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in no. He is a top 10 all time talent in crying to the refs.
Still fairly young but at this stage of his career, you can tell he has the skill, numbers and accolades to safely carry him as one of the best of his generation throughout the remainder of his career. The only thing missing are MVP(s) FMVP(s) and Championship(s).
Let's say he win at least one regular season MVP at some point in his career, and also assumes he pulls a Nowitzki like post season run (2011) winning a FMVP and NBA le ending his career with multiple All NBA 1st team and All Star Selections and cracks the Top 5 scoring in the All time list, is that enough to put him in the Top 10 list?
I know everyone has a list but this is pretty much the accepted universal Top 10 list right now (not in order). Which player will KD replace?
Jordan
Magic
KAJ
Bird
Russell
Wilt
Duncan
Shaq
Olajuwon
Lebron
in no. He is a top 10 all time talent in crying to the refs.
Until Durant can play on both sides of the court like almost all of those players he will never be top 10. is skinny as too.
On a side note, does anyone else wonder how two of the top 10 players of all time playing together in their heydays only won 5 rings? I mean KAJ has 1 with Milwaukee but him with Magic couldn't even surpass Jordan's Bulls in ring count. Now I know people will say it's cus of that Larry, but Bird didn't have any top 10 of all-time players next to him. It just seems to me that players who are consistently ranked in the #2-#5 all-time range should have accomplished more together than 5 rings.
he'll be in the same tier as kg, dirk, wade
and you must be nauseated when you wrote that list, because afaik kobe not lebron is in top 10 and thats universal gospel
Top 10 Stern handout collector, but definitely not a top 10 all-time player....
Every single thread in the NBA forum is designed to take a shot at Kobe.
You keep going after my boy here. See now he'll be rejuvenated, just like in 2009.
Only in Lakerfans mind
LeBron >>>> Kobe
Cue thehe has 5 rings
you seem so sure of that when your idol himself said "i don't know how i'll come back from this injury"
No
People are just gonna keep taking shots at Kobe, he'll just keep deflecting it with his 5 LOB's, versus LBJ's 2.
5&done
2&counting
age caught up to him. basically, as soon as magic started getting better, kaj started declining. by magic's 3rd season kaj was 34 and that season marked the first time kaj's rebounding numbers dipped in single numbers in a season (8.7 Rpg) the next several years, he basically became a 20 ppg 7 rpg big man running on dead legs.
I didn't put Kobe in the list to save us some time, I'm hoping to avoid the argument and turn this into another Kobe-Lebron thread seeing as Lebron will most likely surpass Kobe anyway.
Thanks for the knowledgedidn't realize how old Kareem was by then
Kd is an amazing talent with a chance at a top 10 career. I Like him he is great player but l top 10 is uber elite. Far from a top 10 but he may get there. Stay on topic this was not about Kobe even if meant as a subliminal diss ...
Last edited by Killakobe81; 10-22-2013 at 12:09 PM.
I don't see Durant passing any of the guys on the original list and certainly not Kobe either. Right now I think he looks like he's headed into that tier of alltime greats at the level of Jerry West, George Gervin, Scottie Pippen, Oscar Robertson, Moses Malone, David Robinson, Karl Malone, Charles Barkley, Kevin Garnett, Dirk Nowitzki, etc. By that I mean truly great players, but not guys who dominated a generation like the players in the top 10.
Durant will need 3 to 5 rings to have a shot to crack the top 10 and given his defensive deficiencies it will probably need to be more like 5.
You obviously never saw Kareem and Magic play in real time.
As advanced stats thrive and continue to be prominent in basketball, which is inevitable and has already started, ring count will become an obsolete argument, unfortunately for you and your ignore list, tbh..
Magic, Bird, Kobe and Russell only played 1 side of the court, and are all widely considered to be top 12 all-timers, my , tbh..
Wrong. Bird and Magic were not good individual defenders but they played excellent team defense. I think most people would be surprised to learn Magic led the league in steals twice and Bird was 3x all-defensive second team.
Russell has 11 ing rings and was the best player on his team. Enough said.
Last edited by namlook; 10-20-2013 at 07:56 PM.
Bird and Magic playing good team defense is a myth that began perpetuating a few years ago to preserve their auras, tbh
Basketball coverage is all about myths and false perceptions created from biases..thankfully, the advanced stat era is aiding us to qualify and prove our arguments, rather than relying on ty, antiquated opinions and beliefs, tbh..
You obviously never saw Bird and Magic play in real time.Bird and Magic playing good team defense is a myth that began perpetuating a few years ago to preserve their auras, tbh
If you're a star that plays on good/great defensive teams and you aren't a liability, everybody will ignore that you don't actually have defensive responsibilities and they'll label you a "good team defender", tbh
Durant isn't a defensive liability, tbh, but he clearly doesn't have responsibility on defense either..same with Magic, Bird and Kobe, so it shouldn't be held against him..
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