Since Evolution Is The Answer - Tell Me When Can I Expect To Grow My Wings And Fly

[RD2191]

And yes, I am aware of who the man is but he does make some good points.

[Woo Bum-kon]

Young earth creationist with a Ph.D. in hydraulic engineering having "good points." And Talk Origins completely demolished these tired assertions: http://talkorigins.org/origins/faqs-qa.html

The Human Origins site is full of "think", "probably', and "do not know". So if that's the case, can one definitively rule out a superior being that created humans?

That's not how it works. It is not the job of a scientist--or anybody, really--to rule out other claims; it's the job of the one making the claim to provide evidence for that claim. There is no good evidence that a superior being created the universe. It's always amusing to watch you Bible thumpers attack evolution and Big Bang cosmology, because none of you seem to get that even if both of those were untrue, that wouldn't give anymore credibility towards your belief in an invisible sky daddy at all.

[Woo Bum-kon]

1.Human evolution is a theory

Oh my God, you Creationists are so predictable that it is sad. You don't understand what a scientific theory is. You are a living, breathing cliche.

2. Missing link according to the human origins site

Which is filled by several fossils that have been discussed already.

3. scientist think we came from Heidelbergensis

Scientists didn't just guess when they came to that conclusion. They looked at the evidence and came to a conclusion based off the evidence.

4. leaves open the possibility that God created humans

How? You attacking evolution doesn't somehow make your position more likely to be true.

Provide evidence that supports your position that God created humans.

[Woo Bum-kon]

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[DMC]

We once thought man had evolved to his current form, however we now laugh at that since we know through meditation and prayer that a super ghost presence in the universe that's not actually part of the universe (but actually is part of it) which resides outside of space and time but can affect both at his whim (yes it's a him, why would we put a woman in charge?) created man out of the dust of this planet. Out of dust he created man and from that man he created woman. This is scientifically proven if you have faith that it's true.

So let's all get along and pretend this silly evolution suggestion never occurred. It's quite embarrassing now that we know the truth.

[Blake]

Provide evidence that supports your position that God created humans.

because nature is so beautiful. it brings a tear to my eye.

[Kool Bob Love]

....I mean based on the "logic" of evolution we're only getting better with time right? So when does wings mixed in with a little eagle vision somehow find it's way into the human genome...do we need to cross breed humans with birds first or will the kids born 100 yrs from now just mysteriously have wings attached to their bodies...can a good atheist please explain how this evolution thing works...I'm looking forward to visiting Pluto on my own....

Memo to atheists: Evolution gets you to the strange freaky creatures that you saw on Star Wars...it doesn't get you to a perfectly balanced human body with organs in their proper place....evolution doesn't decide when it has the perfect human body and then stop evolving...it doesn't decide that it has the perfect genome and now it can stop producing freaks of nature on a mass scale...it doesn't decide the brain need to in the head as opposed to on your feet...it doesn't decide universally that all blood no matter the species must be red...it just doesn't compute for me...

[Clipper Nation]

The Human Origins site is full of "think", "probably', and "do not know". So if that's the case, can one definitively rule out a superior being that created humans?

The fact that there is physical evidence in DNA and the fossil record that suggests evolution happened while there is no physical evidence for your invisible sky fairy existing certainly gives evolution more credibility than your fairy tales, tbh....

[RD2191]

Its still a biased theory, no scientist can state he is a creationist without being mocked or ridiculed by his peers. So who is really looking for an alternative theory? There are plenty of things wrong with the theory of evolution. You say scientist came to a conclusion, in other words they presume that we evolved from a great ape. There are no transitional fossils and no direct link between modern man and apes. Even the human origins site states that it is still unknown where humans came from, they "think" we evolved from erectus or Heidelberg, in other words, they do not know.

[Blake]

So you're dismissing the theory that actually comes with strong evidence and going with the one that has absolutely no evidence.

That's smart.

[RD2191]

So you believe there was nothing that created everything because nothing decided to explode?

[RD2191]

And where is the evidence?

[RD2191]

I believe that something created everything, which seems more logical? Look at the computer right in front of you, did it create itself? Or did someone build it?

[angrydude]

look everyone knows we came from battlestar galactica

[Blake]

So you believe there was nothing that created everything because nothing decided to explode?

i never said that. Why does abiogenesis have to be my only other option?

[Blake]

I believe that something created everything, which seems more logical? Look at the computer right in front of you, did it create itself? Or did someone build it?

How do you account for the creator? Who created him /her /it?

[RD2191]

ok, so what is your other option or theory on how humans came to be?

[mouse]

Oh my God, you Creationists .

[RD2191]

He has always been and always will be. No beginning or no end. You will say that its illogical to believe that but is it logical to believe that nothing exploded and made everything? And if you do not believe in the big bang then you believe that the universe has always been here, so how can you rule out that a supreme being hasn't always existed?

[Blake]

ok, so what is your other option or theory on how humans came to be?

Humans got here probably by sheer luck. Lottery ticket winners.

[RandomGuy]

no basis, but the fact still remains, scientist do not know where humans came from

Actually we do.

[RD2191]

From a great ape?

[Blake]

He has always been and always will be. No beginning or no end. You will say that its illogical to believe that but is it logical to believe that nothing exploded and made everything? And if you do not believe in the big bang then you believe that the universe has always been here, so how can you rule out that a supreme being hasn't always existed?

I'm leaning towards a multi big bang theory where the universe has always been in a constant state of expanding and contracting.

I'm also cool with meh, dunno.

I just know I can rule out Bible God.

[RandomGuy]

He has always been and always will be. No beginning or no end. You will say that its illogical to believe that but is it logical to believe that nothing exploded and made everything? And if you do not believe in the big bang then you believe that the universe has always been here, so how can you rule out that a supreme being hasn't always existed?

It is quite logical to think the universe exists. We are in it after all.

If God has always existed with no beginning and no end, then there is one thing with that property, according to your theory.

How do you know the universe itself does NOT have that property?

This is the special pleading logical fallacy by the way.

"everythign in the universe has the property of having a beginning and an end, except God"

Please provide some proof that God does not have a beginning or end. Your claim, your burden of proof.

[RD2191]

I do not know that the universe does not have that property. I stated that if that's the case, then how can one dismiss a supreme being who has always existed?