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Same could be said of Obama.
except he decided to do something instead of nothing, nothing being the forte of Herby.
Yeah, Bush 41 was the best Foreign Policy President we had in a long time...and he was reasonable in increasing taxes because it was the right thing to do...but his own party turned on him over taxes and failed to support him against Clinton. That, plus Greenspan really screwed him on the timing of the interest increases. The result of those increases was so problematic for the economy and the political fallout was so damning for Bush 41's presidency that Greenspan et.al. have been fearful of creating that effect ever since.
Same could be said of Obama.
except he decided to do something instead of nothing, nothing being the forte of Herby.
I love the way Bush 41 handled the fall of the Berlin wall. Gorbachev had to tiptoe such a fine line to keep the Communist hardliners from taking him out of power and ruining everything, and an ideologue like Reagan would have egged them on and perhaps forced a hot war to pull East Germany out from under the iron curtain. Bush41 knew when to shut the up and to not push it as a USA vs USSR issue.
A hole the north helped creat with their scorched earth plan
Bush policy brought us to the brink of financial collapse and trillions (the counter is still running) in public debt....remember when he promised the tax cuts would pay for themselves...yeah, not so much...
Obama isn't the worst yet but he is probably one of the worst presidents. He sucks because he has basically served Bush's 3rd term and currently serving the 4th. When it comes to war and fighting terrorism, he is worse than Bush. When it comes to civil liberties and the 4th amendment, he is worse than Bush. Obama gets a pass because he thinks it's cool for women to kill unborn babies and for gays and lesbians to be treated as brave heroes.
Obama is by far the best President we have had in decades...maybe better than even Clinton...his signature legislation, the ACA will someday morph into single payer and save millions of families from bankruptcy...
Lmao best president in decades! I want what you're smoking because you are in a fantasy world. Obama is a clone of Bush. Gitmo, patriot act, ndaa, illegal wiretaps and surveillance, illegal use of drones, failed troop surge I'm Afghanistan, trying to extend the war in Iraq, etc...
This is, hands down, one of the all-time dumbest posts in the history of ST
Agree he's probably top 5, tbh... I think you have to look at this in retrospect, and eventually when Barry walks away, we'll see the real amount of damage...
You take a guy like dubya, and the damage isn't just limited to the time he was in power... he has a large hand in the current sad state of the GOP, by cementing the RINO narrative and largely destroying the party with his neocon buddies.
This. Barry belongs in the Top 5 worst, though.
This thread should have been broken into eras, like the worst post WW II President.
What has Obama actually done in his 2 terms? I guess there is still time to actually accomplish something though.
gaycob still whining about gay people while he'll claim he doesn't care about gay people, per par
pls answer my question about "the best healthcare system in the world"
1. Obama
2. GWB
3. Carter
Idk why people slob GHWB's knob just cause his son sucked so much worse than he did. He was still a total pros ute for oil companies, Wall Street and the military industrial complex, while there's a good chance had something to do with JFK's assassination. He was by no means a good president.
Obama is not the worst. God bless.
We're grading on a curve though. Every single president since sucking Reagan has been a puppet of Wall Street and the MIC. Our elections aren't designed to give us a chance at a good president.
Last edited by baseline bum; 11-09-2013 at 10:06 AM.
same for all Congressional seats, with a handful of exceptions.
I assume you are talking about Bush 43, and yes, not only did that idiotic 'supply side' voodoo economics fail YET AGAIN (just as it did under Reagan), Bush 43 also promised that the war in Iraq would be paid for by Iraqi Oil. Another example of 'yeah, not so much'.
agree with this though I voted Yes above. He's definitely been the worst in my lifetime, though I hope he isn't the worst all time because that would mean bad things for everyone. I didn't know much about Buchanan tbh, other than mah nig Pat Buchanan. But sounds like Pres. Buchanan was not only the worst president but also into antebellum butt ing.
As for Pres. Hussein, CIC and HNIC, you look at the lies over Obamacare, Benghazi (throwing a in jail for a fkn video), Fast and the Furious, more spying than Bush etc....and it's worse than Nixon imho. Unfortunately for Nixon though he wasn't black and didn't have the media protecting him. Obama seems like more of an empty suit than even Bush imo.
I disagree. the recession would have been over probably 3 years ago if Obama and the democrats didn't scare anyone who makes money via capital gains.
sort of like when Nader was running and the Presidential Election Commission voted that you needed 15% approval to get into the debates or some . Yeah I voted for Nader, no shame. I figured then things were set up a certain way. There's also the theory on Kennedy, that he was the last to rebel against his masters with Executive Order 11110, and we saw how that ended.
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