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    Doesn't matter, one death by car is too many.... ban all cars!

    /boutons "logic"
    Guns are much more loosely regulated then cars wouldn't you say?

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    As a gun-totin, 2nd-amendment-huggin, water-the-tree gun fellator, what's your acceptable number of, eg, dead babies, kids, youth killed in gun accidents?
    Appears you are waiving the white strawman flag of defeat. Quantify your "more gun violence".

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    Appears you are waiving the white strawman flag of defeat. Quantify your "more gun violence".
    How about more firearm deaths per capita than any other OECD country with the exception of Mexico?

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    How about more firearm deaths per capita than any other OECD country with the exception of Mexico?
    Does firearms deaths include suicides in this data?

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    Does firearms deaths include suicides in this data?
    Yes, but it's also true if you just look at homicides.

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    Why limit it to OECD members?

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    Why limit it to OECD members?
    To filter out third world nations...we want to compare apples to apples as best we can, no?

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    To filter out third world nations...we want to compare apples to apples as best we can, no?
    Can we filter out our third worlds as well? Detroit, Chicago, New Orleans?

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    Appears you are waiving the white strawman flag of defeat.
    wishful thinking, my dear little -slapped gun fellator

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    Can we filter out our third worlds as well? Detroit, Chicago, New Orleans?
    so those gun-violence cities don't count as America for you gun fellators?

    Their, eg, black people who can obtain guns extremely easily thanks to you gun fellators and to the profit of gun sellers, aren't Real Americans?

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    wishful thinking, my dear little -slapped gun fellator
    Than instead of having Pusher define "more" for you why don't you do it yourself. What do YOU mean by more guns=more gun violence

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    so those gun-violence cities don't count as America for you gun fellators?

    Their, eg, black people who can obtain guns extremely easily thanks to you gun fellators and to the profit of gun sellers, aren't Real Americans?
    If Pusher is omitting certain countries to get the data he wants I don't see the problem in doing the same.

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    NRA Prevented Law That Could Have Saved 13-Year-Old From Police Shooting




    California police fatally shot 13-year-old Andy Lopez, because they mistook a BB gun for an assault rifle. In 2011, the National Rifle Association and gun manufacturers blocked the bill that could have prevented the tragedy.

    State Senator Kevin de León’s bill from two years ago may have prevented the police confusion, by requiring the guns to be brightly colored and noticeably distinguishable. Media Matters points out that the NRA-ILA had campaigned actively against the bill, alerting its members and lobbying state legislators in opposition. The NRA promoted claims that the bill would ban all air guns or would preempt federal law (even though similar measures have been upheld by court). After the bill’s defeat, the NRA celebrated and lauded itself for stopping “the imitation BB gun ban.”

    http://thinkprogress.org/justice/201...y-lopez-death/

    More dead kids and more blood on your hands, gun fellators.

    Last edited by boutons_deux; 11-01-2013 at 06:07 AM.

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    NRA Prevented Law That Could Have Saved 13-Year-Old From Police Shooting




    California police fatally shot 13-year-old Andy Lopez, because they mistook a BB gun for an assault rifle. In 2011, the National Rifle Association and gun manufacturers blocked the bill that could have prevented the tragedy.

    State Senator Kevin de León’s bill from two years ago may have prevented the police confusion, by requiring the guns to be brightly colored and noticeably distinguishable. Media Matters points out that the NRA-ILA had campaigned actively against the bill, alerting its members and lobbying state legislators in opposition. The NRA promoted claims that the bill would ban all air guns or would preempt federal law (even though similar measures have been upheld by court). After the bill’s defeat, the NRA celebrated and lauded itself for stopping “the imitation BB gun ban.”

    http://thinkprogress.org/justice/201...y-lopez-death/

    More dead kids and more blood on your hands, gun fellators.

    It was a tragic incident but give me a ing break by trying to blame this on the NRA. The cop should have showed more restraint, but I want to know what type of parent let's their 13 year old walk around in public with a pellet gun that looks like an AK47. And why didn't the kid drop it when told to do so? There is a reason these guns are only sold to those that are 18+.

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    the blood-thirsty, trigger-happy cop (shot the kid 7 times) is probably a member of NRA, at least in spirit.

    NRA blocked the bill, the NRA killed this kid.

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    The cop, the kid, and the kid's mother are at fault.

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    http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/story?se...sey&id=9313643

    Luckily, he only killed himself, but it was quite a scare in the 2nd strictest gun law state (NJ), boutons.

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    Obama was right, red necks clinging to their fetishes of guns and Bibles


    "I think there are two things that are not taught in our schools that should be: one is gun safety and the other one is values and religion,"

    http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewir...n-school-video

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    In January 2013, President Barack Obama issued 23 executive orders directing federal agencies to improve knowledge of the causes of firearm violence, what might help prevent it, and how to minimize its burden on public health. One of these orders directed the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) to, along with other federal agencies, immediately begin identifying the most pressing problems in firearm violence research. The CDC and the CDC Foundation asked the IOM, in collaboration with the National Research Council, to convene a committee tasked with developing a potential research agenda that focuses on the causes of, possible interventions to, and strategies to minimize the burden of firearm-related violence.

    http://www.nap.edu/catalog.php?record_id=18319

    From their findings....

    "Almost all national survey estimates indicate that defensive gun uses by victims are at least as common as offensive uses by criminals, with estimates of annual uses ranging from about 500,000 to more than 3 million per year…



    The estimate of 3 million defensive uses per year is based on an extrapolation from a small number of responses taken from more than 19 national surveys. The former estimate of 108,000 is difficult to interpret because respondents were not asked specifically about defensive gun use.

    A different issue is whether defensive use of guns, however numerous or rare they may be, are effective in preventing injury to the gun wielding crime victim. Studies that directly assessed the effect of actual defensive uses of guns (i.e., incidents in which a gun was “used” by the crime victim in the sense of attacking or threatening an offender) have found consistently lower injury rates among gun-using crime victims compared with victims who used other self protective strategies."

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    I'm dancing there?

    the truth you refuse: MORE GUNS = MORE GUN VIOLENCE AND MORE GUN DEATHS
    Zero guns in the country there would be zero deaths from guns. No other logic can be used. more guns = more gun violence because it becomes too easy for the guns to get into the wrong hands.

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    http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/story?se...sey&id=9313643

    Luckily, he only killed himself, but it was quite a scare in the 2nd strictest gun law state (NJ), boutons.
    There ARE NO strict gun states in the entire country.

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    Doesn't matter, one death by car is too many.... ban all cars!

    /boutons "logic"
    Don't be stupid.

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    I guess he doesn't realize that this same "logic" could easily be applied to pretty much anything that can kill someone?
    Don't be stupid.

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    There ARE NO strict gun states in the entire country.
    My state says o.

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    Still way too high as compared with other countries.

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