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what is your definition of superstar?
Was just thinking about Tony being and superstar and all tbh..I don't believe Manu was ever was though...
what is your definition of superstar?
Equal best player on a championship team. 2005.
Neither Tony nor Manu have ever been Superstars. They have never been consistent enough to carry the Spurs to the le. Tim was always there to do the moping when they screwed up.
05~08 kind of, but too bad during that period the league got guys like T-mac, Kobe, Arenas, AI putting up 40+ points every other night. So Manu is being know as the efficient player maker that help you win not a superstar in his prime. But come to think of it today we got scrub like James Harden being consider as top 3 shooting guards in the league. So I would say yeah Manu was a superstar at least he play like one during his prime consider by today's standard.
Gino would have a streak of games where he would be incredible and then he would go 'missing' in comparison. But context is important and not only the scoresheet - there were times where I would ignore Kobe in his prime and marvel at Gino, but consistency - no it was not really a feature of what is a very very good player.
No.
Define superstar ? Is Dwert a superstar ? Is Blake Griffin a superstar ? Kevin Love ?
They certainly didn't get superstars salaries.
But were worth much more than they get paid for and they were bargains. TP still is, Manu not so much.
People tend to overlook this fact, especially for TP.
Consdiering how injury prone Manu was for his career and the minute limitations he's needed, he's earned more than his worth in the NBA. Not saying he's been overpaid but he sure as wasn't underpaid throughout his career.
On topic, a very clear NO. Superstars are franchise players and Ginobili was more of a 2nd option/3rd option sidekick type. Manu only looked like a superstar in the 2005 playoffs.
Last edited by Johnny RIngo; 11-10-2013 at 08:22 AM.
None of them are americans. Nowitzki never was a superstar too. But a dumbass like D-Ho is a superstar. Simply like that.
Dirk sure as was a superstar. He won a goddamn MVP, Finals MVP and has been the cornerstorne of the Mavs for more than a decade.
But not in merchandising terms or to the media.
First 2 Manu contracts were bargains, for the the 2 last ones I agree with Johnny Ringo. For TP however, I think Spurs got GREAT value and TP haters never see this. But this off topic
YES!!!! From the moment he stepped on an NBA floor, it took Pop a while to catch on.
Not anywhere in the NBA. He is an international superstar though after he helped lead his team more than once in beating Team USA and once bringing home that gold medal. I hear all this Manu bashing lately. Just be glad he turned out to be good. Most 56th picks in the draft aren't even supposed to make it to the NBA let alone be a big part of winning. Oh it would've been interesting to see him if he didn't have to play. The sixth man role in his prime backing up every other SG we've had since he's been here.
There are stars and there are superstars. A label like "superstar" are reserved for guys like Kobe, Dirk, Lebron, and Duncan. These are your superstars. They're the guys that can lead you to the promise land. Guys like Manu, TP, Ray Allen, Chris Bosh, etc... are stars. They may be considered stars across the NBA or amongst their own teams. These are the guys that can help you get to the promise land but can't do it alone.
yeah. There were times when he was the best person to ever touch the ball. And on defense he made it seem like there were six players on the floor, always causing chaos and disruptions. He's a hall of famer, thats for sure.
In the USA, and around the basketball globe, I think Manu has been a star. In Argentina, he's been a superstar. He was named the most important athlete of the last decade in Argentina.
*see 2005
Manu is a winner on all levels. The are you talking about?
yeah 05-09 I'd say he was and in '11 he was our best player
Not a superstar. That's rare territory for people like Timmeh. Closest Manu got to that was 2005 Finals...
He has been an all-star and a great exciting player on championship teams. Everyone has their own opinions about what puts a player in the superstar category. He is a god overseas and I would consider him an international superstar and Manu will alway be one of my favorite spurs.
"Superstar" has more to do with notoriety than talent. Both were superstars in their home country.
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