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basically there's no way a child should be able to kick the parents out of the house...but if Spur fan logic is true Kobe kicked Shaq out the house and onto the street. Use your evolution given for brains Spur fan...
The Purpose of this thread is simply to Keep Honest People Honest
Just want to end the Shaq Carried Kobe argument with a math analogy Spur fan can personally relate to
1999-2000
Shaq = MVP, All Star Game MVP, 1st Team All-NBA and 2nd Team All-Defense
Kobe = All Star, 2nd Team All-NBA and 1st Team All-Defense
Playoff numbers
Shaq 30.7 ppg 15.4 reb 3.1 ast
Kobe 21.1 ppg 4.5 reb 4.4 ast
Glen Rice 12.4 ppg 4.0 reb 2.1 ast
Shaq led the team in scoring 16 games during the playoffs with games scoring 46, 43, 41, 41, 40 plus eight other 30 point games.
Kobe led the team in scoring 6 times with highs being 35, 33, 32 and 32 again at the age of 21.
Shaq was dominant but Kobe's numbers were better than Duncan's as first option in SA for his first le. I concede this was Shaq's lone year as Alpha with Kobe on the team.
Now we get serious...
2000-2001
Regular season they were both in the top five in scoring Shaq 28.7 a night and Kobe 28.5
Post season:
Shaq 30.4 ppg 15.4 reb 3.2 ast
Kobe 29.4 ppg 7.3 reb 6.1 ast
Derek Fisher 13.4 ppg 3.8 reb 3.0 ast
Shaq led the team in scoring in 8 games scoring 30 points or better 7 times and 40 points 3 times. Kobe on the other hand led the team in scoring in 8 games, scoring 30 points or more in 7 games and 2 games over 40 including the team playoff high of 48 against the Spurs
2001-2002
Shaq 28.5 ppg 12.6 reb 2.8 ast
Kobe 26.6 ppg 5.8 reb 4.6 ast
Derek Fisher 10.2 ppg 3.3 reb 2.7 ast
Shaq was the team scoring leader in 9 playoff games, 8 times scoring 30 or more points and Kobe led the team in 10 playoff games, 6 times scoring 30 or more points. The point of this statistical analysis is to prove how foolish it is to claim Kobe was carried by Shaq to his 3 rings.
If Kobe was carried he would have averaged Derek Fisher and Glen Rice type numbers...
basically there's no way a child should be able to kick the parents out of the house...but if Spur fan logic is true Kobe kicked Shaq out the house and onto the street. Use your evolution given for brains Spur fan...
Anyone who was watching knows Kobe took over the reigns of not only the Lakers but the entire league in 2001. Not even Shaq will deny that. Kobe will never get his just due because he dared to be better than Jordan and took some white pussy up in Colorado and didn't fry for it. The media signed off and dug up this pleb Lebron to replace Kobe. Kobe wasn't finished wiping his ass with the league... which is why Wade tweeted his was sick to his stomach when Kobe rang without Shaq. Believe me when I tell you... they all hate Kobe... even PJ. Kobe forced all to kiss his ass and like it.
It would be a pretty big difference for you. At $8.50, you'd have to work 59 hours to repay your $500, but at $7.50, you'd have to work 67 hours. That's 8 less hours for you to read up on Duncan gay rumors. Huge deal.
*before taxes and any deductions. Even though at your pay scale, I doubt you have either.
Let's use inverse shooting% as income tax.
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It doesn't only happen on rare occasions in your country though, you know it... and using a proxy based in Houston ain't never gonna cover it up completely, imho.
I think people hate Kobe for a reason, and he never managed to force anyone to kiss his ass let alone liking it, except conniving with himself to kiss shaq's time and time again, imho.
BR you really expose yourself
Lol Koolaid fool the troll. Shaq's mere presence > Kobe. Kobe could have been replaced by 10 different guys from the same era.
Kobe is a glorified Vince Carter without a dominant big man.
I don't hear the echos of "Kobe can't win without shaq" anymore. Phil begged Kobe to come back... he could have gone to any teeam he wanted but he begged Kobe to come back to LA. Kobe got a coach fired with just a glare. Teammates are forced to endure him lambasting them in the media... with no apologies. Other coaches tell their best defenders on game night to not even look him in his eyes for fear of pissing him off. Kobe shoots and shoots and shoots and shoots and he don't give a about his percentage. Kobe made the leauge endure him and his annoying ways. If he had settled for 3 then yall would have had him right where you wanted him. But he kept pushing... he kept complaining... and he kept shooting... and I'm glad and happy for him. Next up... he's going to drop Jordan down a notch on the scoring list just to give yall more reasons to hate him.
Kobe replaced Shaq with Gasol and got just as much done.
he kept pushing? yeah for another bs trade which involved another big man to bail him out.
That's exactly what I meant. Jordan pushed for Rodman and Harper. Bird pushed for Walton. Magic pushed for Thompson. Isaiah pushed for Aquirre. Lebron pushed for Wade and Bosh. Shaq pushed for everyone. West pushed for Wilt. Its the nature of the game... but only Kobe is critisized for having help. If Duncan had pushed to be in the game those last 28 seconds you'd have a different at ude.
If that were true you need to start naming the 10 guys from that era that won back to back no Shaq like Kobe....if what you say is true then T-Mac, A.I, and Vince Carter should have at least 2 rings as does Kobe without Shaq....do you see how easy it is to on your grade school analysis?
naw naw big homie...Duncan let someone else do the pushing....from behind
wow, soo Koolaid_Welch and Naruto think Kobe > Shaq. shocking
you know my analysis is spot on....you're left speechlesswow, soo Koolaid_Welch and Naruto think Kobe > Shaq. shocking
It's obvious, Kobe was the one constant thing when it comes to winning. Shaq left, got another ring despite playing with Wade, Lebron, Boston. Kobe stayed and he gave a druggie like Lamar and a softy European who by the way is 0-16 in playoffs with out Kobe a taste of championship.wow, soo Koolaid_Welch and Naruto think Kobe > Shaq. shocking
Shaquille was undeniably the dominant figure but Kobe was the best player overall by scoring, hitting clutch shots, defending and playmaking.
^ You love reminding yourself of 6. Why don't you put a sig of Allen's dagger instead?
Duncan and Jefferson would disagree.
Tammy D was ing Jefferson down (no pun)
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