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    Repug hearings today with 4 software developers, as the Repugs go Benghazi on the healthcare.gov. Repugs didn't give a about Benghazi dead, nor about healthcare.gov, except to beat on the Dems, which is their only game, since they also don't GAF about governing.

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    Repug hearings today with 4 software developers, as the Repugs go Benghazi on the healthcare.gov. Repugs didn't give a about Benghazi dead, nor about healthcare.gov, except to beat on the Dems, which is their only game, since they also don't GAF about governing.
    Their tactics of constantly playing the all-out short game is really starting to catch up with them.

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    Their tactics of constantly playing the all-out short game is really starting to catch up with them.
    .. only if they lose the House, or at least lose House and some Senate seats next year, but extreme gerrrymandering and widespread voter suppression will keep them safe, very probably.

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    So what happens when things get smoothed out (you know they will)? What are you guys going to cry about then?

    The pause in between pages on the site is too long?

    LOL
    What would happen is that mandates would still be wrong. Obama agrees with me


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    What would happpen is that mandates would still be wrong.
    I agree to drop the mandate if you agree to let hospital ERs, public and private, refuse all care to the uninsured.

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    Their tactics of constantly playing the all-out short game is really starting to catch up with them.
    This is obvious. What happens when the website kinks are worked out? I sometimes wonder in the rush to bash Obama his opponents are never thinking of their next move. It's all about today.

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    Well, Sebelius just said it takes 5 years to write the code and another year to debug it so I'm not holding my breath.

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    This is obvious. What happens when the website kinks are worked out? I sometimes wonder in the rush to bash Obama his opponents are never thinking of their next move. It's all about today.
    Takes the term "grasping for straws" to a new level.

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    Well, Sebelius just said it takes 5 years to write the code and another year to debug it so I'm not holding my breath.
    all this proves is she has no idea how a software system is developed and deployed. She has ZERO clue and probably ZERO experience on anything remotely related to the technology sector and ecommerce. Same goes for Obama, the white house staff and probably 90% of the decision makers that worked on this project

    making an ecommerce site the cornerstone of your law and paying $500 million to a group of Canadian potheads to build it

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    This is obvious. What happens when the website kinks are worked out? I sometimes wonder in the rush to bash Obama his opponents are never thinking of their next move. It's all about today.

    What would happen is that mandates would still be wrong. Obama agrees with me


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    Repug hearings today with 4 software developers, as the Repugs go Benghazi on the healthcare.gov. Repugs didn't give a about Benghazi dead, nor about healthcare.gov, except to beat on the Dems, which is their only game, since they also don't GAF about governing.
    Dems showing some balls

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    House Republicans held their first hearing to grill the creators behind the Healthcare.gov website on Thursday.

    Having discovered a genuine, verifiable problem with the president’s signature legislative accomplishment — the site just doesn’t work as designed — Republicans seized the opportunity to focus on nonsense.


    Rep. Joe Barton (R-TX) split hairs over an HTML comment that was mistakenly left inside the code and has no bearing on the functionality of the site.


    “You know it’s not HIPAA-compliant,” Barton said to Sheryl Campbell, the senior vice president at CGI Federal, the chief contractor behind the site. “Admit it! You’re under oath!”


    The congressman was referring to the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act, which protects the privacy of patients’ medical records.


    Rep. Frank Pallone (D-NJ) defended Campbell by pointing out a key aspect of the Affordable Care Act — it bans the concept of pre-existing conditions. Thus medical history is irrelevant and not part of any application.


    “So once again, here we have my Republican colleagues trying to scare everybody—” Pallone said.


    When Barton tried to get Pallone to yield back the floor, the congressman from New Jersey said, “ No, I will not yield to this monkey court or whatever this thing is.”


    This is not a monkey court,” Barton responded.

    http://www.nationalmemo.com/watch-co...-monkey-court/

    Joe Barton, as dumb as your typical TX Congressman, racing to the bottom with Gohmert, etc.



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    Takes the term "grasping for straws" to a new level.
    Don't act as if you or GGA wouldn't be railing the administration's utter incompetence and negligence if it were a Republican in office. It's a cluster now and the fact that it was rolled out in such an irresponsible manner deserves discussion.

    What happens when it's fixed? Some who don't like the law will keep railing against it on principle, and others will move on.

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    Don't act as if you or GGA wouldn't be railing the administration's utter incompetence and negligence if it were a Republican in office. It's a cluster now and the fact that it was rolled out in such an irresponsible manner deserves discussion.
    The issue here isn't that the Republicans are angry with the website. The issue is that they honestly don't care whether or not the law could actually help the country and it's citizens. They have abased the current issues of our time to a simple, "We wanna win and make sure they lose at any cost" point of view. It's pathetic, it's disingenuous, and it undermines a lot of LEGITIMATE complaints they could actually have about the state of the AFA.

    That's the issue here. They just took the nuclear option for a half of a ing month and now they want to sit down, have some fireside chats, and pretend that they're reasonable, rational, functioning members of Congress with "the good people of the United States" in their hearts and minds. It's bull . They just performed one of the most detrimental, ludicrous, asinine actions in the history of American politics. They're sooooooo super worried about the damage the AFA could do that they cost the government and it's people untold billions of dollars in a ridiculous attempt to block it, which was doomed from day one. that. So no. It's a little too transparent, and they don't get off for it. But I don't need the GOP telling me when to hold the other party accountable. Reasonable, sane people can do that on their own without being rank and filed like a bunch of wind-up toys.

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    MSNBC had some great clips tonight from Repugs in 2006 explaining how there are always glitches, 6 MONTHS AFTER Medicare Part D was started.

    They asked the Dems to help their Dem cons uents understand Pard D, and the Dems did, since MEDICARE PART D WAS THE LAW and it helped their cons uents.

    Today, we have the OH Repug legislature SUING Repug Gov Kasich to stop his acceptance of Medicaid expansion, plus of course the Repugs sabotaging ACA non-stop for 3 years.

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    Is it more irresponsible to shut down the government for 16 days or roll out a program apparently six years before it was ready?

    Don't act like the concept of winning at all costs only applies to one party.

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    Is it more irresponsible to shut down the government for 16 days or roll out a program apparently six years before it was ready?

    Don't act like the concept of winning at all costs only applies to one party.
    Six years? Really? People are already getting signed up. Why the need for completely unnecessary hyperbole? You have NO idea how the AFA will look in 6 years, and neither does a single member of the GOP.

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    you just can't make this up:

    Now She Tells Us: Sebelius Says Obamacare's Exchange Website Needed Six Years of Development, Instead Of Two
    http://www.forbes.com/sites/theapoth...nstead-of-two/

    “We didn’t have enough testing…for a very complicated project,” she conceded to the Wall Street Journal. The exchanges needed five years of construction and one year of testing, and instead had only “two years [of construction] and almost no testing.”


    5 years of development

    stupid incompetent has no idea. Any software that takes over 5 years in development will become obsolete by the time it goes live

    1 year of testing

    holy this was in charge of the whole thing???????

    what a total disaster, taxpayers still gotta pay for this .

    Sebelius would've been better off working for 3D Realms imho.

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    100,000 people have signed up now and they need 7 MILLION in order for this thing to work. Good luck.

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    100,000 people have signed up now and they need 7 MILLION in order for this thing to work. Good luck.
    Millions more have signed up with state exchanges..don't believe everything you hear from FAUX

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    The government flubbed the Social security roll out too..

    The Social Security example is the one with the clearest parallel to HealthCare.gov. The federal government was facing a similarly massive undertaking. As the Social Security Bulletin recounted on the program’s 75th anniversary, “Keeping a record of each individual’s lifetime earnings was an unprecedented task, and the technology to support this Herculean effort did not even exist.” That the government did it is now seen by historians as an “amazing” accomplishment. But when snags arose, people at the time had no idea that would be the case.

    An “early crisis,” recalled the Bulletin, was the “John Doe” problem: “Many employers reported earnings without providing a worker’s name or SSN . The first report from the Bureau of Internal Revenue did not contain SSNs for about 12 percent of the wage items—and this rapidly increased in subsequent reports.”
    and President Roosevelt?

    Did the media panic force President Franklin Roosevelt to leap into action and save the day? Not exactly. As the Chair of the Board at the time said in a 1967 interview: “He wasn’t interested in it. He was bored stiff. I couldn’t have kept him interested in any of my woes. He laughed them off. That’s the only way he could survive, I suppose.
    http://ourfuture.org/20131023/social...-one-remembers

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    Obamacare applications near 700,000, official says

    (Reuters) - About 700,000 applications have been submitted for U.S. healthcare coverage being offered through new exchanges created by President Barack Obama's healthcare law, a U.S. official said...The U.S. Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services released the number during an update for journalists about the healthcare marketplace, which has had a rocky rollout since enrollment in the new plans began on Oct 1.

    The U.S. government is operating the healthcare.gov website, which has been plagued by technical problems since the outset and is the portal for 36 states; the remaining states are operating their own online marketplaces. The nearly 700,000 applications are the total from both the state- and federally-run exchanges, Julie Bataille, a CMS spokeswoman, said on the media call.

    Applications for at least 390,000 people have been completed through the state-run exchanges, according to a Reuters tally of state reports.

    Completed applications mean that the applicants received a determination about whether they are eligible for tax credits or the Medicaid program for low-income Americans. Applicants have not necessarily chosen a plan.
    http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/...99N16U20131024

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    700,000 in 24 days. Pretty decent for the "horrible start" it's being billed as.

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    what a total disaster, taxpayers still gotta pay for this .

    Sebelius would've been better off working for 3D Realms imho.
    $3T wasted for Repug's unfunded Iraq disaster, plus unfunded Repug Medicare Advantage and Part D, but now you about $400M for this, which will work great?

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    I thnink it's honorable that the House is going to get to the bottom of the IT issues... LOL

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    Obamacare applications near 700,000, official says



    http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/...99N16U20131024
    700K out if how many uninsured? Also note these people aren't insured as of yet, which is the thing that should be measured. They've simply completed their application and made the determination they are eligible. And the stat that less than half of the apps were generated from the national site is pretty damning, though not surprising.

    I'm not sure if this was intended to be positive, because that's just not a rationally defensible position at this point.

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