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First you have the thoroughbred league and then you have the Eurobred league. If a man can't make it in the first there is no shame in the latter.
He sure had him warming up the bench quite a bit the first season. Same for Bonner. Same for Splitter.
Heck, De Colo played more games than all those 3 did in his first season as a Spur. He definitely had his chances.
First you have the thoroughbred league and then you have the Eurobred league. If a man can't make it in the first there is no shame in the latter.
I didn't know Pop was into building player's character.
Ask Pop and he would say, I'm yelling because I'm pissed that your playing like crap.
well, that too. But you also have Splitter or Hill "not being ready" (according to Pop) for their first playoffs, for example.
I'm not sure what you want to say. I've never said De Colo is receiving a treatment that other haven't received or that he didn't received opportunities to show what he can do. I've never said that De Colo was some kind of amazing player who was ruined by Pop.
What I'm saying is just that I would easily understand and even agreed if De Colo wanted to leave Spurs.
First, he won't get consistent playing time with Spurs.
Second, Spurs haven't bee that friendly with him lately.
Third, if he goes back to Spain his personal life would certainly be easier. Since he isn't married his
Spanish fiancee isn't able to stay the whole year in the US.
-there is no reason to defend Nando. he hasn't been very good on the court and isn't exactly being a good soldier about it.
-Manu needs to refine that long distance shooting. it peaked a couple of years ago and has fallen off a bit
-backup pg position is still the biggest concern on the team. CoJo still looks overwhelmed at times. doesn't really create and doesn't look really comfortable with the role of initiating the offense. bellineli can handle it for a possession here and there, but like Manu, he needs to go back to doing what he does best, shooting, to set up the rest of his game. it looks like Manu will be the de facto backup pg yet again, and this time we don't have Neal to go to in a pinch. I'm sure Mills can more or less handle anything Neal did.
-baynes did disappoint. he needs to realize that more often than not, he is physically superior to his counterpart on the other team.
-ayres has been a revelation and looks like a really good pickup. he can hit the Kurt Thomas jumper and plays with some intensity.
-i actually love what Maggette brings to the table. he's not going to be a guy that plays heavy rotation minutes (with Danny, Kawhi, Bello, Manu, and even Diaw getting some minutes at the 3) we have enough wing players to not be reliant on big minutes from Maggette. But its always good to have somebody who is willing to put pressure on the defense and attack attack attack. particularly if we have a lead in a game and the big guns need a breather. throw him in there and let him get to the line like he always does. got there 8 times. as long as he isn't responsible with the role of defending one of the other teams better players, he should be fine if he makes the roster.
-of course, its good to see Timmy looking this good. tbh, i don't know if i'm really pumped for the season. i was really drained after this past year and dont think my heart will really be in it for the first month or so of the season. with that said, its amazing to see Tim has more fire than I do as a fan. he looks locked and loaded for another yet. may the punisher protect him
Last edited by spurraider21; 10-13-2013 at 09:08 PM.
I already stated what I want to say: I don't particularly agree that the Spurs behavior with him has been that much different than with other players.
If he can't handle the pressure or has other personal problems, then I would agree with you that walking away would make sense too.
I mean, he wouldn't be the first player that couldn't make it past Pop's mindgames. Udrih comes to mind.
The Spurs didn't have a true back up PG and they wanted to avoid overusing Ginobili. De Colo had more lives than a cat. At 26, for a player who can't shoot or direct an offense, I'm not really sure what he can improve upon.
He doesn't have the right to be snarky with anyone but himself. He should be thanking the Spurs for the opportunity because I don't think there's another organization that would have.
Nando was the one that started with the behavior last season. He shouldn't be in the NBA or on the team. He isn't tough enough mentally and doesn't display tenacity on the court. He's trying to play a finesse game out there IMO. He needs to play tougher and scrappier.
I think Nando can't have it both ways.. He lacked playing time during the playoffs.. and while in regular season he showed some promise as a passing shooting guard, his game was plagued by turnovers and bad shooting.. I suppose it was only fair for the Spurs to have him play summer league by re-learning the Spurs offense (and also defense).
The thing is he is not cutting it well as a player without the ball and he thinks he is better than this situation is. It is not the Spurs fault.
The best thing for all is to trade De Colo to a team where he can find a role. Maybe the Sixers? or the Jazz or Magic or Bobcats or some like that where they wouldn't mind trying out a prospect. If not he can go back to Europe.
DeColo didn't even play 20 minutes a game for France in their Eurobasket run, yielding a meh 7/2/1 statline. I'm not sure how he expects to crack the rotation on one of the best teams in the world when he barely gets minutes or produces for his NT.
He does have $1.4 million on the books. We don't have to many players we would seem willing to trade. Moving him along with Bonner or even Diaw could allow us to get near the $7 million dollar range in return.
Trade him to Denver for Anthony Randolph, TBH. Both players can't find minutes with their team. Denver will play a lot of triangle but they still only have Ty Lawson as a shoot creator. They even play Wilson Chandler as SG. We would badly need a shoot blocker, a long, athletic body, and AR qualifies.
Last edited by szkorhetz; 10-14-2013 at 12:48 AM.
Like I said. If it was possible I'd get rid of all of out backup PG's and give their money to Teodosic.
Is he even allowed to sign win an NBA team? How does his contract work?
Don't know. It's a question for Bruno. I would guess that CSKA would want a lot of money, cause he is one of the highest paid players in Europe but also one of the best. I also think his contract is over after this year, so some teams from the NBA will probably knock on his doors.
And this is exactly why the team hasn't had a back up point guard since Speedy. Pop plays to many bull games with players minds. He may not be as tough as Parker mentally, but if its what you've got, then you gotta put a player in the best position to make you successful without running your starting pg into the ground and forcing others to play out of position. It'll come back to haunt you in the playoffs.
And I ain't even defending De Colo. He's just another player in the Pop back up point guard dog house routine.
Last edited by UZER; 10-14-2013 at 01:55 AM.
sucks to hear about DeColo, I didn't watch the game but have a feeling this won't end well.
I had high hopes for the guy, but maybe it's not meant to be. I read his interview over the summer, saying how much he missed Spain. I share his sentiments on Spain, but add to the fact he's got a fiancee over there, then maybe his head isn't in the right place. Or maybe he's simply too much of a about things. Sucks we still don't have an answer for the backup PG, not sure if the mindgames are helping or hurting in that regard.
I thought both Jack Vaughn and TJ Ford were serviceable, but they were both vets, and had a relative short run with the team.
My personal impression is that the Spurs don't really feel they have a major hole to plug there. With Tony being young and able to play many minutes, I get the feeling they just want somebody so-so to burn minutes in the regular season, and ultimately I think Pop trusts Manu more than anybody else to run the backup PG when the playoffs roll around. That's what I see. What I think is that the backup PG situation has been a problem for a while, and I much rather have Manu playing SG anyways. I actually liked when they signed TJ Ford. I thought it was addressing that issue. It's a shame he had that accident and he had to retire.
Too much mind-reading going on Pop.. Pop is doing what Pop does best - plainspeaking to players on the basketball court and establishing a relationship off-court.
It isn't Pop's fault that Nando has been underwhelming-to-unimpressive .. It isn't his fault that Nando thinks he can reprise his role in an inferior league as a NBA player.. Pop has been as good with Nando as with any other player ever. It has got nothing to do with Pop.
I think Nando has to find a niche for himself and do what is expected off him on the court. Anything less and then howmushsoever, he frets and fumes, it is his fault and not anyone else's.
There are just two ways to this thing - a minor mess in a teacup - either Nando is patient and finds his way or is traded. I see a prospect more for the latter than the former, because of the guard logjam and also because there is going to be less patience in a contender like the Spurs instead of a rebuilding team.
Spurs need to release Maggette, he is not type of player for winning team, ruin every basketball chemistry when he on the floor, style of game and defense very poor... Spurs should have kept Young even if he was awful in first game, at least he is player that play hard and tough and always will be ready when he is called...
i see him more like smaller David Robinson...
One thing i realized about Nando a year ago: he needs good players around him, we saw what Nando can do when paired with good teammates, it's no surprise that he can't play well paired with 3rd stringers.
In comparison mills lights it the up for his NT, and doesn't about his minutes for he spurs, he just puts his head down and works hard
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