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Manu.
So we have:
- Vince Carter, 36 y/o SG/SF coming off the bench for the mavs signed a 3 years contract for $ 9,3 M in 2011
- Manu Gino, 36 y/o SG/SF coming off the bench for the spurs signed a 2 years contract $ for 14,5 M in 2013
Who would you rather have tbh ?
Manu.
Because its Manu
makes sense tbhBecause its Manu
Manu lol
But VC would be a great bench player for our system. I was thinking last night. T-Mac would have too if he found playing time, tbh
Carter contract is one of the best value of the entire nba out of rookies contracts.
He is giving some very good offense for the mavs off the bench. Carter was also capable to recognize a long time ago that he needed to adapt his game to his TOSB status. He became a very underrated contributor.
I like what he is doing and the way mavs are using him
Sorry, this seemed appropriate for this lol...
But in all honesty, I think Manu. Sure, I might be biased, but I feel like when he's healthy, he can do so much more for this team from scrappy defense, to play-making, and can still open peoples eyes with his passes and finishing around the basket. This is going under the assumption both guy are healthy, I think Manu can do more. If VC isn't scoring/shooting well, what else does he offer at this stage in his career?
VC doesn't have the intangibles Manu has
I'll play at the risk of feeding a troll thread. I go Manu. Hes probably earning 2m more than we would all like, but what distinguishes him from carter is that he can still still be a big factor in at least one game a playoff series. Even in the finals he gave the spurs the energy and will to win Game 5 when inserted into the starting line up. Carter has never been a playoff performer even in his prime.
We all know the bench piece is misleading since Manu has come off the bench and played big minutes for some time now. But I'd argue that the spurs also got Belli to sign at a discount almost immediately after Manu signed with the Spurs. Belli indicated his desire to play with Manu as a factor for taking half the Cavs were offering. So I see Manu resigning as ~ 10m for each of the next two years for both those guys. That's not bad value if you ask me.
I wish all these Manu troll posts would just get deleted already. This has gotten so old. The guy has been a Spur for a decade and helped win 3 rings. First ballot Hall of Famer. How can you all be such disrespectful assholes? Father time is undefeated. It's life.
Better value.
Because its Manumakes sense
truespursfan ftw /thread
Manu. I still think that Manu can take over a game driving to the basket and lighting it up from behind the arc.
Manu is still great off the bench... Miami's bench.
Spurs could have had him instead of RJ, but the word on the street is this franchise doesn't make mistakes.
3/10
Manu Ginobili 7 days a week and twice on Sundays.
he can still run the offense and be the creator for the 2nd unit. that is invaluable. solid opening night from him, 12 points on 6-9 shooting, 4 rebounds, 5 assists to only 1 turnover, 2 steals. and this against what is one of the defenses around.
Carter played well in the opener too, but he's mostly just a scorer. he doesn't run the offense the way Manu is asked to
VC's contract is perhaps the best value contract in the NBA...
On the other hand, you have Nash making $9m this season...
Manu is somewhere in-between... fair market value, IMO.
Vince has been one of the best 2-way role players in the NBA since joining the Mavs, tbh..metrics had him as one of the better defensive wings in the league the past few seasons, as surprising as that is..
Manu's contract doesn't bother me, tbh..he's obviously overpaid now, but as others have repeated all Summer, he was underpaid for a long stretch of his career, he's earned a nice pay day..
And the Mavs actually haven't used Carter properly either, just like some have argued for the Spurs and Manu..
They asked him to defend opposing stars when Marion wasn't on the floor, and he was their #2 scoring option outside of Dirk, which is a role he clearly shouldn't assume at this point of his career..adding Ellis should change that, though..
Because Manu is a better playmaker than Carter. Manu can orchestrate and office whereas Carter is a scorer, who due to his age relies more on other's to facilitate his scoring.
Just look at the Mavs last year without Dirk or Calderon an Ellis. Carter was horrible for the most part. I watched some of the Mavs game last night, and about 70% of Carters points came off of feeds from Ellis and Calderon.
That being said, I would rather have Carter than Belinelli.
You're right, Manu just won a le for South Beach, what has Vince won?
Well said! In answer to your question, I believe many of them are jealous of the guy. They look at him and instead of being thankful for all he's done for the Spurs and the community, all they see is how little they've accomplished. We are very lucky to have a team that isn't just a bunch of mercenaries.
Ginobili. Carter is and has always been an overrated player due to his flashy style.
Carter has also never gone to a team and actually made them better. Check out his history, everywhere he goes, the team he goes to does WORSE.
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