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No, it's TS:CR. You need a colon not a semi-colon sh-thead. And it is, "Too STUPID: CAN'T Read" in your case.
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No, it's TS:CR. You need a colon not a semi-colon sh-thead. And it is, "Too STUPID: CAN'T Read" in your case.
"nobody fallz for dat stepback jumpurz anymoreeee"
only on lebron, durant, rose, etc...
Obviously can't read. I said we would have 4-6 NBA Rings without Manu. 1999, 2003, 2007 for sure. I will throw in 2006 and/or 2013 as well. That's four or five. 2005, maybe. That's five or six. No need for Manu in any of them EXCEPT maybe 2005. Depends on what we used in his place. The only irreplaceable people on our championships are Tim and Tony, and maybe Bruce. Period.tl;dr
this NEVER gets old
please, tell me next that Manu wasn't significant in 05!
then tell me how Manu could have easily been replaced by Devin Brown, R-Jefferson, or Brent Barry LOL
So right now you would trust him with the ball to create something on the offensive end against an elite defense like Miami, Indiana, Chicago and to some extent the thunder in the playoffs? The last two post seasons he has struggled creating shots for himself and others while turning the ball over. Yes he will have good games in the regular season and hit a few game winners. The guy is a clutch shooter but the question is how will he play against those playoff teams that focus on taking away that part of his game.
Right now all he really needs to do is produce 1 or 2 good games in a seven game series and keep the turnovers at a minimum. That's if he still continues to play in the same role as before. The ideal role for him at this point of his career is to be a shooter coming off screens, a few curls to the basket and penetrate when the defense collapses. Manu is a pretty good shooter but he is especially deadly when he is not doing to much on the offensive end that expends his energy.
Skull with the epic meltdown. I'm sure deep down even he knows his argument is seriously flawed.
That's irrational because the logic for a player of Manu's age is getting worse and worse year after year and there is close to nothing right now to claim that he will have a rebound year. Having taking the summer off and looking fine in preseason is nowhere near enough to offset the traditional age decline. Right now, the main reason to think Manu will get better is our belief is his greatness and that's the definition of "irrational".
Does everyone not realize that Manu's performance night in and night out will matter less in 2013 than it probably ever has??
So do you think it's irrational to expect Manu to shoot better than 40% from the field?
Looks like someone needs to research the words epic and meltdown.
Winning 2-4 les over the last ten years without Manu is that big a stretch? (Again, 1999 and 2003 are already in the bag, so 2004-13, we win at least two and I am right, one which we woulda had in 2007...) Idiot.
If half of his shots taken are still 3 pointers, his FG% won't really be that higher.
It's irrational to think half his shots won't be three pointers?
Well, he can decide to take else 3 pointers but that won't make him a better player.
1. So is it your opinion that because of his age, and because he was so bad in the playoffs, that he will be an even worse player the next two years, and that he is DONE, washed up?
2. Also is it your opinion that if it were not for him, the Spurs would have more championships by now?
3. Lastly, is it your opinion that it is all Manus' fault and no one else's that the Spurs lost this last championship?
Your opinion carries quite a bit of weight around here understandably so, so most of us would like to know how you feel about those three points.
It is the claim of the haters that Manu is the sole and only culprit to all of the Spurs woes, except those who also blame Pop.
He was the highest paid player on the team at $14 million a year. He was paid star money but played worse than role players like Ray Allen and Danny Green(both on 3 million/year contracts). He deserves plenty of blame.
Manu can have a great year this year. It still wouldnt change that fact that his horrendous play in game 6 cost the spurs the championship last year.
I have never questioned Manus heart or contributions to this team for the past championships. He is my favorite spur ever.
I do however question his brain at this point. Repeated boneheaded turnovers, ill advised shots in critical moments of the that he pulled off when younger are not acceptable at this stage of his career, and are hurting the team. Its not neutral, its not indifferent, its costing the team games! If he is not willing to adjust his game, then pop needs to sit him because its not fair to the other guys.
***Nobody is asking for 05 Manu, we're asking for a Manu that realizes its not 05.***
1. Manu wasn't "so bad" in the playoffs. He is still a damn good player. What I'm saying is that the expectation for a 36 years old player is to get worst with each year passing. While, it's possible for Manu to have a Duncan's like rebound season, it really isn't the most likely scenario.
2. No, that's stupid.
3. No, that's stupid.
Both Manu's haters and homers are extremely excessive on that subject. There is clearly a huge gap between their opinions and I'm somewhere in that gap. Manu is still a very good player but he is clearly on the decline and nowhere near his prime level. It's just stating the obvious.
And despite what some think, Manu has aged well considering his position and his style to play. Players aging well in the NBA are pass first PG, bigmen and spot up shooters and he is none of that. Manu being able to play at his last season level while being 35 years old is quite remarkable.
A stat to back that claim: At 35 years old, Manu had a 19.0 PER. Only 2 others SG in the NBA history had a 19+ PER at 35+ years old: Drexler and Jordan.
I don't expect him to be an all star this season but I do think he can help the spurs get back to the finals.
And Manu will be the third oldest wing in the NBA this season behind Allen and Carter. He starts to be really old.
Thank you, Bruno, as always your opinion is valued.
To be honest most of the Manu fans here actually do not believe that Manu is anywhere near being infallible, in fact most of us believe the same as you do. I know I do, and I've been one of the most vocal in Manu' defense.
What causes the extremes are the need to have to respond to the haters obsession of blaming him for everything.
Most of us are reacting to the false accusations that we are Manu lovers by the haters (they say Manu s) simply because we refuse to go along with all the hate, and all the blame, when in reality we are Spur fans, not solely Manu fans.
I hope you understand.
Everthing you just said....but from the other side of the isle.
Basically this is what it boils down to. Adjust expectations. He's clearly on the decline. He's going to have ups and downs.
Manu himself said injuries really got into his head last season. If he can stay healthy (big if), he'll be fine. And if he can't, he can't.
I can accept and understand your opinion, user, because it is rational, shows thought and insight, and none of the obsessiveness of the haters.
I can see you are being objective about it as best you can, but you make the claim that "Manu cost us the le" and that part has been clearly shown to be a gross over statement by many on here already.
All that is asked is to read those posts so you can see what most of us see, namely that Manu was not the only one who made mistakes, they all did, and just as there were valid reasons that Green quit making 3s, and Tony quit making his shots, so were there valid reasons that Manu had his turnovers.
The objective fan who observes through the use of his unbiased basketball intelligence are capable of seeing this.
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