The Curious Brainwashing Case of ...

[xmas1997]

I meant to say we are constantly in the process of honing models and using the best models to fit our perceived results. Newtonian mechanics works extraordinarily well and is learned by every engineering student. But Einsteins modeling of gravity is more precise.

I have no idea what you mean by development of being. I have no idea what a higher state of being means. Ockhams razor is used to get rid of totally frivolous explanations, especially if they invoke the supernatural as in my example.

I was was trained as science guy and I realize the limitations that an ape like creature that evolved for life on grassy plains littered with trees and our exquisite efforts to invent symbolic language are lacking. We can't directly sense radio waves or make physical models for many phenomena that math explains much better. Tough luck for us, I don't believe we were predetermined to exist to understand the natural world. I'm fine with that.

Thus this thread will not lead me to just start making stuff up. I'm not going to pounce upon some grand unified theory of consciousness and being just to make myself comfy. Or pretend like I know what states of being are. If you are referring to recognition of self among individuals, ability to empathize, question how a bundle of neurons calls itself me, the evolution of symbolic language, we can take those on separately. But I don't know what a poor state of being is. We cannot begin to communicate on this being stuff.

And I don't know all the history of various conflicts on this board. I don't play games of praise unless I think I really learn something new. I just have not found it here. The interest I have is how wacked out various posters are. I had no idea there existed such a misunderstanding between various methods people choose to ask questions that interest them. Curious brainwashing... Non potable water on the head. I'm done.

Good post IMHO. You know my background now too. As for the insanity that blossomed unexpectedly, that happens, best to let it slide off you like water on duck feathers.
Your input is most welcome. Truth comes in all forms and sizes, and every source and profession under the sun. No one has a monopoly on it.
IMHO we all have things we can learn in order to expand our awareness of things. I don't know about God, I have my own ideas about Him, but Truth can come from anywhere.

[xmas1997]

Damn, you are ing funny too!
What the just happened with fluffy?

[SA210]

Damn, you are ing funny too!
What the just happened with fluffy?

[xmas1997]

What a bleeding vagina that fuzzy got turned out to be. Smh

What just happened with fluffy?
He went waaaay off the spectrum.

[silverblk mystix]

[xmas1997]

Honestly, I don't think I have ever seen anything like that before.
Is it ok to laugh now? You can cut the tension with a knife!

I even asked him to the GTG.

[xmas1997]

No mate, I am from Christchurch but have visited some of those areas where they filmed like Wellington, Mt. Victoria and South Lakes and there are some heavenly places but I visited as a young lad. I need to go there again soon.
Cheers.

Jake, are you anywhere near San Antonio, or Austin?

[Jake the Muss]

Jake, are you anywhere near San Antonio, or Austin?

Sorry mate, I am on the far side of the planet!
Cheers.

[xmas1997]

Sorry mate, I am on the far side of the planet!
Cheers.

Up early?

[Jake the Muss]

Up early?

No mate, it is almost 7pm here.

[xmas1997]

I meant to say we are constantly in the process of honing models and using the best models to fit our perceived results. Newtonian mechanics works extraordinarily well and is learned by every engineering student. But Einsteins modeling of gravity is more precise.

I have no idea what you mean by development of being. I have no idea what a higher state of being means. Ockhams razor is used to get rid of totally frivolous explanations, especially if they invoke the supernatural as in my example.

I was was trained as science guy and I realize the limitations that an ape like creature that evolved for life on grassy plains littered with trees and our exquisite efforts to invent symbolic language are lacking. We can't directly sense radio waves or make physical models for many phenomena that math explains much better. Tough luck for us, I don't believe we were predetermined to exist to understand the natural world. I'm fine with that.

Thus this thread will not lead me to just start making stuff up. I'm not going to pounce upon some grand unified theory of consciousness and being just to make myself comfy. Or pretend like I know what states of being are. If you are referring to recognition of self among individuals, ability to empathize, question how a bundle of neurons calls itself me, the evolution of symbolic language, we can take those on separately. But I don't know what a poor state of being is. We cannot begin to communicate on this being stuff.

And I don't know all the history of various conflicts on this board. I don't play games of praise unless I think I really learn something new. I just have not found it here. The interest I have is how wacked out various posters are. I had no idea there existed such a misunderstanding between various methods people choose to ask questions that interest them. Curious brainwashing... Non potable water on the head. I'm done.

I don't know if you read the first page of this thread, but that is where the premiss was laid down by SBM. To come in on it at the end here would only give you a skewed idea of where it has gone since then. In between the pissing contests there have been some great ideas and opinions expressed that IMHO are worthy of keeping the discussion alive.
So to get an good grasp of the topic you really need to read the first 6 or so pages.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I hope he does put me on ignore, then I don't have to worry about the poor dude. Seriously!
At least then he would quit following me around trying to make a mockery of my posts, and trying to bait me into his pissing contests! He must have a "thing" against neutrality.

Damn, you are ing funny too!
What the just happened with fluffy?

You hope I put you on ignore and wonder where I went?

Thanks, avante.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

No mate, it is almost 7pm here.

In Sacramento?

[Jake the Muss]

In Sacramento?

I'd prefer not to converse mate as you seemed to be in a fragile state the last time. Or you can read the page I already answered that query.
Cheers.

[xmas1997]

You hope I put you on ignore and wonder where I went?

Thanks, avante.

Avante? Are you seeing ghosts again?
Just put me on ignore. That would save you a lot of grief and maybe allow you to catch up on your REM sleep.

[silverblk mystix]

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Avante? Are you seeing ghosts again?
Just put me on ignore. That would save you a lot of grief and maybe allow you to catch up on your REM sleep.

Nah, you still try to 'mediate' far too often. Have fun with your circle jerk. I am off to do something else.

[xmas1997]

I'd prefer not to converse mate as you seemed to be in a fragile state the last time. Or you can read the page I already answered that query.
Cheers.

I have found that for the most part it is best to let fuzzy have his tantrums and just disregard his posts. He seems to have a hard time maintaining a civil non hostile demeanor. So I just let him have his say, but then I resist replying to him so as to not get him any more excited.
Rather, I reply to the other posters who express a genuine desire to discuss and share their ideas and experiences in regard to the topic.

[xmas1997]

Nah, you still try to 'mediate' far too often. Have fun with your circle jerk. I am off to do something else.

Case in point.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I have found that for the most part it is best to let fuzzy have his tantrums and just disregard his posts. He seems to have a hard time maintaining a civil non hostile demeanor. So I just let him have his say, but then I resist replying to him so as to not get him any more excited.
Rather, I reply to the other posters who express a genuine desire to discuss and share their ideas and experiences in regard to the topic.

still trying to bait. i'll be back later.

[xmas1997]

You still up? It's almost 1:30am.
Or did you just now finally stop laughing?
Man, was that bizarre behavior, or what?
I am still flabbergasted.

[xmas1997]

still trying to bait. i'll be back later.

See what I mean?
Later?
It's almost time to retire for the night.
I value my REM sleep.
You should really get some too, seriously.

[silverblk mystix]

See what I mean?
Later?
It's almost time to retire for the night.
I value my REM sleep.
You should really get some too, seriously.

Good nite

[FuzzyLumpkins]

See what I mean?
Later?
It's almost time to retire for the night.
I value my REM sleep.
You should really get some too, seriously.

Perhaps you should consider why you feel the need to hide what your intentions are. Why you need to present yourself as something that you are not.

For example, you have responded to each and everyone of my posts. I try to examine what you write. You have no interest in examining it because it only serves to justify the inane back and forth that this forum has become.

The truth can be found anywhere? You are trying to mediate? We need to grow to be able to accept the truth?

When I refute the validity of all of that you instead claim you ignore my posts but really what you do is try your moralisms. That is all you ahve done from the very beginning. So I call you a disingenuous charlatan.

I'm not going to go in this inane back and forth. I will simply ignore the circle jerk and address people that give credence to you bull . As I say you guys are not my intended audience.

Bad night.

[xmas1997]

Perhaps you should consider why you feel the need to hide what your intentions are. Why you need to present yourself as something that you are not.

For example, you have responded to each and everyone of my posts. I try to examine what you write. You have no interest in examining it because it only serves to justify the inane back and forth that this forum has become.

The truth can be found anywhere? You are trying to mediate? We need to grow to be able to accept the truth?

When I refute the validity of all of that you instead claim you ignore my posts but really what you do is try your moralisms. That is all you ahve done from the very beginning. So I call you a disingenuous charlatan.

I'm not going to go in this inane back and forth. I will simply ignore the circle jerk and address people that give credence to you bull . As I say you guys are not my intended audience.

Bad night.

Hmm, opinions, facts, and fiction, these are concepts you seem to have a problem wrapping your mind around.
Did you get any REM sleep?
Really, you need some laughter in your life in the worst way.
Maybe if you took a sabbatical from ST you could get a little of both.
Just saying, ......... and a bit concerned about your mental state of being.
A fuzzy mind is, as a fuzzy mind does.

However since it isn't too too late I'll give you the benefit of the doubt one more time. Let's break it down, shall we?

Moralism, (conventional moral maxim or at ude)
Mediate, (occupying a middle position)
Disingenuous, (not genuinely sincere)
Charlatan, (a person who makes fraudulent claims)
Credence, (acceptance as true)
Intended, (aimed at)
Inane, (silly)
Truth, (actual state of a matter)
Audience, (listeners collectively)

And all of these big and scary words used in the same post?
Well done, fuzzy. I am quite surprised, actually.

But you do realize, don't you, that it only serves to strengthen your argument, when you know the meaning of those words. That is why I broke them all down for you so you could better understand what you wrote.

No thanks needed.

But why didn't you also use NEUTRALITY, while you were at it?
Neutrality, (refusal to take part in a war)
But then that might have been too much loss of brain synapses to overcome.

There, there, all better now?