Ultimate Atheists Challenge - Design A Better Universe

[Koolaid_Man]

Okay. Here is your chance to design a universe that is better than the one we live in. Many people claim that the poor design of our universe and/or God's involvement or lack thereof results in a universe that is unacceptable. In order to present a thorough model, please address all the following issues:

1. Will the beings you create be equal to you or less powerful?
2. What degree of free will will you allow to those beings?
3. How will you prevent those beings from hurting you, each other and their creation?
4. What will you do with those beings who break your rules?
5. What laws of physics will you use?

I encourage you to "think outside the box." The universe you design does not have to be similar to our universe. Change the laws of physics. Think about gravity, thermodynamics, matter, energy, etc. Think about the beings who you create. How will they interact with you and each other (you don't have to use the five senses that we have)? My goal is to get you to think deeply about the issues of free will and love and how those issues are affected by the physical laws. I look forward to your ideas.

If you are a type A atheist, who knows something about physics and theology, we want your ideas! You assignment will be to examine the four fundamental forces of physics and specifically modify (or eliminate) them improve your design for spiritual creatures:

1. Strong nuclear force (keeps protons within atomic nuclei from flying away)
2. Weak nuclear force (responsible for phenomena within the atomic nucleus, such as radioactive decay)
3. Gravity (attraction between masses)
4. Electromagnetic force (which governs interactions of charged particles)

For theology, you need to design a universe that meets all of God's requirements:

1. Your universe must allow for the existence of sentient creatures.
2. These sentient creatures must have the ability to make moral choices.
3. Your universe must operate by physical laws that are reliable, so that the sentient creatures will be able to interact reliably with their surroundings and each other.
4. Your universe must declare your power and glory.

http://www.godandscience.org/apologe...ndobetter.html

[RD2191]

[Clipper Nation]

Not agreeing that an invisible sky man invented the universe =/= thinking the universe is "unacceptable"

[2pac > Kobe]

Not agreeing that an invisible sky man invented the universe =/= thinking the universe is "unacceptable"

design a better universe pussy

[The Reckoning]

sugar, heroin, ecstasy and cocaine are actually good for me

i never have to work and have unlimited spending capabilities

i have first pick on all women

my "job" is to inseminate as many women at my leisure as possible

[DMC]

Trayvon is still alive

[ohmwrecker]

[DMC]

The ironic thing about that practice is that, had the guy poured out the drink instead of drinking it, he'd probably still be alive.

[ohmwrecker]

The ironic thing about that practice is that, had the guy poured out the drink instead of drinking it, he'd probably still be alive.

Who?

[m>s]

The dead person theyre pouring it out for idiot

[ChumpDumper]

For theology, you need to design a universe that meets all of God's requirements:

1. Your universe must allow for the existence of sentient creatures.
2. These sentient creatures must have the ability to make moral choices.
3. Your universe must operate by physical laws that are reliable, so that the sentient creatures will be able to interact reliably with their surroundings and each other.
4. Your universe must declare your power and glory.

http://www.godandscience.org/apologe...ndobetter.html

From a theological standpoint, I would pass on the universe's declaring my power and glory. God is pretty damn insecure tbh.

[Koolaid_Man]

From a theological standpoint, I would pass on the universe's declaring my power and glory. God is pretty damn insecure tbh.

Finite Brain..Finite thoughts!!!

Life is love....therefore God is Love for sharing it with us...I bow before the almighty....

[exstatic]

Not agreeing that an invisible sky man invented the universe =/= thinking the universe is "unacceptable"

[ChumpDumper]

Finite Brain..Finite thoughts!!!

Life is love....therefore God is Love for sharing it with us...I bow before the almighty....

You better, or he will kill you.

Or he just might kill you anyway. Eventually he definitely will.

[Koolaid_Man]

You better, or he will kill you.

Or he just might kill you anyway. Eventually he definitely will.

then he will resurrect me to eternal glory

[Katherine Robinson]

Are you afraid maggots will skull you after you die, Kevin? Just request cremation.

[silverblk mystix]

You cannot improve on perfection.

The universe is perfect already.

No one knows and no one will ever know who created it and it does not even matter. You are surrounded by perfection and all you know how to do is sit there and argue about it and try to fix what does not need fixing.

All is well.

[Koolaid_Man]

if Jesus can be tortured and die for our sins then why can't I...

[mouse]

The dead person theyre pouring it out for idiot

[Koolaid_Man]

Are you afraid maggots will skull you after you die, Kevin? Just request cremation.

I welcome them to feast on Kool's corpse as my spirit has nothing to do with my body...my spirit right now is what I cherish..my body is just a s ...a temporary physical conduit on the pathway to eternal life

[ChumpDumper]

then he will resurrect me to eternal glory

Maybe not.

You might not have done everything he wants.

[mouse]

if Jesus can be tortured and die for our sins then why can't I...

Your mother wasn't a Virgin?

[Koolaid_Man]

M>S is a Christian and yet he wants to kill all blacks...God has a special chamber for this guy...it's ironic though that he's even a believer in the minority Jesus

[Koolaid_Man]

Maybe not.

You might not have done everything he wants.

Perhaps but Jesus did die for our sins and since I'm imperfect I qualify for that mercy

[Koolaid_Man]

Your mother wasn't a Virgin?

at some point she was