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Without Tim we win zero. Can you say the same without Manu? no.
That's not even a balanced poll as it is skewed negative.
Epic fail bag.
Less than we have with him (0-2)
The same amount. (3)
More than we have with him now
Seriously? The quote above is so f*cking stupid
not realizing Manu was arguably the 2005 finals MVP
How many les would we win without Manu?
Without Tim we win zero. Can you say the same without Manu? no.
That's not even a balanced poll as it is skewed negative.
Epic fail bag.
Just 1999 & 2003
Without Tim we win zero. Can you say the same without Manu? no.
That's not even a balanced poll as it is skewed negative.
Epic fail bag.
Too many different factors to add... Would Spurs have kept Barbosa, Scola, etc. without Manu's contract? I'd like to think they could have at least won 03 without Manu. And given Spurs' development staff, I wouldn't be surprised if they could have turned someone like Granger. Josh Howard, or Bellinelli to a true stud (Had they had them their whole career.)
My answer is at least 1. Not so sure about 2, 2013 is really debatable because Manu hit the huge three against Golden State. But 1 would be my answer
1 - 99'
IMO This question is more complex than people make it sound like. Had Spurs not gotten a good wing player, would they have just drafted Josh Howard? I think Howard would have been good enough to win a le in 07. There's so many factors than us just taking Manu off the team.
Don't get me wrong.. I'd take Manu over Howard any day. But this really is too complicated
Without Tim we win zero. Can you say the same without Manu? no.
That's not even a balanced poll as it is skewed negative.
Epic fail bag.
Not that I'm shocked irrational haters/2013 bandwagon fans/TGY minions such as yourself would try to spin a thread into something it has nothing to do with...
Would have lost 05
Would have won 13
probably would have got 03 without him...... and 07 was a cake walk..... but he was the man in 05.....
Doubt we'd have seen the 13 finals at all without him.
'99 of course
'03 arguably
None of the others. Richard Jefferson is what the FO would've done with Manu's cap space all those years.
Go read the original thread moron.
Not that I'm shocked irrational haters/2013 bandwagon fans/TGY minions such as yourself would try to spin a thread into something it has nothing to do with...
This clown keeps saying Manu won three les. BS. He helped. Someone else could have, too, in his place--the possible exception being 2005.
Without Tim, Manu doesn't win jack squat!!! Tim is irreplaceable. The same cannot be said of the human turnover bonanza.
Umm WTF? What the kind of logic is this? I guess while you're at it you should also say the Admiral, Bowen, Parker, Pop, and Avery Johnson (just to name a few) didn't win any les either. They were just little helpers.
Seriously WTF? This might be once of the dumbest tangents I've ever heard from a 2013 bandwagon Spurs fan. I'm sure if you ask Timmy he'll say Manu was a fellow WINNER of 3 of his les, not simply a helper.
Could have lost to the Warriors, though
Might have not won game 5, and may not have been quite as close in game 7, despite his turnovers.
Four les, three with Manu, one more coming.
Odd, the poll sure shows the truth and not BS.
I wonder why.
Manu's performance in game 5 of he finals was incredible. I will never forget being at that game with the whole arena chanting Manu.
Actually, he's right. Duncan has always been the most important player on the team during every championship run. Manu, until 2012, was always a pretty good playoff performer. Not star level like Timmy but good. 2005 was definitely an aberration though. Played way over his head and never reached that level again. From 2012 on, he's been an overpaid role player. Very disappointing in the 2012 playoffs. Flat-out sucked last year...despite being the highest paid player on the team and having the most rest of any of the guys on SA"s roster(spent a good portion of the season healing on company time after playing his best ball for Argentina).
if he doesn't make the game winner against the warriors, do we pass the 2nd round, tbh?
if not for his game 5 in the finals, are we even up 3-2 going into game 6?
I disagree pretty strongly. Last year was the first playoffs I've seen where Manu's presence was a net negative on the court.
Citing the gamewinner against GS doesn't erase the terrible shot he took less than 30 seconds before, which made the gamewinner necessary in the first place.
He didn't significantly contribute in a positive manner except for 1 game against Miami and and 1 shot against Golden State.
The Spurs make the finals with or without Manu. That said, they also lose the finals with or without him as well. Miami was just, ultimately, too good. Too many clutch shooters. Too much Lebron James. Too much wealth of talent. Manu's turnovers were costly, but it was Miami who reached out and grabbed those games.
2 probably...... 99 and 03 but looking back at 03 he hit some big ass shots in that run and some key shots in the finals too! I remember key game 3 he hit a huge shot at the end. Manu is the man.
03 MAYBE NOT, not just Jax with a barrage of threes and big shots, Manu was there throughout that run with some big shots and steals etc. IN 03 Manu can through in key moments in those playoffs, look at the DVD again or box scores, Manu had a barrage of threes with Jax in some games and just key moments like NJ game three where he hit a HUGE SHOT TO CLINCH the game! I remember game 6 Dallas too, his layup earlier in the 4th and his three in that Q sparked a run too! He was made slept on in 03 but he came through as a winner since day one.
Because the 14M cap space would not have bring a better player than 13' Manu ?
With a 10-15M player instead of Manu in 09', maybe 12' and for sure 13' we would have had a better chance at winning it all
surely wouldn't have won in '05.
you can make a case for '13 but thats not certain.
that leaves us with 2,5 ships
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