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    ..... Like most new developments in U.S. metropolitan areas, Shadow Hills is governed by a private homeowners association, and membership is not optional. To live here, you must become a member, pay $237 a month in dues and abide by a lengthy and sometimes onerous set of rules. One that has been generating controversy of late is the “Conduct Code” section of the sssociation’s rules and regulations. It says homeowners are responsible for the actions of friends, visitors and even vendors.

    That was the policy the HOA cited to Carolyn Little when she was issued a $50 speeding ticket, even though it wasn’t her car and she wasn’t driving. It was a Home Depot carpet installer who got caught by the association’s private police force for driving seven miles over the 35 mph speed limit down Sun City Blvd. Little, 71, said she just happened to be the first homeowner expecting a visit from Home Depot that day—and it was her address that the driver gave the guard when he checked in at the front gate.“

    They want their money and they don’t care if it’s at the resident’s expense,” she said. “We like it here. It’s just that these rules are c*razy.”

    The dissidents say complaints about heavy-handed rules fall on deaf ears in Shadow Hills: the association recently authorized the purchase of another radar gun—evidence, as they see it, that the property managers are looking out for their bottom line and not the best interests of the homeowners.While the Sun City Shadow Hills Community Association was organized as a nonprofit dedicated to the protection of the neighborhood and its residents, it is run by a for-profit management company. With a budget of about $10 million a year, it’s not unlike running a medium-sized business.*......

    http://www.texasmonthly.com/story/gr...llusioned-hoas

    I'm glad John Carona's racket is getting a little more light shined on it.

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    biggest racket is foreclosing on house for HOA fees unpaid, then selling the home to an HOA staff friend.

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    Their rules. If you don't like it move.

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    I would never live in a neighborhood with a HOA. Dumbest you can possibly do

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    Their rules. If you don't like it move.
    Been telling you that about Cali for a while, tbh

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    Been telling you that about Cali for a while, tbh
    The positives outweigh the negatives. I'm 15 minutes from the beach, 1 hour from snow, and 1 hour from the desert.

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    Their rules. If you don't like it move.
    the ol' love it or leave it line.

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    Their rules. If you don't like it move.
    yep, simple as that, for rock-simple right-wing idiots

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    If people want to incorporate by their own volition that is one thing. What I have issue is how developers are allowed to shove them down homeowners' throats. It is becoming more and more difficult to find a new home for sale that does not have a HOA prepackaged with it by the developers.

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    Their rules. If you don't like it move.
    Or you can try and change it. You seem ignorant to how the developers play a role and force feed the HOA to consumers. Self determination should be a good thing.

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    Or you can try and change it. You seem ignorant to how the developers play a role and force feed the HOA to consumers. Self determination should be a good thing.
    Once they sign the HOA contract, how do the powerless homeowners alter the contract to reduce their funds flowing the HOA? it ain't a democracy, it's private contract.

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    Once they sign the HOA contract, how do the powerless homeowners alter the contract to reduce their funds flowing the HOA? it ain't a democracy, it's private contract.
    HOA contracts can be amended and the charter can be dissolved at the decision of the homeowners.

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    Problem is that most homeowners are too ignorant or apathetic to demand change.

    Or they actually like the HOA being a bully.

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    I would never live in a neighborhood with a HOA. Dumbest you can possibly do
    +1

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    the ol' love it or leave it line.
    Were they forced to buy a home with HOA?

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    Or you can try and change it. You seem ignorant to how the developers play a role and force feed the HOA to consumers. Self determination should be a good thing.
    Don't move into a neighborhood with HOA if you don't want to deal with their , simple as that.

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    Were they forced to buy a home with HOA?
    yeah, I got your silly false dilemma the first time.

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    Don't move into a neighborhood with HOA if you don't want to deal with their , simple as that.
    Again you seem ignorant to how developers play a role and how it is becoming nigh impossible to find a neighborhood developed without it. Consumers are given no choice. Self determination should be a good thing.

    This is what I get at when I talk about reading comprehension and critical thinking. You show poor skills in those regards.

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    Again you seem ignorant to how developers play a role and how it is becoming nigh impossible to find a neighborhood developed without it. Consumers are given no choice. Self determination should be a good thing.

    This is what I get at when I talk about reading comprehension and critical thinking. You show poor skills in those regards.
    Nearly impossible to find a home without HOA? I had zero problems finding mine and simply skipped over any homes in an HOA. I realize most new neighborhoods developed are HOA but considering only 20% of all homes are HOA it isn't anywhere near impossible, as you claim, to find one without. Again, if you don't want to deal with it don't move in.

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    Nearly impossible to find a home without HOA? I had zero problems finding mine and simply skipped over any homes in an HOA. I realize most new neighborhoods developed are HOA but considering only 20% of all homes are HOA it isn't anywhere near impossible, as you claim, to find one without. Again, if you don't want to deal with it don't move in.
    Again, most(more than 80%) NEW housing developments are using a HOA format.

    This is what I get at when I talk about reading comprehension and critical thinking. You show poor skills in those regards.

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    Again, most(more than 80%) NEW housing developments are using a HOA format.

    This is what I get at when I talk about reading comprehension and critical thinking. You show poor skills in those regards.
    You want to talk about reading comprehension?
    From the post you JUST quoted:
    I realize most new neighborhoods developed are HOA but considering only 20% of all homes are HOA it isn't anywhere near impossible, as you claim, to find one without
    Thanks for confirming what I already stated though, next time maybe you'll comprehend better next time. Your dislike for me has once again gotten the best of you.

    I'm still waiting for data showing it is nearly impossible to buy a home without HOA as it seems 80% of homeowners did so.

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    Just read your post where you stated "new", my bad .

    Doesn't change my stance on don't like it don't move in.

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    Great. I think I just picked up a consulting contract with one of the largest HOA management companies in the US. Should I smuggle in a backpack nuke?

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    Great. I think I just picked up a consulting contract with one of the largest HOA management companies in the US. Should I smuggle in a backpack nuke?
    well.....there's 50 bucks in it if you do.

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    $50? Nukes dont grow on trees dude.

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