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why do the Spurs let Gerald Green to get that open three at the end to tie the game, instead of fouling him! i don't understand it, this kind of thing can cost you a championship...
Ya and I'm the King of Siam. Your not a basketball ball coach in comparison...He does things that you will never understand, so quit trying.
why do the Spurs let Gerald Green to get that open three at the end to tie the game, instead of fouling him! i don't understand it, this kind of thing can cost you a championship...
Emo parrot obviously didn't watch the game.
Green's shot was rushed and off-balance on that play because he was being hounded for a good 3-4 mseconds before it.
go yourself, i know you are frustrated that your beloved Bonner is injured right now but please stop be a phony!!!
Emo parrot obviously didn't watch the game.
Green's shot was rushed and off-balance on that play because he was being hounded for a good 3-4 mseconds before it.
Green ended up with pretty good open look, very makeble shot!!
This. There's also no guarantee that he gets either of those boards. It's not like his DRB% is 100%, & he'd have been further out on the perimeter than normal.
I probably would have left him in because I don't think Bosh could have shook him for an open look, but for all the talk about strategy - Miami got two very fortuitous bounces and took advantage.
Pop is so in stubborn. IMHO the only reason he took Tim out against Phoenix was to say, "Look my strategy works, we do this all the time." Problem is, this the Phoenix Suns, this isn't the NBA Finals against the Miami Heat. What an asshole, did he not learn his lesson yet??? I can't believe he even did this. I know the Suns game doesn't mean , but I feel like this was a middle finger to us all.
at the notion that Pop is the one being stubborn.
There are statistics associated with the performance of small ball in that scenario. It was shown here and pulling Duncan to protect the 3-point line in that scenario had a tremendous success rate.
The ones that are being stubborn are the ones that are ignoring the 20 or so successes using that strategy and grandstanding on a single failure becasue you are butt hurt about it. How many of you asshurt about him pulling Duncan against Miami were aware that was the strategy we used all season?
Given that logic when Duncan missed that chip shot and putback in a 'clutch' cir stance that should mean we never go back to him. I mean after all it was painful and Lakers fans have been trolling us about it for months. We should NEVER do that again. And his success rate on shots in 'clutch' cir stances is much worse than pulling Duncan to protect the 3 point line something against which he is not even good at.
If you want to switch everything on the perimeter then you cannot have Duncan in there or you are going to be giving up open 3's all day long. There is a FG% against and a defensive rebounding % associated with those lineups. You can determine a 'success' percentage and play the averages.
People need to get over last season and move on.
For anyone who saw the Rockets game last night, this is exactly what happened on the last play with Dwight in the lineup. McHale had them all switching, but after Beverly was stopped by the second screen, Dwight was out of it and not fast enough to switch and catch up to Steve Blake.
Pop's not stubborn. That's why he embraced the perfectly logical idea of fouling when up by three...
Oh wait.
LOL obsessed over Tolliver and Bonner
LOL 'good open look, very makeble shot' when Green was leaning forward and to the side and rushing to get the shot off
LOL looking for anything to criticize in that play
LOL still hasn't killed himself
We were just on the losing end of the game. Relax, guys. It happens. It was devastated about game 6 all throughout the summer but now that the new season is here: move on.
Pats fans are probably still talking about the probability of the helmet catch and the Welker drops in the undefeated season, 49ers fans about the last drive in the Super Bowl in the end zone. All of these things are just a consequence of the realities of sports.
Just move on and appreciate that we're still an elite team. It wasn't our last shot.
he's a guy that's stuck in his ways. he will continue to do he KNOWS is wrong just to prove a point that his way will work someday. it's the way he functions in life. he's the type that his parents told him not to touch the hot stove as a kid. he continued to touch that hot stove until one day it didn't burn him as bad as the previous attempts..
There are statistics associated with the performance of small ball in that scenario. It was shown here and pulling Duncan to protect the 3-point line in that scenario had a tremendous success rate.
The ones that are being stubborn are the ones that are ignoring the 20 or so successes using that strategy and grandstanding on a single failure becasue you are butt hurt about it. How many of you asshurt about him pulling Duncan against Miami were aware that was the strategy we used all season?
Given that logic when Duncan missed that chip shot and putback in a 'clutch' cir stance that should mean we never go back to him. I mean after all it was painful and Lakers fans have been trolling us about it for months. We should NEVER do that again. And his success rate on shots in 'clutch' cir stances is much worse than pulling Duncan to protect the 3 point line something against which he is not even good at.
If you want to switch everything on the perimeter then you cannot have Duncan in there or you are going to be giving up open 3's all day long. There is a FG% against and a defensive rebounding % associated with those lineups. You can determine a 'success' percentage and play the averages.
People need to get over last season and move on.
This is a post that shows sound basketball knowledge, as well as rationalism.
And it is NOT Pop homerism, dispute what some will try to spin it to.
I commend you!
for your information, the wes welker superbowl drop was not the undefeated season. it was just a last year. the undefeated season was 2008 superbowl. get that right.. and yes it was bellicic fault cuz he went for it on a 4th down when we could have just kicked the field goal early in the game. the giants touchdown would have just tied it..
Yes hand them free points as opposed to playing defense.. Great idea..
The focus is playing defense, but Tim Duncan is taken out of the game. One of the top defenders in the league. Off the floor. That makes more sense than giving a team a maximum of two points when they need three just to tie.
Spurs are 6-1 with experimentation going on. Not that bad
And the last 3 assistant coaches gone are doing really well considering the rosters they have. Philly 2nd, Atlanta 4th and Orlando 8th even if it's still early
Reading spurstalk, you'd think pop is a bad coach and half the poster knows BB better than him...
When your coach is recognized as the best coach in the league by the media, the 30 GM, the others fans and you still think he is doing stupid things then you need to look again at your BB resume and assume that everything you have thought have already been identified by pop and the assistant coaches
I agree but then the over obsessives( you know who you are) will say that regular season success doesn't translate to playoff pressure. But, I'm curious to see if the haters can throw a legit basketball counter to your argument.
There are statistics associated with the performance of small ball in that scenario. It was shown here and pulling Duncan to protect the 3-point line in that scenario had a tremendous success rate.
The ones that are being stubborn are the ones that are ignoring the 20 or so successes using that strategy and grandstanding on a single failure becasue you are butt hurt about it. How many of you asshurt about him pulling Duncan against Miami were aware that was the strategy we used all season?
Given that logic when Duncan missed that chip shot and putback in a 'clutch' cir stance that should mean we never go back to him. I mean after all it was painful and Lakers fans have been trolling us about it for months. We should NEVER do that again. And his success rate on shots in 'clutch' cir stances is much worse than pulling Duncan to protect the 3 point line something against which he is not even good at.
If you want to switch everything on the perimeter then you cannot have Duncan in there or you are going to be giving up open 3's all day long. There is a FG% against and a defensive rebounding % associated with those lineups. You can determine a 'success' percentage and play the averages.
People need to get over last season and move on.
I wanted him on the floor as bad as you did but people need to quit acting like Pop cost us the le out of stupidity. He knows more about the game than any of us on the forum put together. He made a tactical choice given the match ups and it did not pan out.. When you roll that footage back KL was inches away from grabbing the rebound that would have likely sealed the championship.. Wade tipped the ball away.. The game is a matter of inches.
I love that people resort to the "He knows more than all of us about basketball" argument when all the evidence and logic fail them. When a guy who claims to rely on percentages and tendencies, and talks about it at length, then goes and does such incomprehensible once the playoffs roll around or in crunch time, you have to say it's stupidity unless it works a large percentage of the time. Knowing a lot about the game doesn't prevent him from running stupid lineups. We've seen him do it so many times since 2006 that I'm unsure how someone can be stubborn enough to deny it. Sidney Lowe and Magic Johnson and Marc Ivaroni know more about basketball than we do, as well. Doesn't make them good NBA coaches.
I don't have the game in front of me, nor do I want to watch it, but I could have sworn Diaw was the one who missed the rebound, and the inches in question are the ones in Timmy's arms and legs.
On an unrelated note, you only need one period at the end of sentences.<- smiley face
yeah, we've seen popovich make mistakes for years. giving up on games in the 4th(i was fukin shocked he didn't quit in game 1 against the warriors. he has a history of "saving his players for the next game") and the mistakes in game 6 is not just with taking duncan out. he had about 4 HUGE mistakes in the 4th quarter alone. taking out the starters at the start of the 4th, taking duncan out twice on defense late in the 4th, not sending in a freethrow shooting unit but putting the pressure on a 61% freethrow shooter, and most importantly, allowing ginobli to stink up the game with his bull . i don't give a damn how much he knows, i know he fuked that game up.I love that people resort to the "He knows more than all of us about basketball" argument when all the evidence and logic fail them. When a guy who claims to rely on percentages and tendencies, and talks about it at length, then goes and does such incomprehensible once the playoffs roll around or in crunch time, you have to say it's stupidity unless it works a large percentage of the time. Knowing a lot about the game doesn't prevent him from running stupid lineups. We've seen him do it so many times since 2006 that I'm unsure how someone can be stubborn enough to deny it. Sidney Lowe and Magic Johnson and Marc Ivaroni know more about basketball than we do, as well. Doesn't make them good NBA coaches.
I don't have the game in front of me, nor do I want to watch it, but I could have sworn Diaw was the one who missed the rebound, and the inches in question are the ones in Timmy's arms and legs.
On an unrelated note, you only need one period at the end of sentences.
O_V, it's not a copout to say "He knows more than all of us about basketball", IMO. He's simply not infallible and he's the guy constantly saying "this is a game of mistakes". He ed up, and this is a situation where it will get magnified 20x because of the stage. No coach is perfect. Even Phil Jackson lost a couple of NBA Finals.I love that people resort to the "He knows more than all of us about basketball" argument when all the evidence and logic fail them. When a guy who claims to rely on percentages and tendencies, and talks about it at length, then goes and does such incomprehensible once the playoffs roll around or in crunch time, you have to say it's stupidity unless it works a large percentage of the time. Knowing a lot about the game doesn't prevent him from running stupid lineups. We've seen him do it so many times since 2006 that I'm unsure how someone can be stubborn enough to deny it. Sidney Lowe and Magic Johnson and Marc Ivaroni know more about basketball than we do, as well. Doesn't make them good NBA coaches.
I don't have the game in front of me, nor do I want to watch it, but I could have sworn Diaw was the one who missed the rebound, and the inches in question are the ones in Timmy's arms and legs.
On an unrelated note, you only need one period at the end of sentences.
I hear what youre saying. Someone would challenge your ability to deem him fallible due to his four les. That's what makes it a cop out.
My issue is people talk about this like he was almost trying to lose the game.. Obviously that lineup in that situation worked for him in the past or he would not have used it.. Pop did not pull that one out of his ass and just say out of blue
Bench Duncan why not??
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