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    The dates, back when Nebraska Man was real.
    This is, actually another logical fallacy, by the way.

    http://www.nizkor.org/features/falla...-ridicule.html

    I won't bother outlining them anymore, but I will point them out as you make them. You can see for yourself how you are committing them.

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    So subspecies at best, but no new species correct?
    Nope, all new species.

    As noted in my previous post though, the concept of "species" in and of itself is a complex one.

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    If evolution is real, how come I can't understand it?

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    Where are all of the present day studies?
    I am very glad you asked. I will get to the more recent stuff shortly, the first list was simply to be as comprehensive as possible.

    Some of it is very interesting, and exciting, IMO. Patience, padawan.

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    I am very glad you asked. I will get to the more recent stuff shortly, the first list was simply to be as comprehensive as possible.

    Some of it is very interesting, and exciting, IMO. Patience, padawan.
    Man, RG, this is some pretty comprehensive . You've really done your homework on this subject.
    I commend you!

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    You didn't watch that.

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    Be back in a bit gonna watch the game

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    http://mentalfloss.com/article/30795...still-evolving

    5 Signs Humans Are Still Evolving
    '
    That is short of the tip of the iceberg when it comes to humans. Genetics has outlined some very fascinating other aspects of our recent genetic movement.

    Evolution explains the following about observed human genetic groupings:


    Modern European resistance to AIDS
    http://qjmed.oxfordjournals.org/content/99/8/497.full

    The natural selection of the black death in Europe left that population with genes that coincidentally can resist AIDS.



    Europeans also can drink milk, and tolerate alchohol to a much greater degree than other populations, both aspect

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    You didn't watch that.
    Probably not.

    He didn't watch the foundational flaws of creationism either.

    http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLF5F8871638AC52CC

    Some of it is a bit preachy and pointed, but it is chock full of solid science.

    Weighing in at a grand 3 hours, I doubt most would bother.

    I have gone through most of it, but mostly because I put it on as background while I game.

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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dm277H3ot6Y

    That is the one that deals with the "we haven't observed evolution" bull .

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    Wow... dude talks fast, and it is only ten minutes long, but wow... a lot of information there. just finished listening.
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    The legless lizards of LAX
    October 2013

    http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolib...leglesslizards

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    http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolib...0501_superbugs


    Antibiotic resistant bacteria at the meat counter
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    Probably not.

    He didn't watch the foundational flaws of creationism either.

    http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLF5F8871638AC52CC

    Some of it is a bit preachy and pointed, but it is chock full of solid science.

    Weighing in at a grand 3 hours, I doubt most would bother.j

    I have gone through most of it, but mostly because I put it on as background while I game.
    More than most would take the time to bother with. I've noticed most just rather trash talk, than attempt to educate.
    And that is probably apropos considering the great majority here just like to ridicule.
    But it is rather impressive. I will only go so far and then just wash my hands of it because why waste time if someone really doesn't give a ?
    Again it is commendable.

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    Acidic oceans prompt evolution
    October 2012

    http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolib...1_acidicoceans

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    Most people balk when they see someone has done his homework.

    Here, 9/11 threads, climate change, etc.

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    More than most would take the time to bother with. I've noticed most just rather trash talk, than attempt to educate.
    And that is probably apropos considering the great majority here just like to ridicule.
    But it is rather impressive. I will only go so far and then just wash my hands of it because why waste time if someone really doesn't give a ?
    Again it is commendable.
    Yeah, you have to sift through it to get the science. That is pretty solid.

    He does tear creationism apart extremely thoroughly for the intellectually dishonest, ignorant mass of assertions and ideas that it is.

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    Yeah, you have to sift through it to get the science. That is pretty solid.

    He does tear creationism apart extremely thoroughly for the intellectually dishonest, ignorant mass of assertions and ideas that it is.
    To tear apart any theory is a task, much less creation theory, but still you have to have your together.

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    robdiaz is mouse-tier when it comes to debating. He'll throw to the wall to see if it sticks over and over again. He won't even pretend to read or understand his opponent's responses.

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    Man, RG, this is some pretty comprehensive . You've really done your homework on this subject.
    I commend you!
    Thanks.

    I read a lot on it.

    I got to sit in once or twice when my wife was taking a genetics class and really learned a lot about the mechanics of mutation and how that works to drive evolution. Hard to follow, and I had to chunk through her textbooks, but hey... a hobby is a hobby.

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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TkY7...F8871638AC52CC

    Good definition of "science" at 5:18 mark, and the chunks after that deal with how to tell what is true and what is not, and why we should care.

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    To tear apart any theory is a task, much less creation theory, but still you have to have your together.
    That dude does. It is very, very thorough.

    http://www.answersingenesis.org/about/faith

    By definition, no apparent, perceived or claimed evidence in any field, including history and chronology, can be valid if it contradicts the scriptural record.

    They cannot, by definition, accept any evidence that contradicts their worldview.

    That is not what anyone would call an "open" mind, is it?

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    Thanks.

    I read a lot on it.

    I got to sit in once or twice when my wife was taking a genetics class and really learned a lot about the mechanics of mutation and how that works to drive evolution. Hard to follow, and I had to chunk through her textbooks, but hey... a hobby is a hobby.
    Yes, we all have our hobbies. Mine as you have probably read has been to study most of the great and not so great religions and faiths. It has made me pretty unorthodox in my beliefs especially with my background in physics. It is probably a carry over from my minor in philosophy and because I was raised a Catholic. However I found it ironic to be criticized for cherry picking the bible by a self proclaimed atheist. I would have expected that from another Christian.
    Go figure!
    Being a musician probably has nothing to do with it. Noooooo!
    But that part allows me to approach things with an open mind.
    It also allows me to criticize my own follies and as Pop says, not take myself too seriously for my own good.
    Having worn many hats while paying my way through college including a stint as a stand up comic, I dearly love everything with a healthy dose of humor.

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    Yes, we all have our hobbies. Mine as you have probably read has been to study most of the great and not so great religions and faiths. It has made me pretty unorthodox in my beliefs especially with my background in physics. It is probably a carry over from my minor in philosophy and because I was raised a Catholic. However I found it ironic to be criticized for cherry picking the bible by a self proclaimed atheist. I would have expected that from another Christian.
    Go figure!
    Being a musician probably has nothing to do with it. Noooooo!
    But that part allows me to approach things with an open mind.
    It also allows me to criticize my own follies and as Pop says, not take myself too seriously for my own good.
    Having worn many hats while paying my way through college including a stint as a stand up comic, I dearly love everything with a healthy dose of humor.
    Well I was never really raised with much religion. I decided to give it a shot in my 20's, then really found it to be silly. In the last year I really took another look at the whole thing and really decided I belonged in the atheist camp. I feel like a weight has been lifted. I allow for the possibility that there may be some God out there, but am 100% sure it is not the God/Allah/Jehovah thing.

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    Well I was never really raised with much religion. I decided to give it a shot in my 20's, then really found it to be silly. In the last year I really took another look at the whole thing and really decided I belonged in the atheist camp. I feel like a weight has been lifted. I allow for the possibility that there may be some God out there, but am 100% sure it is not the God/Allah/Jehovah thing.
    Actually I think you are a lot closer to the truth than maybe you give yourself credit for. I don't consider myself religious either, rather spiritual is a better definition for me.
    But to each his or her own. I do believe in God, but I try my best not to be led astray by modern day witch doctors, if you catch my drift.

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