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    Baynes sucks, some hyped him up alot on here but he is very limited to be honest. I hope he looked alot better than that stiff.
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    Baynes had a bad game but he misssed 4 shots he normally makes. He was getting good looks. That pass to Mills out at the 3 point line is inexcusable. Defensively he was fine. He had another block above the rim and Henry was bailed out by the refs. Baynes was not hacking and picking up stupid fouls like he used to.

    That being said, Ayres is not a good rebounder. I see far too many rebounds in his area going to the guy he is competing with. He does absolutely nothing to defend the rim. He does not even try to challenge shots. And his jumpshot looks like godawful .

    But hey he has good effort.

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    I think his shots will fall better and he will grab few more rebounds as the season progresses. I think that's about as high as we can expect from him.

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    Ayers is a long-term project and minute burner for the regular season... he might or might not pan out. He's just played his 2nd game as a Spur, and is barely getting his feet wet with the team and system.
    lol at a 26 year old being a project player. And 2 mil is expensive for someone that's supposed to be in development. I don't see anything useful in his game beside his hustle. He can't score, can't defend, can't rebound. Usually, role players excell in at one or two things - Bonner's a 3 point specialist, Tiago's a great help defender and PnR scorer, etc. Ayers isn't good at anything. He's an overpaid D-League level player.

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    lol at a 26 year old being a project player. And 2 mil is expensive for someone that's supposed to be in development. I don't see anything useful in his game beside his hustle. He can't score, can't defend, can't rebound. Usually, role players excell in at one or two things - Bonner's a 3 point specialist, Tiago's a great help defender and PnR scorer, etc. Ayers isn't good at anything. He's an overpaid D-League level player.
    It was surprising how bad the shots he made against the lakers... he was open... but both were airballs!!!

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    that jumpshot tho

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    I was expecting a lot more from the guy that cost us a shot at bringing in AK
    The Spurs signed Mikhail Prokhorov? That's who cost us the chance at AK47.

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    Another big who isn't coordinated, not much of an athlete, who miraculously arrived in the NBA w/o a clue how to shoot a basketball.

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    You guys crack me up. Everyone thinks they know everything and is the best couch coach in the world. How about you have faith in a front office who does nothing but win and make smart choices? Yeah they make the odd mistake but unlike other teams this team is setup to keep winning. I remember people writing off Splitter first year and well look at him now. Oh he is soft...Dude games, and is valuable to this team. Give Ayers and Baynes more time to work with Duncan and Splitter and watch how they turn out. By no means will either of them be 15 pt a game guys but they will serve a purpose or keep crying over stuff that did not happen (AK47) or trading someone away for someone that will never happen..

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    If Ayers could play like Elson, that would be nice.

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    so far he looks worse than Blair. I mean both of the new guys look pretty lost.

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    And the Spurs missed this:
    Vitor Faverani: Undrafted 25 years old Brazilian, 6'11 260 lbs, signed with Boston for 2 millions, scored 12 pts(4-6 FG), 18 rebounds, 6 blks in 37 minutes
    He dunks too much for the Spurs. And his look doesn't seems to be the Pop's favorite style.




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    lol at a 26 year old being a project player. And 2 mil is expensive for someone that's supposed to be in development. I don't see anything useful in his game beside his hustle. He can't score, can't defend, can't rebound. Usually, role players excell in at one or two things - Bonner's a 3 point specialist, Tiago's a great help defender and PnR scorer, etc. Ayers isn't good at anything. He's an overpaid D-League level player.
    It's a $1.75m/season deal and what's the problem with him being 26? He has two seasons get better within the system, or the Spurs will let him walk. If he pans out, he's an excellent deal (don't forget Tiago was signed for $3m/season, and we didn't know how he'll adapt to the NBA).

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    Ayers was a journeyman before the Spurs signed him, strictly end of the bench guy. I'm surprised anyone portrayed this as an important pickup. Once Duncan is back he'll get strictly Blair minutes.

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    He dunks too much for the Spurs. And his look doesn't seems to be the Pop's favorite style.



    Wow! He can shoot, can move well, he's fast, not look soft. Damn!

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    2 games folks.... Lets give him 15-20 games under his belt and see where he is then. His activity was good, but definitely made some poor decisions.

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    Gary Neal didn't develop enough to make the jump to the NBA until he was 26. Takes some players longer tbh.

    We'll see what he becomes. For two years on the cheap it's not a big deal.

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    i'll cut him some slack, but he was awful yesterday.

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    It's a $1.75m/season deal and what's the problem with him being 26? He has two seasons get better within the system, or the Spurs will let him walk. If he pans out, he's an excellent deal (don't forget Tiago was signed for $3m/season, and we didn't know how he'll adapt to the NBA).
    So this is how you possibly waste Duncan's last years by signing a two year project to MLE money. Oh, and the goods is the Spurs can let him walk when Duncan retires. This is the kind of signing teams makes when they're tanking for Wiggins, not trying to build a championship contender. Who needs a player like Kirilenko when the Spurs can overpay (the theme of the off season) a player who couldn't even beat out Mahimni for fifth big on Indiana's depth chart. He wasn't good enough in Indiana and the coaching staff knew it but he's good enough to get rotation minutes in San Antonio.

    Oh, and under NO cir stance does he make Bonner expendable.

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    So this is how you possibly waste Duncan's last years by signing a two year project to MLE money. Oh, and the goods is the Spurs can let him walk when Duncan retires. This is the kind of signing teams makes when they're tanking for Wiggins, not trying to build a championship contender. Who needs a player like Kirilenko when the Spurs can overpay (the theme of the off season) a player who couldn't even beat out Mahimni for fifth big on Indiana's depth chart. He wasn't good enough in Indiana and the coaching staff knew it but he's good enough to get rotation minutes in San Antonio.

    Oh, and under NO cir stance does he make Bonner expendable.
    What are you talking about? Ayres will fill Blair's role on the team, which means that unless he suddenly becomes some sort of amazing talent, he won't even sniff playoff minutes. The bigs rotation when it matters is Tim/Tiago/Diaw, just like last season.

    And you have the AK story all backwards. The Spurs needed the Wolves to do them a solid to get Kirilenko, and Flip Saunders didn't want to. Ayres is the Spurs filling up the roster after that.

    You also need to check what "MLE money" means... $1.75m a season is lower than any of the MLEs available (non-taxpayer, taxpayer, room and bi-annual)...

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    So this is how you possibly waste Duncan's last years by signing a two year project to MLE money. Oh, and the goods is the Spurs can let him walk when Duncan retires. This is the kind of signing teams makes when they're tanking for Wiggins, not trying to build a championship contender. Who needs a player like Kirilenko when the Spurs can overpay (the theme of the off season) a player who couldn't even beat out Mahimni for fifth big on Indiana's depth chart. He wasn't good enough in Indiana and the coaching staff knew it but he's good enough to get rotation minutes in San Antonio.

    Oh, and under NO cir stance does he make Bonner expendable.
    1) MLE money is $5.15M so, no, he's not making MLE money.
    2) Once Minny decided NOT to S&T AK47, there was only one place he was going: Brooklyn. You can't sign a player who is determined to sign elsewhere.

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    Such insight

    Baynes had a bad game but he misssed 4 shots he normally makes. He was getting good looks. That pass to Mills out at the 3 point line is inexcusable. Defensively he was fine. He had another block above the rim and Henry was bailed out by the refs. Baynes was not hacking and picking up stupid fouls like he used to.

    That being said, Ayres is not a good rebounder. I see far too many rebounds in his area going to the guy he is competing with. He does absolutely nothing to defend the rim. He does not even try to challenge shots. And his jumpshot looks like godawful .

    But hey he has good effort.
    Baynes normally makes those shots when? He has not really proven to make shots in game yet, until then it's heresay what he can do basically what I am getting at. His game is very limited, big body but no real post game or shot to speak of. He can be more of a big body putback man and thats his ceiling IMO.

    I agree on Ayres though, no arguments there.

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    1) MLE money is $5.15M so, no, he's not making MLE money.
    2) Once Minny decided NOT to S&T AK47, there was only one place he was going: Brooklyn. You can't sign a player who is determined to sign elsewhere.
    i see my fellow spurs fans like to believe this story, but the truth is we should have waited and ak47 would be with us. He only took the team who offered him more and was a contender..

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    AK47 looks done. It looks like he is running in wet cement, out there. Spurs may have dodged a bullet there..

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    i see my fellow spurs fans like to believe this story, but the truth is we should have waited and ak47 would be with us. He only took the team who offered him more and was a contender..
    It's a double-edged sword... you wait too long and Belli/Ayres are no longer available, then you have to potentially make do with even worse talent.

    IMO, if AK really wanted to be with us, he would've pressured Minny to make it happen. I never heard AK even hinting he wanted to be in our team.

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    Ayres needs to stop shooting as soon as he gets the ball. Probably just nerves but he needs to settle down and look to pass to the open man. Or start hitting his shots...

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