The above message was paid for by the How the are we supposed to commit voter fraud if we can't use illegal aliens as voter registrars? Political Action Commitee.
TX Repugs voter suppression requires registrars and voter registration activists to be US citizens and TX legal residents, but TX Repugs allow unlimited $Ms from out of state, even from out of country, to buy legislative influence and fraud and pay for Repug campaigns.
Get off your high horse. The Dems do the same if not more.
Are TX Dems suppressing LEGAL voters?
Have you stopped beating your boyfriend?
I am actually against abortion. I don't plan on having one any time soon.
What I am not for, though, is forced births. I don't see that as the governments job to force women to give birth.
Have you pulled your head out of your ass, yet? you really present a huge case for it being firmly up there.
I wish I could disagree. The average Republican I know is generally a reasonable person, but those aren't the people in the GOP running for, and getting, office.
The strong Dominionist streak in the GOP should worry anyone. Those people are scary.
"The average Republican I know is generally a reasonable person"
some of them even walk among us.
if Repugs are so reasonable, even moderate!, how do so many extreme fringe anarchist assholes get elected to Congress and state legislatures, governors.
eg:
"Cruz won the runoff for the Republican nomination with a 14-point margin over Dewhurst.[67] In the November 6 general election, Cruz faced Democrat Paul Sadler, an attorney and a former state representative from Henderson, in east Texas. Cruz won with 4.5 million votes (56.4%) to Sadler's 3.2 million (40.6%)."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Cruz#2012_election
Name one Democrat policy initiative that can arguably be thought of as suppressing voter turnout.
Just.
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one.
True true.
The average Republican voter does shoulder the blame for the tea party lunatics and the ideological litmus tests they seem to apply to meet the primary bar.
The moderates are not getting out in enough numbers to counterbalance the extremists who are slobbering at the mouth to go vote for every knuckle-dragging whackadoo that can repeat the standard pick-up lines better than their opponents.
They consistently try to suppress the military vote because of the predominately conservative make-up of our service members. I'm tired right now, so don't make me hunt down any links to back that up. Just do me a solid and trust me on this one. Thanks.
"They consistently try to suppress the military vote because of the predominately conservative make-up of our service members"
evidence? I know there was totally Repug fabricated scandal about this in 04 or 08, but in the end, it was found to be fabricated.
Former U.S. House Speaker Jim Wright Denied Voter ID Card
Former U.S. House Speaker Jim Wright (D-TX) was denied a voter ID card thanks to Texas's strict voter ID law.
"Nobody was ugly to us, but they insisted that they wouldn't give me an ID," 90-year-old Wright said according to the Forth Worth Star-Telegram.
Wright said he previously realized earlier in the week that the identification he had to vote, a Texas Christian University faculty ID and a Texas driver's license that expired in 2010, did not meet the criteria of the new voter ID law.
When Wright and his assistant went to the Texas Department of Public Safety office to try and get a new ID card, officials said that he indeed did not have the right identification. Wright told the Texas newspaper he plans to return on Monday with his birth certificate which officials said will be sufficient to get a voter ID card.
"I earnestly hope these unduly stringent requirements on voters won't dramatically reduce the number of people who vote," Wright said.
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewir...-voter-id-card
He's a Democrat? Mission Accomplished!
One down, 20 million to go.Former U.S. House Speaker Jim Wright Denied Voter ID Card
Former U.S. House Speaker Jim Wright (D-TX) was denied a voter ID card thanks to Texas's strict voter ID law.
"Nobody was ugly to us, but they insisted that they wouldn't give me an ID," 90-year-old Wright said according to the Forth Worth Star-Telegram.
Wright said he previously realized earlier in the week that the identification he had to vote, a Texas Christian University faculty ID and a Texas driver's license that expired in 2010, did not meet the criteria of the new voter ID law.
When Wright and his assistant went to the Texas Department of Public Safety office to try and get a new ID card, officials said that he indeed did not have the right identification. Wright told the Texas newspaper he plans to return on Monday with his birth certificate which officials said will be sufficient to get a voter ID card.
"I earnestly hope these unduly stringent requirements on voters won't dramatically reduce the number of people who vote," Wright said.
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewir...-voter-id-card
He's a Democrat? Mission Accomplished!
Maddow: Good luck voting today if you aren’t white
On Monday night’s edition of “The Rachel Maddow Show,” host Rachel Maddow had a look at the various ways in which Republicans are trying to keep people from voting on this Election Day, particularly people who belong to typically Democratic cons uencies like African-Americans and students.
In Texas, for example, Maddow explained, in the last few elections whites have voted overwhelmingly Republican, whereas African-Americans and Latinos have voted overwhelmingly Democrat. Similarly, party votes broke down among income groups. People making $50,000 per year or more tended to vote Republican and poorer people have voted Democrat.
The Republican-dominated state legislature has enacted a series of stringent voter ID laws as well as other measures designed to disproportionately impact minority voters and poor people.
“Texas Republicans are thinking, ‘There’s got to be a way to keep these folks from voting,’” Maddow said. “There’s got to be a way to keep them away.”
Similar efforts are underway in other states having elections today like New Jersey and Virginia.
“That dynamic that is at work in Texas, that is about ‘Who’s going to be allowed to vote?’” said Maddow. “That dynamic is happening all over the country.”
Maddow welcomed Texas Democratic Rep. Marc Veasey, who agreed that the ID laws in Texas are specifically designed by Republicans to keep Democratic voters from the polls.
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/11/0...u-arent-white/
Hmmm. If you are too tired to support that, I will call that fair and look it up myself.
Here is the first bits:
First the conservative charges:
Read Latest Breaking News from Newsmax.com http://www.newsmax.com/headline/ohio...#ixzz2jnx8QNaq“I’m just outraged by this,” DeWine told Fox on Friday.
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Looks like a stretch, but pressing on:
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/a...t-counted.html
Meh, I see a lot of re-hashing of accusations, but little supporting data. "copy - paste" syndrome that passes for critical thinking among conservatives, sadly.
Looking outside the information bubble, it starts to smell worse and worse:
http://www.factcheck.org/2012/08/oba...-early-voting/
Mitt Romney wrongly suggests the Obama campaign is trying to “undermine” the voting rights of military members through a lawsuit filed in Ohio. The suit seeks to block state legislation that limited early voting times for nonmilitary members; it doesn’t seek to impose restrictions on service members.Read more at http://www.snopes.com/politics/ballo...TJSkUs5JHcO.99Claim: The Obama campaign is seeking to restrict military voting in Ohio.
FALSE
A much more in-depth article that looks at all possible aspects:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/rickunga...tee-ballots/2/
So, I will call bull , unless you got something better than what I was able to find. Ish, this is what I get for trying to wade through the swamp of conservative group-think stupidity. I need a shower to wash the stupid off now.
Looks like you aren't as tired as you said you were.
Get cracking. Your charge, your burden of proof.
Just.
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one.
It wasn't that hard after all.
Obama Campaign Sues in Bid to Suppress Military Vote
Friday, 03 Aug 2012 07:51 PM
By Todd Beamon
In a move that could have an impact on the final result of the presidential election, Barack Obama’s campaign has sued Ohio to block a measure which extends early voting for members of the military.
The action brought quick responses from Ohio Attorney General Mike DeWine and as many as 15 military groups.
DeWine told Fox News on Friday that he found the July 17 action by Obama campaign, the Democratic National Committee and the Ohio Democratic Party “quite shocking."
The tradition for allowing special cir stances for military personnel in voting dates back to the civil war, he said.
Republicans traditionally have had the lock on the military vote, and with Ohio being a key battleground state especially this year — Obama leads GOP challenger Mitt Romney there by only 6 points in the latest Quinnipiac University poll — these military votes could swing the Nov. 6 election to either candidate.
And as the Buckeye State is considered one of the key marginals, a victory for either candidate there could end up being the difference between taking the White House and losing it.
“I’m just outraged by this,” DeWine told Fox on Friday. “I can’t believe that the Obama campaign [and] the state Democratic Party are actually saying there’s no rational basis for a distinction between someone who is in the military voting, and somebody not in the military.
“Our whole history in this country, we’ve made a distinction between the two, recognizing the difficulties, and the unique situation that people in the military are in.”
The Obama campaign sued Republicans DeWine and Secretary of State Jon Husted, contending Ohio’s two-tiered early voting process violates the U.S. Cons ution’s guarantees of equal protection under the law.
Ohio is among 32 states that allow voters to cast an early ballot by mail or in person without an excuse. In 2008, about 30 percent of the swing state's total vote — or roughly 1.7 million ballots — came in ahead of Election Day.
In addition, state law allows families of armed forces members and civilians overseas to vote through the Monday before an election, while early voting for all other Ohioans ends the preceding Friday. The Nov. 6 election falls on a Tuesday.
The Obama lawsuit said that the latter part of the Ohio law is “arbitrary” with “no discernible rational basis” — and that all voters should be able to vote on those days. The campaign seeks a court order invalidating the statutes.
In his response, filed late on Wednesday, DeWine noted that all Ohioans have numerous voting options, which include casting an absentee by mail starting 35 days before the election, casting an in-person ballot on other days, and voting at their polling location on Election Day.
Ohio, with 18 electoral votes, has been critical to U.S. politics, and no Republican has been elected president without a victory there. Obama won the state in 2008 with 51.5 percent of the vote.
But remaining ahead of his Republican opponent is proving tougher for Obama this time around. A survey by Quinnipiac University earlier this week shows the president leading Romney by only 6 points, 50 to 44 percent.
The military vote has traditionally gone Republican. In 2008, Obama lost among veterans to Arizona Sen. John McCain, a Vietnam War hero, 55 to 45 percent. Four years earlier, GOP President George W. Bush outdistanced Massachusetts Sen. John F. Kerry, another Vietnam veteran, among former service personnel by 57 to 41 percent.
In addition, military members and their families generally tend to vote in higher percentages than the general public, according to federal election data.
The Obama for America lawsuit comes after several election-law changes cleared Ohio’s Republican-controlled legislature and GOP Gov. John Kasich signed them.
Before the changes, local election boards had the discretion to set their own early, in-person voting hours on the days before the election. People were allowed up until the day before the election to vote in person. Weekend voting varied among the state's 88 counties.
With the changes, most Ohioans now have until the Friday evening before the Tuesday election to cast a ballot in person. But military voters can continue to vote in person until Monday.
Separately, the National Guard Association of the United States and more than a dozen other fraternal military groups asked a U.S. judge for permission to intervene and oppose the Democrats' lawsuit.
“Members of the U.S. Armed Forces risk their lives to keep this nation safe and defend the fundamental cons utional right to vote,” the military groups said in in their request.
“The Obama campaign’s and Democratic National Committee’s argument that it is arbitrary and uncons utional to afford special consideration, flexibility, and accommodations to military voters to make it easier for them to vote in person is not only offensive, but flatly wrong as a matter of law,” the groups said.
They’ve asked U.S. District Judge Peter Economus for permission to join the case on the side of the state, and to oppose the Obama campaign’s request for injunctive relief. A hearing is scheduled for Aug. 15.
http://www.newsmax.com/headline/ohio...8/03/id/447552
Can We Give Texas Back Yet?
s it happens, I spent the last few days wandering the places where the last major nullification/secession movement came a'cropper. These included places like Chickamauga, Chattanooga, and Antietam. In walking the trails and cowpaths and Sunken Roads, one comes inevitably to the conclusion drawn by my good pal, Roy Blount, Jr. - that secession was a bad idea at the time, and looks even worse in retrospect. (I'm not kidding. Strolling down Bloody Lane at Antietam will knock you into some deep thinking about the idiocy of that particular American heresy.) Comes now, via Ed Kilgore, the work of Warren Throckmorton at Patheos wherein we learn that the Republican senatorial primary in Texas may be contested entirely on the grounds of blatant historical horse .
As I reported on Monday, David Barton has been asked by some tea party folks to consider a challenge to Cornyn. The spin is that Barton has party experience, broad name recognition, and, probably with Glenn Beck's help, could access adequate funds for a Senate campaign.
Oh, please, big baby Jeebus, you know I'm your amigo. Let this happen. Barton is one of America's consummate political charlatans. His life's work is dedicated to proving that the Founders were as god-nutty as he is. He has not been particularly honest in this regard; the people who study Mr. Madison's life particularly would like to come across his path while carrying a large sock of manure.
Reading further, we find that some of the other potential candidates make Barton look like Will Durant.
Stovall is VP of the Houston chapter of the Refounding Father Society. The society seems to have much in common with the League of the South, especially a preoccupation with nullification and interposition. The society's website refers visitors to Mike Church's Founder's Library. Church is a radio talk show host who shares at least some common ground with the League (e.g., dislike of Lincoln, promotion of secession and nullification). Stovall might appeal to the far, far right but could be too extreme for the GOP, even in TX.
Not that I think that John Cornyn necessarily is in trouble - Barton, in particular, is notably shy about taking his bizarre beliefs out for a walk beyond the confines of a Michele Bachmann rally - but it is an indication of how solid and lasting the rightwing bubble likely will be.
They have their own scientific and natural laws.
They have their own history.
They are embattled on all sides.
This is not going away any time soon. It is firmly rooted in the politics of the states. It will take decades to dig it out again
http://readersupportednews.org/opinion2/277-75/20211-can-we-give-texas-back-yet
iow, more Ted Cruz, Mike Lee, Santorum, R Paul, Gingrich, etc, etc, are on their way to DC and state houses. America is ED and UN ABLE
Already debunked in my earlier post that you didn't bother reading.
Factcheck.org
Sorry, that is a very solid fail.
(sighs)
Lazy, lazy, lazy.
Last edited by RandomGuy; 11-05-2013 at 04:17 PM. Reason: readability and clarity
Guilty. FYI, Snopes.com and factcheck.org are lefty sites.
yep, facts are lefty, fantasies and myths are righty.
politifact otoh, is thoroughly trashed by RM.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...itifact-again/
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...XzHU_blog.html
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