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Kobe did it with a pussy... and a crack head as his sidekicks.
People like to talk about it like it's this amazing feat, meanwhile Iverson did the same with an equally bad supporting cast, had a better regular season record, plus unlike Lebron he didn't get swept in the Finals and he faced one of the best NBA teams of all time.
Put that Cleveland team in the west and it's a 2nd round exit tops.
Kobe did it with a pussy... and a crack head as his sidekicks.
I attribute AI taking away a game to the Laker's arrogance at the time rather than his greatness. That being said, Lebron's trip to the finals is very overrated. He does not fair as well against the battlefield in the West.
Iverson actually had another quality player in his starting lineup though, in prime Mutombo. CROFL Laker fans who want to cry about Kobe's 2006 supporting cast when he had prime Odom as his #2 guy, while LeBron had who in 2007? Prime Drew Gooden?
I think people remember the game where he scored 25 straight points for the Cavs and something like 29 of their last 31 points in an overtime (or double ot?) win against the Pistons
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2000 Sixers outside of Iverson >> 2007 Cavs outside of LeBron
He had Drew Gooden, Sasha Pavlovic, and Boobie Gibson in his starting lineup. gtfo with this
Mutombo was still good, but his prime was probably a few years prior. He was hurt bad the season before, and his athleticism was noticeably lower. I believe Aaron McKie was 6th man of the year that year though
fify myrofl
2006 Lakers outside of Kobe >> 2007 Cavs outside of LeBron
He had Drew Gooden, Sasha Pavlovic, and Boobie Gibson in his starting lineup. gtfo with this
Also true. LeBron's teams in Cleveland were complete , I remember when they traded for Jamison and everyone thought they were stackedBron was so good he literally made players around him look good. If he was on the 2009 Magic instead of Howard he'd have probably beaten the Lakers in the Finals tbh
In all honesty I can tell you're a nerdy white boy who's never touched a basketball in your life....it's really a shame that ignorant people like you can post the dribble and non-sense that has no basis in fact....reminds me of the lunatic Tea-Party fringe group tbh...
Here's your proof of AI's greatness:
Equally bad supporting cast? Not even. Neither was great, but the 76ers was unquestionably superior and more complete. The defensive ability of that squad was absolutely nasty, with Ratliff, Mutumbo, and Snow. The Cavs just had a bunch of mid range shooters and undersized players at their positions outside of Big Z. Boobie Gibson being the 2nd most reliable option during that playoff run, after Lebron? rofl
The East actually even weaker back then too. The Pistons that Lebron beat would have rolled through the East in 01.
I don't disagree with this at all. The East was definitely weak in 07, and Lebron's squad wasn't very strong. But it doesn't make what he did in his run less of an accomplishment. He still took a team with minimal talent to the Finals, and dominated along the way, including perhaps the greatest postseason single game performance ever in game 5 against Detroit.
oh and
If the NBA could, they'd probably erase 2007 from their memory--just like the stillbirth that was the 1998-99 season. Outside of LeBron's Game 5 at the Palace it was easily the most forgettable season I can ever remember. At least '99 had the Knicks memorable playoff run with the AH shot, 4-point play, etc.
Lebron's trip is underrated. He almost single handed beat the Pistons. The rest of his team was completely ineffective in the Finals. All Spurs had to do was contain Lebron. He got one dunk the entire series.
I was obviously talking about the 2000-2001 Lakers when i said one of the best teams of all time. They swept their way to the Finals and lost that one Finals game where Iverson goes off.oh and
No spurs squad would even crack the top 10 of best NBA teams of all time imo.
That's a little harsh, tbh...although I do agree spurfan pimps that '07 squad too much with the "it was the most complete team blah blah blah" bull . Maybe they were, maybe they weren't. 2005 was there most impressive year, imo.
As stated earlier, 2007 was a skidmark on the underpants of the Association. Underwhelming regular season, Steve Nash won the MVP again, and the playoffs were incomparably atrocious outside of LeBron's Game 5. People might bring up the GSW series, but only Game 5 was really close...and even though it was a major upset the games themselves weren't close. The defending champs were swept in the first round, then the much anticpated Ben Wallace-Bulls laid an egg against the Pistons. The Cavs are the worst finals team the league has ever seen, and the one guy they had blew his wad against Detroit and was gassed. It also didn't help 07's cause that Donaghy was trying to pay back the Gambino Family in the WCSF.
It seriously might be the worst NBA season that most of us have ever lived through (luckily I wasn't alive for the 70's).
The 2007 Spurs were most definitely not one of the weaker teams with Ginobili in his prime, Duncan right at the tail end of his, and Parker entering his along with Bowen still playing elite defense and Oberto being the best big next to Duncan until Splitter came and even that's kinda arguable. The big three were playing at their highest level together that season, no way that was one of the weaker Spurs teams imo.
That 2006 Spurs team was something else though. Really too bad Duncan had plantar fasciitis the entire season and Manu had to make one of the worst fouls in NBA history. They would have steam rolled the Suns and destroyed the Heat. Wade would never rape Bruce Bowen the way he did the Mavericks imo
fwiw, ESPN has the 1999 Spurs up there as one of the top 10 le teams of all-time if I remember correctly. You can talk about the shortened season to deflect from their greatness but they went 15-2 in the playoffs and dominated the Lakers/Blazers and only allowed an opponent to crack 90 points once. Robinson still at all-star level and young Duncan is probably the best frontcourt combo of all-time
You don't even remember that season
You don't even remember that season
LOL, I remember how much the media hyped them getting Jamario Moon and Anthony Parker too. Ooh, LeBron finally has a supporting cast!Also true. LeBron's teams in Cleveland were complete , I remember when they traded for Jamison and everyone thought they were stacked
i mean this from the bottom of my heart. you're definitely one of the worst poster in this board when it comes to basketball takes, seriously.
please understand ratliff and mutombo did not play together in the same team
also, the sixers ranked 27th of 29th in defensive rating that year, nasty defense my ass
the drop in talent is beyond ridiculous after mutombo, since the sixers second best offensive option was aaron mckie who shot 41% throughout the playoffs.
and why are you even bringing eric snow as some sort of defensive monster? kid, you didnt even saw the series, so stfu
the sixers was really all about iverson. he was the 76ers unlike the cavs who had some BRIGHTER spots offensively. people talk about the cavs team as if it was all lebron and while i agree, iverson did far more weight lifting carrying that 76ers team.
just look at the quality of team iverson faced before reaching the finals.
pacers (miller, j. rose, jermaine o'neal)
raptors (prime vince carter)
bucks( prime ray allen, glenn robinson, cassell)
now look at the teams lebron faced
wizards ( no gilbert arenas)
nets (good team but carter was past his prime)
pistons ( ben wallace replaced by an old and injured webber)
its crystal clear those 2001 eastern conference teams would obliterate any of those 2007 eastern conference teams who were missing their best players
also considering iverson faced perhaps the greatest playoff team in nba history, its amazing he managed to steal a win against the heavily favored lakers that year.
CROFL, they were fifth in defensive rating that year you ing realso, the sixers ranked 27th of 29th in defensive rating that year, nasty defense my ass
http://www.basketball-reference.com/.../NBA_2001.html
Kobe always had a dominant big man next to him and great role players when he made the finals. Don't add him to this list please.You sir are correct on all accounts there. I agree with all you said above.Dallas lost to the 8th seed, no matter how many games they won that year they were not a juggernaut. 05 Spurs and 06 maybe the best Spurs team IMO and at their height! Too bad Tim had Plantar in 06 because that team was deep and serious, great year those two were and the Spurs at their height IMO. The 07 Spurs were good though, they were not weak by any means just not as good as the previous two IMO. All their guys in their prime at the same time, forget it they were a force those few years. I agree on a few things you said though.Equally bad supporting cast? Not even. Neither was great, but the 76ers was unquestionably superior and more complete. The defensive ability of that squad was absolutely nasty, with Ratliff, Mutumbo, and Snow. The Cavs just had a bunch of mid range shooters and undersized players at their positions outside of Big Z. Boobie Gibson being the 2nd most reliable option during that playoff run, after Lebron? rofl
The East actually even weaker back then too. The Pistons that Lebron beat would have rolled through the East in 01.
I don't disagree with this at all. The East was definitely weak in 07, and Lebron's squad wasn't very strong. But it doesn't make what he did in his run less of an accomplishment. He still took a team with minimal talent to the Finals, and dominated along the way, including perhaps the greatest postseason single game performance ever in game 5 against Detroit.
oh and
Last edited by Sean Cagney; 10-25-2013 at 12:00 AM.
Ill take this one like a man and concede i made a mistake but everything I said other than slip up was the troof
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