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lol pom poms
Let me hear you sing it!
lol pom poms
I thought songs like this were Blue team style:
What is WC saying about Loverboy?
Is he just going by the band's name?
Yay! Blue team wins at being the same as red team!!lol
I like you cheer...Drone Drone Drone DroneYay! Blue team wins at being the same as red team!!
This pretty much sums up both Blue Team and Red team.
Much like Queen, it will take an AIDS-riddled up the ass for you to finally go awayLet me hear you sing it!
perfect with the screencap of Freddie Mercury
at celebrating Team Blue "winning" another typical round of political posturing while being exactly the same as Team Red
False equivalence, but typical for you right-wing dumb s who flatter yourself with your spurious insights.
Actually, Kock Bros and other 1%/VRWC anti-govt assholes have been winning, won, and will continue to win, even if their proxies in Congress lost this time, by blocking any real governance, by distracting Congress from real business, while the Kock Bros, etc remain free from exposure and condemnation.
Such bull is unstoppable, and extremely cheap for the Kocks, etc to finance, indefinitely.
Last edited by boutons_deux; 10-17-2013 at 08:34 AM.
OBAMA DECLARES NATIONAL DAY OF GLOATING
WASHINGTON —Residents of the District of Columbia were roused from their sleep by a massive fireworks display over the White House just after midnight, as President Obama declared what he called “a national day of gloating.”
“It would not be productive for this nation, going forward, to crow about our victory over political adversaries,” he said in a nationally televised address. “So let’s get it all out of our systems today.”
Immediately after the President’s speech, loudspeakers outside the White House blasted “We Are the Champions,” and the national day of gloating began.
In addition to a ticker-tape parade, the day’s events will include a screening on the Mall of a clip reel of Texas Senator Ted Cruz’s marathon Senate speech, punctuated by sad trombone sounds.
“Starting tomorrow, my message to the Republicans is, ‘Let’s work together for the American people,’ ” said Obama, wearing what appeared to be a beer hat. “But today my message is, ‘We won, az.’ ”
http://www.newyorker.com/online/blog...rowitz%20(184)
"False equivalence"
You're a predictable partisan shill, tbh.... you rightfully blame the GOP for their corruption and bad ideas, but then when the Democrats up, you attribute it to some huge unstoppable force that not even the president can stop
In reality, both parties love to keep bloating the government to insane levels, trampling on our liberties, dragging us into never-ending wars abroad, and using meaningless wedge issues to fool gullible partisan hacks such as yourself while they do all the same ....
true bull .
You're a predictable partisan shill, tbh.... you rightfully blame the GOP for their corruption and bad ideas, but then when the Democrats up, you attribute it to some huge unstoppable force that not even the president can stop
When I say the crap is unstoppable, it's unstoppable BY ANYBODY, BY ANY PARTY.
the Dems up passively, except this week, the Repugs up intentionally, willfully, esp now that the tea baggers and Cruz control the Repug Congress.
you confuse my vehement attacks and resistance, always justified on the Repugs, for an equally vehement support of the Dems, but you're stupid, so that figures. The Dems at least try to govern (ACA, EPA, etc) while the Repugs absolutely want to misgovern or at best NOT govern. HUGE difference.
lol resistance
...except when a "Repug" is President, then you give them the kind of agency for the poor decisions they make that you refuse to give to Obama
Complete gibberish per par, you either up or you don't, and both parties do the former way more often than the latter....the Dems up passively, except this week, the Repugs up intentionally, willfully, esp now that the tea baggers and Cruz control the Repug Congress.
you confuse my vehement attacks and resistance, always justified on the Repugs, for an equally vehement support of the Dems, but you're stupid, so that figures.Riiiight, you don't support the Dems, it's just a coincidence that you'll reach for any excuse when they screw up.... lol message board "resistance"
Anyone you know who has the gall to call this a "victory" is an idiot. Aside from the actual pain this thing caused is the fact that all the Democrats won in the end is a few months of government, and a few months of not looking economic Armageddon in the teeth. The GOP just got a budget CR that operates at the sequestration level they set the last time we spun this Merry-Go-Round, and a faction of their party will try this hostage-taking thing again after the New Year to get even more. Of course they will.
This was a zero-sum gain, and a lot of people lost, badly. It was a nifty exercise in disaster capitalism, more proof of the power of the shock doctrine, and nothing more. Whoever tries to tell you otherwise is selling something.
Finally, anyone who says this mess spells the end of the Tea Party phenomenon is fooling themselves. If anything, the re-branded right-wing created by the Koch Brothers and pimped by CNN will greet the dawn on Thursday morning re-invested in the idea that Jesus hates the poor, women and all brown people, just goddamn because. They see themselves as victims even when they win. Ted Cruz, Sarah Palin and the rest of the sharpies will be there to egg them on and pick their pockets. Mark my words: these people have learned no lessons, ceded no ground, and are not going anywhere anytime soon.
Also, there is there is still the Trans-Pacific Partnership to contend with, plus Chained CPI and Medicare means testing (both of which Mr. Obama floated not long ago, which will make an appearance in the budget debate, count on it), plus the Keystone XL pipeline, plus the ongoing voter restriction efforts, plus the all-important 2014 midterm elections, plus, and plus, and plus, and plus, etc.
Take this to heart, friends and neighbors: rust never sleeps, and there is never, ever any rest for the weary.
http://truth-out.org/opinion/item/19...t-never-sleeps
You’ll Pay for This, GOP
“There are no winners here,” President Obama declared at the White House this morning. Then, with an elegant air of nonpartisanship, Obama began to fashion the shutdown into a political weapon. Here’s how he’s going to deploy it.
1. Economic excuse. Obama noted that before the shutdown, the economy was recovering, and the deficit was falling. The fiscal standoff changed all that: “Every analyst out there believes it slowed our growth.” Obama rattled off the damage: families going without paychecks, home buyers and small businesses unable to get loans, consumers cutting back on spending, CEOs reporting that the fiscal anxiety had “set back their plans to hire over the next six months.” Even the “threat of default,” said the president, “increased our borrowing costs, which adds to our deficit.”
Today, this litany of laments looked like simple compassion from the president. But over the next year, it can serve as an excuse. If economic growth or deficit reduction isn’t where we’d like it to be, Obama can blame the shortfall on the “Republican shutdown” or the “Tea Party shutdown.” He’d be following in the footsteps of his predecessor, who spent three years after Sept. 11, 2001, blaming economic disappointment on the damage done when “the enemy hit us.”
2. Republican downgrade. Two years ago, when Standard and Poor’s downgraded the government’s credit rating, it cited our high deficits as well as the 2011 debt ceiling standoff. Ever since, Republicans have argued that the deficits, not the standoff, caused the downgrade. This time, we haven’t been downgraded, but we’ve been put on a credit watch by Fitch, another ratings agency. And this time, there’s no ballooning deficit. Obama wants to make that difference stick. He wants the downgrade threat of 2013 to reinforce the Democrats’ narrative about the downgrade of 2011. “The agency that put America’s credit rating on watch the other day explicitly cited” the congressional standoff, Obama pointed out. The Fitch report, he went on, said that “our economy remains more dynamic and resilient than other advanced economies and that the only thing putting us at risk is—and I’m quoting here—‘repeated brinkmanship.’ ” “That wasn’t a political statement,” Obama added, politicizing the statement.
3. National security. Even after killing Osama Bin Laden, Obama is constantly accused of weakness. No matter what he does in Iran, Egypt, Libya, or Syria, the old portrait of the Democratic president as soft on foreign policy never goes away. What usually helps Democrats in this area is economics. Their devotion to American labor at the expense of free trade comes across as tough on foreigners. But the fiscal showdowns of 2011 and 2013 could add a new twist. This morning, Obama reported that U.S. diplomats have
been hearing from their counterparts internationally. Some of the same folks who pushed for the shutdown and threatened default claim their actions were needed to get America back on the right track, to make sure we’re strong. But probably nothing has done more damage to America’s credibility in the world, our standing with other countries, than the spectacle we’ve seen these past several weeks. It’s encouraged our enemies. It’s emboldened our compe ors. And it’s depressed our friends who look to us for steady leadership.
If Republicans stage another big fight over the next debt ceiling, that would be three in a row. It might facilitate a significant political development: the transformation of debt payment into a national security issue. Republicans could become the deadbeat party. Obama seems quite willing to attack them from this angle. And in framing economics as the key to American power, he has reality on his side.
4. The value of government. What happened in 1995 and 1996 has happened again: Closing the government has made Americans miss it. In his remarks today, Obama proposed,
One of the things that I hope all of us have learned these past few weeks is that it turns out smart, effective government is important. It matters. I think the American people, during this shutdown, had a chance to get some idea of all the things, large and small, that government does that make a difference in people’s lives. You know, we hear all the time about how government is the problem. Well, it turns out we rely on it in a whole lot of ways. Not only does it keep us strong through our military and our law enforcement—it plays a vital role in caring for our seniors and our veterans, educating our kids, making sure our workers are trained for the jobs that are being created, arming our businesses with the best science and technology so they can compete with companies from other countries. It plays a key role in keeping our food and our toys and our workplaces safe. It helps folks rebuild after a storm. It conserves our natural resources. It finances startups. It helps to sell our products overseas. It provides security to our diplomats abroad. So let’s work together to make government work better, instead of treating it like an enemy.
Congratulations, Tea Party. In the midst of Obamacare’s glitch-ridden debut, you did the one thing that could make us love our government: You took it away and held it hostage. Don’t expect any thanks from the president you helped.
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_a...n_against.html
the 2011 showdown certainly didn't help the Repugs in 2012 campaign.
I figure the Dems could really really the Repugs hard in the 2014 campaign, and then marginalize them in the 2016 campaign.
No surprise if the Repugs shutdown the govt again in Jan, nor a surprise if the Dems "refuse to negotiate"
Blue team really does deserve props though for standing up to the Tea Baggers. We always think of Blue Team as weak, but they were strong for a change here. It's like when people called the Spurs soft until they won a championship.
Even When the GOP Loses, It Wins
Think the Senate deal is a resounding defeat for Republicans? Think again.
But in the war of ideas, the Senate deal is but a stalemate, one made almost entirely on conservative terms. The GOP now goes into budget talks with sequestration as the new baseline, primed to demand longer-term cuts in Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security. And they still hold the gun of a US default to the nation’s head in the next debt ceiling showdown.
? Now the Republicans’ “surrender” locks in that sequester while pushing for further reductions to basic safety net programs—all while tax increases remain off the table and the threat of default is still pointed at the country’s head. Tea Party zealots may have lost their bid to torpedo healthcare reform, but the right continues to set the terms of the debate.
The GOP may be bearing the brunt of the public’s rage, but anger is also directed at Washington and government generally. Nearly eight in ten say the country is seriously off-track. The Tea Party may be plummeting in public esteem, but it is taking government down with it. There is simply no way to rebuild widely shared prosperity without a government with a clear strategy in the global economy. There is no way to make needed public investments and temper the extreme inequality that threatens our democracy without progressive tax reform. The terms of the Republican “surrender” take us in the wrong direction.
http://www.thenation.com/article/176...l=emailNation#
lol message board resistance. it's like '68 paris in here
Sharing of ideas is a powerful thing. I started writing freshman congresspersons inspired by this place. Think I am going to start writing the losers as well encouraging them to seek 3rd party avenues too.
Just because you see your actions as inconsequential doesn't mean the rest of us have to. You cannot make a difference if you don't try much less win.
lol, congresspersons
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