Suns: 1 NBA championship without Kobe

[Arnold Toht]

Your so called "daddy", "alpha male", etc.

[AchillesHeel]

He was 32 when he left LA, Kirby missed the playoffs and lost in the 1st round twice.

Shaq beat MJ in the playoffs and led his team to the Finals before Kirby was even drafted.

[elmanutres]

shaq won 3 in his prime while kobe won 2 in his prime. Even then daddy carried kirby to 3 of them and won one when he was becoming washed up

[spurraider21]

shaq won 3 in his prime while kobe won 2 in his prime. Even then daddy carried kirby to 3 of them and won one when he was becoming washed up

This. Shaq won more in his prime, Kirby was able to coattail more successfully

[Rogue]

Shaq only won 1 NBA championship without Kobe and even that one is asterisked, but that's not the center point of the matter imho. Shaq won 3 as the #1 of his team with Kobe always living in the shadow of his fat salty ass, while Kobe only got 2.

[DMC]

Shaq was in his prime before he came to LA.

Tim won a ring before either Shaq or Kobe.

[ambchang]

Shaq tried hard to coattail. Just not tht good at it. Only if he could've listened and learned from the greatest coattailer of all time.

[Koolaid_Man]

shaq won 3 in his prime while kobe won 2 in his prime. Even then daddy carried kirby to 3 of them and won one when he was becoming washed up

2001 "maybe" and that's a big MAYBE is the only year you can vaguely make a case....

[elmanutres]

2001 "maybe" and that's a big MAYBE is the only year you can vaguely make a case....

Boiled down, daddy won 3 in his prime and 1 when he started becoming a TOSB, kirby piggy backed on daddy's back on 3, won 2 in his prime and couldn't win one as a TOSB with howard and nash