2013 SEC Thread Presented by People Who Chant ESS-EEE-SEE, ESS-EEE-SEE

[Pelicans78]

SEC's still the best conference this season, but the Pac-12 and ACC have caught up a bit this season. The reason is teams like Mizzou and A&M step up for other disappointing programs.

[ChumpDumper]

Johnny trolling with the the fake injury of the week.

[DesignatedT]

Just keep running, Gus

Great game symple. You guys deserved the W. Hung out with a lot of tigers afterwards. Good people .

[DesignatedT]

Just keep running, Gus

Great game symple. You guys deserved the W. Hung out with a lot of tigers afterwards. Good people .

[DMX7]

This year, yes.

The SEC is grossly overrated, but I'm not going to say the Big 10 is better.

[Bill_Brasky]

bama is the only legit team in the SEC this year. so hopefully down the line they lose, and FSU/Oregon is for the natty.

[symple19]

Great game symple. You guys deserved the W. Hung out with a lot of tigers afterwards. Good people .

I'm glad you got to go, man. Was an awesome game. Get Johnny better so you guys can beat LSU

[dirk4mvp]

:rofl lsu

[Michael Jordan.]

SEC

[Clipper Nation]

LSU
Barely beating Furman at the half

[Michael Jordan.]

Aggy

" SEC is sooo in deep man "

[BRHornet45]

sons I honestly hope we lose this game.

it has to get worse before it can get better. I'm willing to sit through a couple of ty seasons if that is what it takes to get rid of Miles.

[BRHornet45]

Aggy

" SEC is sooo in deep man "

ignorance is bliss ...

[Clipper Nation]

Epic choke by Mizzou in 2OT
$EC still the "Alabama and everyone else" conference

[Michael Jordan.]

ignorance is bliss ...

Nick Saban 4 times, Cam Newton once, Tim Tebow twice. So in deep

[BRHornet45]

$EC still the "Alabama and everyone else" conference

LMAO this coming from a Boise State fan?

son I honestly cannot name a single team in your conference. I don't even know what conference Boise is in. is it a 4A or 5A high school district?

[BRHornet45]

Nick Saban 4 times, Cam Newton once, Tim Tebow twice. So in deep

do you want me to pull out the top-25 rankings each year that are dominated by SEC teams as well?

you're either extraordinarily ignorant or very young.

(and I'm not someone who takes "conference pride" like many do. however the reality is that the SEC has dominated in college football)

[Clipper Nation]

Nick Saban 4 times, Cam Newton once, Tim Tebow twice. So in deep

Actually, it was Tebow once, Chris Leak once

[Hoops Czar]

Alabama, Auburn, Florida, and LSU have all won at least one NCAA championship since 2006. Because of these 4 teams domination, the SEC is now known as the greatest conference from top to bottom. But what about the other 10 teams? Has anyone ever sat down and analyzed the records and wins of the entire conference and answered the question "Is the SEC the best conference from top to bottom?"

To answer the above question, I took a look at the other 10 teams (Missouri and Texas A&M have been in the SEC since 2012, so their records from 2006 - 2011 are meaningless in this debate). The answer that I got was...well....below average.

So how did I come to this conclusion? I began by looking at a teams total record and looking exclusively at their non conference records. EVERYONE had a winning non conference record, or at least .500. So I began to look deeper at exactly who these teams were playing. After getting rid of the UABs and Citadel's of the schedule I was able to see the...well...below average nature of the SEC.

The SEC is a combined 47-48 against opponents from "Top Conferences (i.e. Big Ten, Big 12, Big East, Pac-10, ACC, and I threw in Boise State as well)". This is not bad at all....BUT...I decided to do something radical....I took away Georgia from the equation...once I did that, the SEC is a paltry 33-43 against top conference schools. In fact only 3 teams (4 if you count Texas A&M from last year) have a winning record against top conferences since 2006 (South Carolina, Georgia, & Kentucky) while 5 (6 including Missouri) have .500 or below records. This isn't a dominating conference. This is a top heavy conference with a bunch of below average teams riding the coat-tails of its upper echelon programs. And there's nothing wrong with that. But let's not sit here and act as if the SEC is a great conference from top to bottom when Arkansas is posting a 1-6 record against top conferences since 2006.

Another stat I want to leave you with is this. Including the 10 average / below average teams in the SEC, when going up against the most overrated conference in the NCAA (Big Ten supposedly), these SEC teams r 7 - 8. That's right, a losing record against Big Ten teams. And these are loses to Michigan State, Penn State, Northwestern, Wisconsin, Ohio State, Iowa, and Michigan. That doesnt spell domination to me...that spells.....below average (average at best).

But what's the SEC's bowl record since 2006 compared to the other major conferences? Ya know, when the games actually mean something.

Actually, let me save you the trouble.....

Another year, another SEC national champion. All the handwringing over the league’s 3-3 start to the bowl season was clearly a major waste of time and effort. We noted a week ago that the SEC’s bowl winning percentage over the past 15 years was about 60%, not 100%. As it turns out, this year’s winning percentage was about 67%.

This wasn’t a down year for the SEC in bowl games… it was an up year.

Below are the updated bowl records for all of the major conferences during the 2012 season and over the course of the last 15 years (the BCS era):

Conference All Bowls ’98-’12 BCS Bowls ’98-’12 All Bowls 2012 BCS Bowls 2012 Big West 2-0 (100.0%) 0-0 0-0 0-0 Big East 46-29 (61.3%) 8-7 3-2 1-0 SEC 73-50 (59.3%) 17-8 6-3 1-1 MWC 32-24 (57.1%) 3-1 1-4 0-0 Pac-10/12 41-45 (47.5%) 13-7 4-4 2-0 Big XII 57-63 (47.5%) 9-11 4-5 0-1 ACC 49-55 (47.1%) 3-13 4-2 1-0 WAC 23-28 (45.0%) 2-1 2-0 0-0 C-USA 33-41 (44.5%) 0-0 4-1 0-0 Big Ten 47-59 (44.3%) 12-14 2-5 0-1 Sun Belt 10-13 (43.4%) 0-0 2-2 0-0 MAC 21-28 (42.8%) 0-1 2-5 0-1

Observations:

* The SEC has 16 more bowl wins than any other conference since the 1998 season.

* The SEC has more bowl bids over that span than any other conference.

* Despite its teams often playing opponents that finished higher in their own conference standings, the SEC has the third-best winning percentage among conferences. Only the Big West — defunct for more than a decade — and the Big East have better overall winning percentages since 1998.

* Look at the overall bowl records for the Big Ten and the MAC and you have to wonder just how much talent remains in the American Midwest as people migrate to the South and to the West. No wonder Midwestern teams and leagues are searching for ways to reach the prospects in the Sun Belt region.

* Of the five major conferences remaining today — ACC, Big Ten, Big XII, Pac-12, and SEC — only the SEC has a winning bowl mark over the past 15 seasons.

And finally, the list everyone is talking about this morning:

Season BCS Champion Conference 1998 Tennessee SEC 1999 Florida State ACC 2000 Oklahoma Big XII 2001 Miami, FL Big East 2002 Ohio State Big Ten 2003 LSU SEC 2004 Southern Cal Pac-10/12 2005 Texas Big XII 2006 Florida SEC 2007 LSU SEC 2008 Florida SEC 2009 Alabama SEC 2010 Auburn SEC 2011 Alabama SEC 2012 Alabama SEC

http://www.mrsec.com/2013/01/conference-bowl-records-this-year-and-last-15-years/

[Pelicans78]

Nick Saban 4 times, Cam Newton once, Tim Tebow twice. So in deep

Saban 3 times and Les Miles once.

[Michael Jordan.]

Saban 3 times and Les Miles once.

Saban won once at LSU and 3 times at Bama?

[dirkdirkastan]

This lower level MJ troll is getting his clocked cleaned, tbh.

[Vito Corleone]

SEC people always pick strange years to prove their point. 1998, 2006. I have one for you. 1990 - 2010

Go back to 1990 and look at how many les were played for an won by Big 8/ Big 12 teams. No too shabby, the twenty year span the Big whatever played for 13 championships in that time. Of course it was dominated by Nebraska but it breaks down like this. Nebraska played for 6 championships, Oklahoma 4, Texas 2, and Colorado 1. During that time Colorado, Nebraska, Oklahoma and Texas all won championships.

Right now the SEC is top dog, but it won't always be that way, just like for a time the Big 12 was the toughest conference in America.

If you compare the best teams to take the field since 1990 none of the top five come from the SEC.

1. 2002 Miami - Best team I've ever seen assembled.
2. 1995 Nebraska - most dominate team assembled
3. 2004 USC - huge assembly of talent with 2 heisman trophy winners
4. 2005 Texas - Vince Young was the most dominate player in that time and he had 28 future NFL players to back him up.
5. 2005 USC - The 2nd half of the two teams that make up what was the greatest game ever played.
6. 1995 Nebraska - Not as great as the 95 team but still a monster of a team.

After those teams, you might see a few of the recent SEC teams, but all of which would get wiped by those top 6 teams.

[Pelicans78]

That 2005 USC team had a terrible defense. They lucked out in several games tht season.

[Pelicans78]

And Oklahoma shouldn't have been in their last 3 championship appearances.