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    Why Christ got pissed off at the vendors in the Temple.
    Jesus didn't call them butts and cry "I'm putting you on ignore"

    appropriate anger, tbh

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    Interesting. Please elaborate, I sincerely want to know.
    He didn't until proven he did.

    Just like Noah's ark

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    He didn't until proven he did.

    Just like Noah's ark
    Oh, I see what you're saying. You are saying it never happened.
    Well, I disagree, but believe me it is way too deep for me to be able to explain in a simple manner. And even if I were to attempt to do it, I would be labeled crazy at the least, and a know it all at best, so I won't go there. However, I have alluded to what I believe about it in earlier posts, but luckily no one caught it except a few. And those few helped open my eyes even more.

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    Was in the news few mornings ago and got into argument with wife. Told her it's a fable/fairy tale and no way true..dude might have built a boat and put some animals on it but that's it. She's fairly religious and says God can do anything...any of you people believe all that BS?
    Stupid people believe in fairy tales.

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    Stupid people believe in fairy tales.
    That's exactly what Paul called things like Noah's Ark: Fables. Myths.

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    That's exactly what Paul called things like Noah's Ark: Fables. Myths.
    Noah's ark is a silly fable......but Jesus walking on water isn't!

    Skull not catching on.

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    And Jesus multiplying the loaves and the fish?

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    And Jesus multiplying the loaves and the fish?
    Good one.

    Water into wine, putting his mother Mary in her place are some others

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    And Jesus multiplying the loaves and the fish?
    May be literal, may not, but still deeper than anything the former could convey. Not all parables are literal, though they can be. That's what fries people. A disciple when he is fully trained is like his Master. Well, that means the suffering must be the same. Betrayed by Judas, mocked, etc. There is always a Judas. Sometimes it is a cheating wife.

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    May be literal, may not, but still deeper than anything the former could convey. Not all parables are literal, though they can be. That's what fries people. A disciple when he is fully trained is like his Master. Well, that means the suffering must be the same. Betrayed by Judas, mocked, etc. There is always a Judas. Sometimes it is a cheating wife.
    Could be, but the Gospel of Judas paints a different picture.
    Judas never hung himself, he never received any coinage, and he never willingly betrayed him, rather Jesus gave him the task of handing him over to the authorities. Plus he was considered one of the closest of the Apostles to Jesus.
    All this is from The Dead Sea Scrolls. They needed a bad guy and Judas was given the unenviable task of fulfilling that role, but only Jesus and he knew of it. So take that for what it's worth.

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    The Gospel of Mary is from Mary Magdalene and not from His mother Mary.
    In it she says Jesus gave her special instructions not given to His Apostles, and that there became a power struggle between her and Peter. Also she was married to Jesus. Also from The Dead Sea Scrolls. Take it for what it's worth.

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    May be literal, may not, but still deeper than anything the former could convey. Not all parables are literal, though they can be. That's what fries people. A disciple when he is fully trained is like his Master. Well, that means the suffering must be the same. Betrayed by Judas, mocked, etc. There is always a Judas. Sometimes it is a cheating wife.
    lol cherry picking magic tricks

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    The Gospel of Mary is from Mary Magdalene and not from His mother Mary.
    In it she says Jesus gave her special instructions not given to His Apostles, and that there became a power struggle between her and Peter. Also she was married to Jesus. Also from The Dead Sea Scrolls. Take it for what it's worth.
    Yes I remember. Reminds me of THE LAST TEMPTATION OF CHRIST and the massive public wig out.

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    Chuck Heston's second best roll behind Bowling For Soup

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    do you know everything? how much knowledge would you say you have?
    More than he knows.

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    Could be, but the Gospel of Judas paints a different picture.
    Judas never hung himself, he never received any coinage, and he never willingly betrayed him, rather Jesus gave him the task of handing him over to the authorities. Plus he was considered one of the closest of the Apostles to Jesus.
    All this is from The Dead Sea Scrolls. They needed a bad guy and Judas was given the unenviable task of fulfilling that role, but only Jesus and he knew of it. So take that for what it's worth.
    They knew of the prophecies and they would do anything to fulfill them. There were bands of messiahs and their disciples all about. Everyone in the desert was a seer, a prophet, and one group did enough to force prophecy that their lies and collusion led to one system breaking through. Islam is a similar story, one that got through. One is going to get through, and when it does, ignorant ass people will claim it's truth else it wouldn't have survived, never mind all the other religions that contradict it.

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    They knew of the prophecies and they would do anything to fulfill them. There were bands of messiahs and their disciples all about. Everyone in the desert was a seer, a prophet, and one group did enough to force prophecy that their lies and collusion led to one system breaking through. Islam is a similar story, one that got through. One is going to get through, and when it does, ignorant ass people will claim it's truth else it wouldn't have survived, never mind all the other religions that contradict it.
    So how does effect these other Gospels found in the Dead Sea scrolls but not included in the bible?

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    So how does effect these other Gospels found in the Dead Sea scrolls but not included in the bible?
    I don't understand your question.

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    I don't understand your question.
    Well, I think I understood your point in that the most popular oral tradition at the time was the one that got passed on and written down, to eventually grow into a religion.
    But now in light of The Dead Sea Scrolls, as well as other new discoveries, how does this impact the bible I general, and especially the bible literalists?

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    They knew of the prophecies and they would do anything to fulfill them. There were bands of messiahs and their disciples all about. Everyone in the desert was a seer, a prophet, and one group did enough to force prophecy that their lies and collusion led to one system breaking through. Islam is a similar story, one that got through. One is going to get through, and when it does, ignorant ass people will claim it's truth else it wouldn't have survived, never mind all the other religions that contradict it.

    Yeah, because crucifixion is such an awesome career goal.


    *rolling my eyes*

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    Yeah, because crucifixion is such an awesome career goal.


    *rolling my eyes*
    The Middle East has had martyrs forever. I am sure there were plenty messiahs who didn't want to walk the walk. One did though. Post hoc ergo propter hoc, and such. Like evolution, some here look at the output and pretend it was the only possibility.

    Do you really roll your eyes when you type?

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    That's exactly what Paul called things like Noah's Ark: Fables. Myths.
    Kind of like Jesus.

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    They knew of the prophecies and they would do anything to fulfill them. There were bands of messiahs and their disciples all about. Everyone in the desert was a seer, a prophet, and one group did enough to force prophecy that their lies and collusion led to one system breaking through. Islam is a similar story, one that got through. One is going to get through, and when it does, ignorant ass people will claim it's truth else it wouldn't have survived, never mind all the other religions that contradict it.
    Scientology.

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    Scientology?

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    I don't understand your question.
    I asked how do you think these recently discovered Gospels in the Dead Sea Scrolls which are not included in the present day bible affect that present day bible and it's over all message?

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