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    Loving every minute of it!!!!!! Obama Playing Hard-Ball Now!!!! Bout Time


    http://www.newrepublic.com/article/1...publican-party

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    1 down, now the other to go

    get ready for the takeover, gonna slave whip the out of you on your way out the door

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    I read that last night. It's an excellent article that goes through specifics in the people and groups and involved. Just really good journalism. TNR is having a bit of a renaissance and I am enjoying it. I reupped my sub and have it in the rotation.

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    Loving every minute of it!!!!!! Obama Playing Hard-Ball Now!!!! Bout Time

    http://www.newrepublic.com/article/1...publican-party
    Tea Partiers React With Fury To World They Can’t Control

    When Barack Obama was elected president in 2008, many pundits and political observers were eager to expunge the nation’s brutal and long-running history of stark racial oppression. They spoke of a “post-racial” society freed from the divisions of tribe, healed of the deep wounds that ached and bled along the color line for centuries.

    Even those who were less sanguine about the disappearance of racism — myself included — believed that the election of the nation’s first black president signaled a new era of greater racial harmony and understanding. Surely, a nation ready to be led by a black man was ready to let go many of its oldest and ugliest prejudices.


    But that was a very naive notion. It turns out that Obama’s election has, instead, provoked a new civil war, a last battle cry of secession by a group of voters who want no part of a country led by a black man, no place in a world they don’t rule, no home in a society where they are simply one more minority group. Call those folks “Tea Partiers.”


    The ultraconservatives who have taken over the Republican Party are motivated by many things — antipathy toward the federal government, conservative religious beliefs and a traditional Republican su ion of taxes, among them.

    But the most powerful force animating their fight is a deep-seated racial antagonism.


    Don’t take my word for it. Democracy Corps, a political research and polling group headed by Stanley Greenberg and James Carville, has published a report from a series of focus groups conducted with segments of the Republican Party — moderates, evangelicals and Tea Partiers.


    The report confirms that Republicans, especially the Tea Partiers, “are very conscious of being white in a country that is increasingly minority. The race issue is very much alive.” It also notes that “Barack Obama and Obamacare is a racial flashpoint for many evangelical and Tea Party voters.”

    http://www.nationalmemo.com/tea-part...-cant-control/


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    i'll openly admit that i won't be a minority in my own damn country. that's why we're going to fix this boutons, and you and your kind aren't prepared for the repercussions of trying to stop us. You're out gunned, out witted, out prepared, and lack the fighting spirit. you'll blog and cry online as we seize back cities until yours is reached, door is kicked in and you're dragged off to the communist prisons or death camps.

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    secession will only be a stalling tool to buy time for us to militarize and come back to seize the rest of the american territory

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    They would love you in Leavenworth, fascist.

    And 'your country' was destroyed in 1945. You have no home anymore.

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    i'll openly admit that i won't be a minority in my own damn country. that's why we're going to fix this boutons, and you and your kind aren't prepared for the repercussions of trying to stop us. You're out gunned, out witted, out prepared, and lack the fighting spirit. you'll blog and cry online as we seize back cities until yours is reached, door is kicked in and you're dragged off to the communist prisons or death camps.
    naahh we gone make it easy....^ Taliban? Tealiban? same name, same style, same dress, same re edness, same stench, same outcome that was easy!!!









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    GOP Congressman Rips Tea Party Colleagues: 'I'm Not Sure They're Republicans'
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    In a sign of the internal backlash against the right wing of the House Republican Conference, Louisiana Republican Charles Boustany questioned the political allegiances and motivations of his tea party-aligned colleagues and said they had put the GOP majority at risk in the current shutdown fight.

    "There are members with a different agenda," Boustany said Wednesday in an interview in his office. "And I'm not sure they're Republicans and I'm not sure they're conservative."

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    Boustany, a former surgeon who is not known as the most outspoken GOP member, said he fears his party's inability to rule the chamber with its own majority is threatening its hold on the House.

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    Only a handful of House Republicans have spoken out publicly against the hardline faction of the House GOP, but Boustany said the shutdown had grown their numbers. "There is a very large silent majority that's getting frustrated with what's happening because of what these outside groups have done by setting false expectations, deliberately misleading the public on some of these issues and commanding allegiance of certain members who falsely place their allegiance to these groups rather than to their cons utional responsibility to govern," he said.
    Read more: http://www.nationaljournal.com/congr...icans-20131016

    Let the Tea Party get pissed at the GOPers and the GOPers go nuclear on the Tea Party. I think a split is coming; this relationship between the old guard and new guard Republicans is untenable. One side believes in trickle-down economics, creating the best possible environments, for big business to grow (in terms of deregulation, limited taxation, and doing away with anti-monopoly laws, etc). The OG Republicans used the Christian Coalition because they knew these rubes would vote for them based solely on "family values" which is cheap and, a lot of these fundies are not generally selfish people... they are okay with voting against their own best self interests if they think it's the moral thing to do--this is what a lot of Progressives don't get. They're misguided and they're hurting a lot more people than just themselves voting for Reps, but, there you have it... they're not SMART. And now, the worst case scenario for the OG has taken place: these rubes they cultivated to gain seats and presidencies for their own agenda have assumed a place in office and draped themselves with the flag of the GOP.

    These people are insane, illiterate, phobic, misogynistic, fundamentalist doomseers who will do anything to get their way. I think the OG thought they could be controled. Now they've discovered that they can't. They'll expel the Tea Party, I have no doubt. They know they'll split the vote in the short term, but in the long term it will be better for their corporate overlords, and that's what they really care about.

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    As long as TX, FL, AZ, etc keep gerrymandering districts, I don't see how they can stop these types of candidates from primarying in those districts. I think it's funny that their travesty to democracy is giving them a big sandwich but they made that bed.

    All this speaks to is a need for a new way of determining state reps.

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    i'll openly admit that i won't be a minority in my own damn country. that's why we're going to fix this boutons, and you and your kind aren't prepared for the repercussions of trying to stop us. You're out gunned, out witted, out prepared, and lack the fighting spirit. you'll blog and cry online as we seize back cities until yours is reached, door is kicked in and you're dragged off to the communist prisons or death camps.
    That WWII German Black bread you are still eating has hallucinogenic fungus growing on it.

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    Again, I thank you poor millenials for paying for my mom's health care.

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    Again, I thank you poor millenials for paying for my mom's health care.
    It's looking more and more like millenials will be paying the fine. But thank you for being a slimy bag.

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    It's looking more and more like millenials will be paying the fine. But thank you for being a slimy bag.
    I hope most of you do that, because it will throw ACA into a death spiral.

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    I hope most of you do that, because it will throw ACA into a death spiral.
    Why? It just will mean that the insurance companies are going to have issues with their bottomline. I have no idea of their margins or the like and I doubt you do either.

    It's certainly not going to effect the medicare expansion funding for example. To the contrary if the treasury collects the fine then it just menas more money for the treasury.

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    Why? It just will mean that the insurance companies are going to have issues with their bottomline. I have no idea of their margins or the like and I doubt you do either.

    It's certainly not going to effect the medicare expansion funding for example. To the contrary if the treasury collects the fine then it just menas more money for the treasury.
    Adverse selection death spiral -- look into it

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    Adverse selection death spiral -- look into it
    Underwriting guidelines of the ACA -- look into it and try and compare contrast with what you are getting at.

    Look into what risk categories are allowed and look into cost sharing limits associated therein. Then I want you to look into the relationship between supply demand and cost. Consider how all of that relates and then think about what I mean when I say "It just will mean that the insurance companies are going to have issues with their bottomline."

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    The mainstream media should take some notes on how journalism works, rather than simply pushing the lazy both sides are at fault false equivalency. This is a nice story of how the Republican establishment helped create a machine that they could not end up controlling, and which almost destroyed the country with folks clinging to a delusional ideology, funded by millions of untraceable money, crafted in the echo chamber of hate media.
    http://www.rollingstone.com/politics...chine-20131009

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    I don't buy all this hyperbole. Used to hear the same about the Democrats when the senate blue dogs sabotaged any chance of getting a decent healthcare bill.

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    I don't buy all this hyperbole. Used to hear the same about the Democrats when the senate blue dogs sabotaged any chance of getting a decent healthcare bill.
    Only reason why I give it credence is because the Chamber of Commerce and most business lobby's are pissed as . If they start looking elsewhere then the GOP is pretty ed.

    You make an excellent point nonetheless. It speaks very much how party central authority is eroding. That is an excellent thing in my view.

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    Only reason why I give it credence is because the Chamber of Commerce and most business lobby's are pissed as . If they start looking elsewhere then the GOP is pretty ed.

    You make an excellent point nonetheless. It speaks very much how party central authority is eroding. That is an excellent thing in my view.
    I doubt they are pissed -- Obama delayed the employer mandate. You and your fellow Obamabots? Not so much

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    I doubt they are pissed -- Obama delayed the employer mandate. You and your fellow Obamabots? Not so much
    It's like this that makes me so hostile to you. I have never voted for Obama and outlined why I do not like the Chicago politician.

    The CoC et al for the past two weeks has been trying to get the GOP to take steps to stop the shenanigans. Apparently they have been heard because the shenanigans did stop.

    However, if I am one of them I have to wonder whether or not going forward I would continue to be represented by the GOP. Who is to say that some antiestablishment type won't be put up on the speakers chair? They did try to usurp Beohner recently and it is abundantly obvious that their interests do not align with the tea party. The tea party is much more than half a dozen southern democrats.

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    I hope most of you do that, because it will throw ACA into a death spiral.
    Good.

    Then we can work on a real universal system.

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    The Irony is that it was the Gerrymander effort in deeply red states that has facilitated the rise of the Tea Party and made the "moderate" Republicans vulnerable to primary challenges from the extreme right.

    "Moderate" Republicans were able to win majorities in certain states by running against Liberals. In their greed to ensure they NEVER lost, they turned extreme right-wingers into viable candidates.

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    FreedomWorks chief Matt Kibbe said Friday said that divisions on the right could cause the Republican Party to split in two.

    During an apperance on CSPAN, the tea party leader responded to a piece in The Washington Times indcating that some "prominent Republicans are saying that if the GOP loses the 2016 presidential elections, the party will go the way of the Whigs — or formally split into a moderate party and a conservative party."

    "I think that's a real possibility because you're seeing this clash between the new generation and — to me, it's not just the old wing of the Republican Party versus the new wing —you're really seeing a disintermediation in politics. It's already happened with the Democratic Party," Kibbe said. "It's happening with the Republican Party now. And grassroots activists have an ability to self-organize, to fund candidates they're more interested in, going right around the Republican National Committee and senatorial committee."

    "That's the new reality," he continued. "Everything's more democratized and Republicans should come to terms with that. They still wanna control things from the top down and if they do that, there will absolutely be a split. But my prediction would be that we take over the Republican Party and they go the way of the whigs."

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    Read more: http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewir...-splits-in-two

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