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KG is a fugazi who needed to find his alpha in Boston to win anything.
Sam Cassell:
- 1x NBA All-Star
- 1x All-NBA 2nd team
- 3x NBA champion
Latrel Sprewell:
- 4x NBA All-Star
- 1x All-NBA 1st team
- 1x All-D 2nd team
- 1x All-Rookie 2nd team
KG is a fugazi who needed to find his alpha in Boston to win anything.
Even if one subscribes to the argument that KG never had as good of talent around him, which is '03 is highly debatable, who is to blame for that? KG had to get himself paid before the CBA in '99, so his fat contract left the Wolves with little room to maneuver in free agency. Timmy on the other hand, has always taken less to allow the Spurs to build a team around him.
KG=Passion though right? Beating your own chest, throwing cheap shots at guards make KG a tough passionate player
TD=Class, and enough passion to have 4x rings.
KG's go-to move is a fall-away jumper.
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Duncan saved a franchise, and is regarded in many hearts as the greatest power forward to ever lace em up. Need we say more?
Well said.Even if one subscribes to the argument that KG never had as good of talent around him, which is '03 is highly debatable, who is to blame for that? KG had to get himself paid before the CBA in '99, so his fat contract left the Wolves with little room to maneuver in free agency. Timmy on the other hand, has always taken less to allow the Spurs to build a team around him.
KG=Passion though right? Beating your own chest, throwing cheap shots at guards make KG a tough passionate player
TD=Class, and enough passion to have 4x rings.
Right, like i said, their not Tony and Manu
Sure, but they weren't exactly scrubs either, even if they were probably not in their prime any more either.
For some perspective, here is Parker and Manu's resumes after their 2nd ring (Duncan's 3rd)
Parker: 1x All Rookie 1st
Manu: 1x All Star
After 3rd ring:
Parker: 1x All Rookie 1st, 2x All Star, 1x Finals MVP
Manu: 1x All Star
They were pretty evenly-matched in 2003-2004. They were close in their primes, but Tim was far better early in his career, and continues to be better late in his career.
The argument is really close. You have to admire the passion that KG has played with his entire career, and if you replaced KG with Duncan on this team you probably still have 2-3 les. The biggest difference is how much we relied on Duncan in big games down the stretch. KG has always needed that second guy to carry the load offensively at the end of games.
Lol oh man... this brings back memories of when I used to debate Tim Duncan over Kevin Garnett at rapmusic..com back in 2006 when I felt that KG stole and MVP from Duncan winning it 3 years in a row.
Bout to see if I can unearth some gems.
I always summed up Duncan's game vs Garnett's as Dominance of Versatility.
It was so simple but people couldn't, or didn't want to comprehend.
Sure Garnett could run the point, but so the what. When it comes time to win the game, you want your main guy to take it into his hands. Duncan did that, Garnett was a shrinking violet. End of story.
Now Lebron... had a special game. We live in the age of media hyperbole, where writers try to make things greater than they are.
And for people saying this was the greatest NBA performance of all time are just bags.
But considering the age of Lebron, and the stage it's on, and the manner in which he took this game over, it was a pretty special game.
James went off, but who was there in the middle to stop him? Tayshaun is supposed to get abused by Lebron. Rasheed is supposed to get abused by Lebron. Maxiel was falling down for Lebron. Mcdyess was tossed out early.
My only thing is that, the Pistons defense looked horrible. They didn't get in his way, and half of James drives to the basket were basically him just running past hapless defenders. At least four times, defenders just watched James go by. And no one was stepping in for the charge.
Of course James was the reason, him being a menacing presence, but Detriot's implosion was a factor.. the Pistons were in shock and demoralized. The kind of defensive meltdown they had is indicative of a team with chemistry problems.
A telling scene was when Lebron made this off balanced shot, and in the background you see Chris Webber look at James with the same face he had when Horry nailed the shot to beat the Kings. Not again.
Good stuff, huge leap for Lebron. That's maturity setting in. That's a person realizing they can impose their will and dominate.
I'm sure Duncan will eat a few jams, so will half the Spurs team. But you won't see them lay down like Detriot did. Manu's taking a charge even if he gets a broken rib.
Bring on the King.
*** ahh I guess I wrote this after the game Lebron scored all those points in the 4th to snatch victory from the Pistons back in 2007... before we were to meet the Cavs in the finals. We swept them that year, our last year winning it all. The details are murky but ahhhh makes me grin thinking about it.
TD > KG
FACT
'nuff said.
Anyone saying Gay-G didn't have the talent around him that Duncan did is simply discounting how much better TD makes the players around him.
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