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at butterfingers Decker being better than Dez
I have pretty much the same list as Chief Brody, but I'd put Victor Cruz over Dez imho.
DT is a toss-up, Welker plays a completely different role..Torrey Smith is a one-trick player, Reggie Wayne is finished..
I have pretty much the same list as Chief Brody, but I'd put Victor Cruz over Dez imho.
i even forgot about brandon marshall tbh.. bottom line, dez is a nobody with almost limitless potential but until he does something meaningful (aside from having huge numbers in shootouts that end with losses) i would not call him a top reciever. Of course you could make a case for him being a top 5, but in terms of making your team win, he is not a top 10 receiver, therefore it's re ed to call him n2.
IRVING, Texas -- Dallas Cowboys wide receiver Dez Bryant has taken some heat in the past 24 hours for two sideline rants in the loss to the Detroit Lions.
But sideline audio and video released by NFL.com on Monday night, supports Bryant's assertion he was offering support to his teammates.
During the first sideline chat, when Bryant is waving his arms, he yells, "No, we can't let them do that. They playing me (expletive) up. We destroy that."
Bryant is referring to press-man coverage by the Lions, something Bryant feels he can beat with a deep pass. Quarterback Tony Romo and wide receivers coach Derek Dooley are also on the audio speaking to Bryant about watching where the safety is playing him.
After Bryant breaks through Jason Witten and Jason Garrett to speak with Romo he says, "It's over on that last one."
While kneeling down with Dooley and Romo, the receivers coach tells Bryant, "Just sit it down, don't look at Tony. Safety is coming over the top."
Dooley later adds, "It looks open but they coming over the top."
Dooley is explaining to Bryant to be careful of the safety because he presents a threat on a deep pass and that's why Romo isn't throwing passes down the field toward him.
Bryant is very animated, but he never says anything negative about individually wanting the ball. If anything, Bryant is talking about how the Cowboys can beat the Lions' deep coverage.
"We busted our ass not to win this (expletive) game," Bryant yells.
Bryant did have another animated discussion on the sidelines with tight end Jason Witten with 12 seconds to play in the game. The pair needed to be separated by defensive end DeMarcus Ware, who at one point grabs Bryant to calm him down.
Bryant hugged Witten in the locker room after the game and everyone involved said the issues on the sidelines are nothing more than a player being passionate about trying to win a game.
"There was no anger at all," Bryant said to reporters on Monday. "Me and Witt, we laughed and smiled. We even joked about it whenever we got on the bus. Check this out. Don’t think that I know there’s not a million and one cameras out there on that field. The thing about it is, this is a football game. You can’t worry about who’s watching, who’s paying attention. It’s all about motivating, trying to get guys’ minds right and things like that. And basically that’s what it was. For the most part, that’s what it was, especially with the Romo situation. I don’t know how that came about. I got done talking to Romo, I went down to talk to Terrance Williams and tell them, ‘You know what, they keep you like, keep killing ‘em, keep killing ‘em, keep killing me.' And so I see he broke out for how long was the touchdown? 60 yards?"
as did brandon lloyd.
haters gon hate, Trill
rofl you're all over the place with your "analysis". you said he hasn't done anything 'meaningful' in terms of making his team win, but what other WR's that you listed above him have done much more?
Fitz's Cardinals haven't done anything in years, Green's BEngals have yet to win a playoff game, Jackson's Eagles suck, Marshall has never won a playoff game etc
I would take Jordy Nelson and Jimmy Graham (yeah, I know he's a TE) over Dez, too. Jordy's numbers are silly, especially considering he gets the best cover guy every week (and has a bunch of scrubs playing alongside at WR)
Dez has top 3 talent, but the intelligence/at ude of a spoiled teenager. He runs routes and takes plays off all the time. He could potentially become the best in the game, but there is no way he'll ever put in the work and shelve the me-first at ude which being the best requires, tbh
with waters out for the season and that show mackenzie bernadeau in there he will prob see the ball even less as Romo gets pounded into the ground
apparently you didn't notice the "either" in the post above.
Dez is trying todat , but we all know he's just salty and mad because he wanted more targets, tbh....
he didn't have to spin, NFL audio confirmed he wasn't demanding the ball.
lol he's on audio asking for the ball, trill. The audio proves it wasn't anywhere close to as confrontational as it looked, but all the same he was demanding more touches.
Not a good week for Dez--guess the emphasis was put on him once he made the bold statement that he could match Megatron in the art of receiving. Then he is caught blowing up on the sidelines. Guess those anger management mandated classes didn't help. The dude is legit and like Justin Blackmon need to change (or have changed) their ways. Don't the Cowboys have a team following Dez to ensure he behaves? Hopefully he'll get it together and be the receiver he can be.
He trolled everybody with that body language.Ya, that's what it looked like. As a side note, Dez seems to have really confusing body language compared to what he says. That could be a SNL skit: just have someone really animated going crazy but saying really nice things. Then have him really angry but just sitting calmly.
nice cop out.
everything you said is subjective and has no merit. what do you mean by they're 'more reliable'? how do you measure that? I want evidence tbh.
lulz
The Lions were bringing the safeties up and throwing cover 0 blitzes. I'd be more troubled if I had one of the more gifted receivers in the league on my team and he didn't demand the ball in that situation.
http://www.sportingcharts.com/nfl/stats/drops/2013/
sort by the column #targets caught and you'll find out dez is behind the likes of Jordy Nelson, desean jackson, cruz, roddy white, cobb, reggie wayne, eric decker, andre johnson, marshall, welker... granted, it's not the best statistic as it depends heavily on the qb play but any stat does and since the eye test is not accepted, this should do.
tbh according to the video thats what Dez thought, then the coach told him there was a safety over the top and that he needed to run the route the play calls for. So Dez didn't read the defense or run his route properly, then wonders why he didn't get the ball
Yup, I said that earlier. Dez is a beast but his route running alone keeps him out of the top 5 for sure.
calling decker better than bryant is seriously asinine
raven is slow
As a Cowboy hater last weekend was perfect..QB sneak to win the game..Dez,Tony, now Tom
and black / white push-back. Jason crack backs, Jerry jumping in. "This is COWBOYS football".
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/98...ock-dez-bryant
False equivalency is the lifeblood of American public debate.
So it should come as no surprise that, in an effort to rationalize Dez Bryant's counterproductive sideline tantrums, Bryant's defenders compared the immature Dallas receiver to Tom Brady and Peyton Manning.
Celebrated white quarterbacks yell at their teammates. Why can't a black wide receiver?
The equivalency is false on multiple levels. Dez Bryant erupted on the Dallas sideline for at least 10 solid minutes. A friend of mine, a native Detroiter, was seated a dozen rows up behind the Dallas bench on Sunday. He and his friends heckled Bryant throughout Sunday's game.
"The television highlights do not accurately portray how bad his tantrum was,"said Scott Nichols, the point guard on Ball State's 1990 NCAA Sweet 16 team. "He berated dozens of teammates for what seemed like 20 minutes."
Yes, I'm aware of the video showing Bryant interacting positively with Tony Romo and an assistant coach. The video is a little more than a minute long. Problem is, it's not footage of the scenes that made news all Sunday and Monday. It's a highlight of Bryant's "good" screaming. It's the same as if I released a one-minute clip on YouTube of me eating raw vegetables and leaving out the 19 minutes of me making love to a deep-dish, meat-lover's pizza.
I eat raw vegetables. But my 30 for 30 do entary better include sit-down interviews with Ronald McDonald, Colonel Sanders and Little Debbie.
Jason Witten wasn't yelling at Bryant and DeMarcus Ware wasn't restraining Bryant because he was shouting positive reinforcement at Romo and the coaching staff. Go sell that garbage somewhere else. Dez Bryant melted down Sunday, even if he littered his tantrum with a few positive words.
Brady and Manning have never done what Bryant did Sunday. Not even close. What Bryant did was akin to the tantrum thrown by my former high school teammate Jeff George when Falcons coach June Jones pulled him from a game in 1996. You remember that tantrum? And surely you remember the national media shredding George for doing it. You may also remember that Jeff George is and was white.
Like Dez Bryant, Jeff George was supremely talented. He'd thrown for 4,143 yards and 24 touchdowns in 1995. He'd been the overall No. 1 draft pick in 1990 and the NFL Rookie of the Year.
George's critics questioned his maturity and leadership ability. They wondered if his mental approach would undermine his chance of capitalizing on his immense physical gifts. No one, to my knowledge, ever intentionally or unintentionally insinuated there was a racist double standard causing the national media to criticize Jeff George. As the national president of the Jeff George Fan Club, I would've heard about this. It did not happen.
Honestly, I'm a bit surprised it didn't happen. Well, maybe not. George berated his head coach before the addiction to false equivalencies swept across America like crack cocaine in the 1980s. Politically partisan cable TV ushered in this epidemic. Bill O'Reilly is the Avon Barksdale of false equivalencies. Sean Hannity is Prop Joe.
But I shouldn't pick on political commentators. We love false equivalencies in the sports world, too. Remember in 2006 when the Tennessee ans had a contentious separation from quarterback Steve McNair? My favorite NFL player, Ray Lewis, said the Green Bay Packers and the Indianapolis Colts would never treat Brett Favre and Peyton Manning the way the ans treated McNair. Well, despite Favre's and Manning's combined seven MVP awards (McNair had one, shared with Manning in 2004), the Packers booted Favre in an ugly dispute and the Colts pushed Manning aside for Andrew Luck.
At least Ray Ray compared McNair to other quarterbacks. For the most part, comparing Dez Bryant to quarterbacks is nonsensical.
He plays receiver. It's a different lane and a different role from playing quarterback. Quarterbacks call plays. They bark instruction. They lead huddles. The very nature of the position dictates that quarterbacks yell at the line of scrimmage and occasionally yell at teammates. It's the job.
Dez Bryant isn't a quarterback. He's not a leader. He's a talented, high-maintenance wide receiver. He's so high-maintenance that a year ago Jerry Jones employed a team of "advisors" to help Bryant function as an adult. Jones gave Bryant a curfew and a set of guidelines pertaining to strip clubs and whatnot.
Dez Bryant isn't Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, Drew Brees or Russell Wilson. Dez Bryant is a typical, me-first NFL receiver diva, cut from the same cloth as Terrell Owens, Chad Johnson, Randy Moss and Keyshawn Johnson, sprinkled with a heavy dash of Pacman Jones. This is no secret. Diva receivers believe emotional sideline tantrums and elaborate, hey-look-at-me gimmicks are an extension of their "passion" for the game. They can't recognize the fine line between Ray Lewis' inspiring pregame dance and ranting for no good reason. Diva receivers are oblivious to the fact that offense is the intellectual side of football and defense is the emotional side.
Jerry Rice is the gold standard because he beat defenders with his head. Bryant won't catch Calvin Johnson by screaming.
Now I happen to like Dez Bryant. I like underdogs. I root for people from tough backgrounds who have emotional issues. I want to see them overcome. Bryant won't overcome if we lie to him and rationalize his obvious errors. He was clearly out of bounds on Sunday. He was too caught up in the one-on-one duel he was having inside his head between himself and Megatron.
Detroit QB Matt Stafford has no other passing options so he forced the ball to Megatron regardless of coverage. It's one of the reasons the Lions should've lost despite Johnson's breathtaking performance. With a more balanced approach, Dallas put 30 points on the board despite Tony Romo not being particularly sharp. Bryant wanted to go catch for catch with Johnson. It didn't happen. And Bryant demonstrated why Jerry Jones treats him like a child.
Some people have blamed Dallas coach Jason Garrett for not commanding enough respect to silence Bryant on the sideline. Garrett is powerless in his relationship with Bryant.
Bryant is the owner's pet project. Jones, who doubles as the team's GM, drafted Bryant. Jones has invested millions of dollars in Bryant. Jones paid for an elite baby-sitting team. Having watched his baby act like a baby and create the non-composed environment that powers fourth-quarter collapses, Jones defended his baby after the game.
And then the false equivalencies started rolling in via Twitter, radio and TV. I get the temptation. False equivalences are fun and easy. They're a good tool for defending someone you love and respect. There was a time in the 1990s when I would've excused Jeff George for hiding on the grassy knoll and assisting Lee Harvey Oswald by saying: "No one was mad at AC for driving O.J. all over the 405 and tying up traffic."
I'm as guilty as anyone. But let's stop the nonsense. We're only hurting Dez Bryant. We're baiting him to resist maturity and evolution. We're reinforcing bad habits. He apparently thinks the best way to handle a frustrating situation is by erupting emotionally. That's no good. It leads to trouble. He won't equal or surpass Calvin Johnson until he channels his emotions properly.
Jason Whitlock aint down for the cause
My Frost Brother, Jason WHITElock is the true definition of a house NEGRO. The WHITE man never even ASKED for this COON'S help! He's taking up ARMS for a topic NO ONE even mentioned! BEGGING for the approval of the WHITE man! 'MASSA, give me a COOKIE!'
The House NEGRO is the worst s on this EARTH. This BIG lipped orangutan will NEVER be accepted; he should STOP trying.
Allahu Akbar
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