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    My predictions are not always accurate, but there is no way you can convince me Kobe will come back to this team by the end of this year. Matter of fact, by the time it's Christmas day and he returns, this team will be in the .300 range, Pau will be on the verge of another injury per par, and Kobe will play about 20-30 games before he decides to sit out for the year. I also wouldnt be surprised if he signed with another team next season.

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    I could see Kirby finishing his career in Philly, tbh. They got a nice set of young guns along with Evan Turner and Noel will be playing next year + they'll probably pick in the top 5-10 range in the draft and they have enough cap space to pay Kirby whatever he wants so why not retire at your home town?

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    I could see Kirby finishing his career in Philly, tbh. They got a nice set of young guns along with Evan Turner and Noel will be playing next year + they'll probably pick in the top 5-10 range in the draft and they have enough cap space to pay Kirby whatever he wants so why not retire at your home town?
    I always knew 2 things for sure as a Laker fan. 1) When Buss dies this franchise derails for atleast 5 years 2) Kobe's career will end on a very low note. Like very very low note

    I am right about 1 of 2 so far, when Lakers got Dwight and Nash last year my Laker friends were trolling me for saying Kobe will not go out with a bang like MJ. But its obvious now Kobe's no longer able to be that guy anymore.

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    Do you think a coaching change could help or no way anything can help at this point?

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    lol meltdown

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    I just hope Doc tells Kirby no if he tries to beg his way on to the Clippers out of spite, tbh.... he almost did it in '04, I could see him trying it again, tbh....

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    Disagree, tbh..

    Kobe is more likely to come back if LA continues struggling since the expectations are very low..Kobe doesn't deserve blame for their poor record, everybody knows the roster is arguably the worst in the league, he might as well return and chase the career points record, it gives the fans something worth watching this year..

    It doesn't make sense for him to waste more time when he's in reach of Jordan's points number, tbh..

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    Is there no one else? AchillesHeel's Avatar
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    I always knew 2 things for sure as a Laker fan. 1) When Buss dies this franchise derails for atleast 5 years 2) Kobe's career will end on a very low note. Like very very low note

    I am right about 1 of 2 so far, when Lakers got Dwight and Nash last year my Laker friends were trolling me for saying Kobe will not go out with a bang like MJ. But its obvious now Kobe's no longer able to be that guy anymore.
    Kirby will still be able to score 25-35 on a given night, but your team just sucks so much ass that his efforts are pointless, once he sees that he'll only be getting paid 12-15 mil to work even harder than before to be on that same level, he will either retire as a Laker or he will bolt for another team with better assets. He wants the scoring record and he wants another shot at a ring, he will realize that LA is going nowhere and more likely than not he'll do what Manning did and join a team with more firepower to get another shot at a championship, tbh.

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    Do you think a coaching change could help or no way anything can help at this point?
    Honestly, after passing on Phil for D'antoni I had a long "discussion" with Laker friends on Facebook. I told them this will be 'the move' that derails the franchise for 5-10 years. All my typical Laker friends responded in the common manner,' Na man! D'antoni never had 24 on his team. He's gonna take this team to the next level.'

    The reality is, this organization is dysfunctional from top to bottom. Nothing can help. Midnight said it best 4-6 months ago in a talk we had, the Lakers delayed rebuilding waaaaay too long and this is the price they have to pay. This team fades into oblivion for a solid 4-5 years, and even with all the money in the world theres no way Lebron would want to come to LA when he has a great thing in Miami.

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    I just hope Doc tells Kirby no if he tries to beg his way on to the Clippers out of spite, tbh.... he almost did it in '04, I could see him trying it again, tbh....
    Actually I agree with you. This move makes a ton of sense for him. I know hes going to want to do this so bad, the question is if hes willing to hurt his legacy (money in selling shoes) to make this move or if its better to just retire.

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    Disagree, tbh..

    Kobe is more likely to come back if LA continues struggling since the expectations are very low..Kobe doesn't deserve blame for their poor record, everybody knows the roster is arguably the worst in the league, he might as well return and chase the career points record, it gives the fans something worth watching this year..

    It doesn't make sense for him to waste more time when he's in reach of Jordan's points number, tbh..
    In all fairness, as horrific as the team is, the focal point of this teams problem are Fredo and D'antoni. Granted many of us Laker fans were losing faith in Jerry circa 2005-2008, he always found a way to make things make sense with each passing season. Jim is way in over his head, he has no idea what hes doing.

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    I don't think D'Antoni is even close to the problem, tbh..

    He will never win your team a le, but he's a proven coach that can win you regular season games and a round or 2 in the playoffs, he has done it before..he's not going to win you a le, but this year's Lakers team isn't anywhere near there from a talent perspective, anyways..

    The problem is that the Lakers hired D'Antoni to coach a team that didn't fit his style of coaching at all, last year..D'Antoni's system and reputation was already established, he has a run&gun system that doesn't promote post play and is built around playing his starters heavy minutes..why would you hire him to coach a team with old players and very few run&gun players?..why would you hire him to coach a team with Dwight Howard and Pau Gasol?..why would you hire him to coach a team with serious championship aspirations?..

    D'Antoni is a good coach for this current Lakers roster because their talent is very limited, and he generally does a good job of emphasizing the strengths of 1-dimensional offensive players..this Lakers team would be winless with most other coaches IMO..

    The problem is directly related to Jim Buss and Lakers' management for hiring D'Antoni to coach last year's team and for building this roster..have you guys looked at this Lakers roster? It's one of the worst rosters I've ever seen, tbh..if they had Pop, they would still be horrible, it's mostly bench warmers and failed rotation players..

    Realistically, the Lakers aren't going to be contenders for another 5 years or so, unless they can acquire Kevin Love and another superstar, but I can't even think of a viable option, tbh..

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    I would be fine with it if he retires by season's end.

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    I don't think D'Antoni is even close to the problem, tbh..

    He will never win your team a le, but he's a proven coach that can win you regular season games and a round or 2 in the playoffs, he has done it before..

    The problem is that the Lakers hired D'Antoni to coach a team that didn't fit his style of coaching at all last year..D'Antoni's system and reputation was already established, he has a run&gun system that doesn't promote post play and is built around playing his starters heavy minutes..why would you hire him to coach a team with old players and very few run&gun players?..

    D'Antoni is a good coach for this current Lakers roster because their talent is very limited, and he generally does a good job of emphasizing the strengths of offensive players..this Lakers team would be winless with most other coaches IMO..

    The problem is directly related to Jim Buss and Lakers' management for hiring D'Antoni to coach last year's team and for building this roster..have you guys looked at this Lakers roster? It's one of the worst rosters I've ever seen, tbh..if they had Pop, they would still be horrible..
    And that in itself is the problem. For all of Mitch's greatness, he hasnt made those little moves this past few seasons to make this team solid. He could have traded Gasol for Love they didnt. Could have traded Dwight for half of the Golden State Warriors they chose to pursue the begging instead. They lost their picks for Nash. I mean, if ever there was a case of check mate it would be now. The only chance we have is the name and location of this city, otherwise we'd be the Raptors.

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    Lakers are signing Carmelo... tbh, all they need is to sell those expensive tickets and that's the kind of signing they need to do that.

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    Lakers are signing Carmelo... tbh, all they need is to sell those expensive tickets and that's the kind of signing they need to do that.
    Id rather they not sign Carmelo...though it would be fun to regularly see La La on TV. Dat azz....but seriously Carmelo sucks. He's like C-Webb...great talent but he misses that 'it' factor that champions have.

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    Oh man that ass....Kobe u ed up by marrying that bean dip


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    Id rather they not sign Carmelo...though it would be fun to regularly see La La on TV. Dat azz....but seriously Carmelo sucks. He's like C-Webb...great talent but he misses that 'it' factor that champions have.
    It's the James Dolan move... which is the same thing Fredo did when he signed Nash... bright lights, smoke and mirrors, season tickets sold... the rest is gravy

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    Lakers fans quitting and its not even 10 games in.

    fair weather gots

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    Lakers fans quitting and its not even 10 games in.

    fair weather gots
    Yes, because those Laker fans that still believe when Kobe comes back this teams making a run are real fans. Its not about quitting, its the obvious mathematics. It was obvious the moment Dwight left and the Lakers said theyre planning to make moves in 2014.

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    Yes, because those Laker fans that still believe when Kobe comes back this teams making a run are real fans. Its not about quitting, its the obvious mathematics. It was obvious the moment Dwight left and the Lakers said theyre planning to make moves in 2014.
    Obvious mathematics?

    mental resilience

    it seems to me that a true Lakers fans only have hope if it's a sure thing. obvious quitting is more like it.

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    Kobe's primary concern will be MONEY.

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    If i were Kobe, i'd call Ind, LAC, SA & Chi in that very order during the off-season. I'm pretty sure all of them would gladly take him in.

    He would actually fit right in with the Bulls though.

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    I always knew 2 things for sure as a Laker fan. 1) When Buss dies this franchise derails for atleast 5 years 2) Kobe's career will end on a very low note. Like very very low note

    I am right about 1 of 2 so far, when Lakers got Dwight and Nash last year my Laker friends were trolling me for saying Kobe will not go out with a bang like MJ. But its obvious now Kobe's no longer able to be that guy anymore.
    You are probably right ...but Lakers are bigger than Kobe. Love to see him back. But just wanna see Lakers contend in 2 years with or without Kobe.

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    You are probably right ...but Lakers are bigger than Kobe. Love to see him back. But just wanna see Lakers contend in 2 years with or without Kobe.
    I agree, and in time im confident Lakers will be back on top. I just didnt think Jim Buss would be this bad

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