your religion has been called a slave religion.
It's convenient that his disciples said that he died so you really don't have to 'do' anything but I imagine selling a lot of this horse to the hegemony was not easy.
I don't know anything for certain, btw. I just default to not believing without reason to believe. You know that as skepticism.
And lastly, if you don't want your beliefs questioned then I would advise you not to post. If I see a copout then I am going to comment on it. It has nothing to do with machismo 'contests.' I see typical logically inconsistent semantic nonsense and I comment on it. The notions of truth and knowledge are central to my philosophy and I am not afraid of having my beliefs examined. I invite it.
I agree that you have made a point. I agree that there is no proof. On either side.
None of us heard anything directly from whomever or whatever this - word "god" is. None of us can prove that this word "god" did NOT have anything to do with this book either. You have some inconsistencies in the book - but this does not prove anything either except that there are inconsistencies. It also points to the fact that humans did not and do not understand many parts of it - yet. Maybe they never will. What difference does it make?
None. It isn't about a book. Life/reality/love/god whatever you want to label it - is so much more than some book.
Cue the "burden of proof blah blah insult insult logic blah insult"
The book was written by humans. You insinuate it was put here by aliens.
I think I hear some assholes calling for you... get to fingering.
You are still falling back on insults since you feel insecure debating on truth.
Understood.
The scriptures are veiled. The scribes were prophesied to lie. People will teach error and mislead many. It is all in there, idiot.
Man is not made in the image of God, re . It is a parable.
As if God was so stupid he forgot to make a woman, didn't know where Adam was hiding, etc.
Grow a brain.
Was the virgin birth of Jesus also a parable? Were the miracles parables? Is God a parable?
You can laugh all you want. I have posted many of the applicable passages. Error in Christian doctrine was foretold and is why only a few find truth. You don't have to believe the book but if you are gonna discuss it then you have to acknowledge that it does in fact say that.
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