Texas Monthly: "Growing Disillusioned with HOAs"

[Blake]

Great. I think I just picked up a consulting contract with one of the largest HOA management companies in the US. Should I smuggle in a backpack nuke?

If Carona isn't there, it will be all for naught

[Blake]

Doesn't change my stance on don't like it don't move in.

Neat.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

You want to talk about reading comprehension?
From the post you JUST quoted:


Thanks for confirming what I already stated though, next time maybe you'll comprehend better next time. Your dislike for me has once again gotten the best of you.

I'm still waiting for data showing it is nearly impossible to buy a home without HOA as it seems 80% of homeowners did so.

You keep citing numbers for all homes when I am talking about new homes. Thus my having to repeat it over and again. I just looked up the total number of homes and its closer to 30%.

And again the critical thinking is poor on your part. If I want to buy a new home ie architect my own floor plan and have it brand spanking new then my options are going to be dramatically curtailed. So what at that point? I have to buy a used home? What about moving forward. If everything from this point on is HOA what do you think that protends for that percentage moving forward?

I have no respect for you and think you are not very intelligent. That is not 'getting the best of me.' That is me just seeing you for what you are.

[Koolaid_Man]

I throw my dog on the HOA pres lawn

[spursncowboys]

If people want to incorporate by their own volition that is one thing. What I have issue is how developers are allowed to shove them down homeowners' throats. It is becoming more and more difficult to find a new home for sale that does not have a HOA prepackaged with it by the developers.

100% agree

[pgardn]

I throw my dog on the HOA pres lawn

This, is good.
I got a hurtful gut laugh.

[Wild Cobra]

Problem is that most homeowners are too ignorant or apathetic to demand change.

Or they actually like the HOA being a bully.

There are both pros and cons to HOA's. I doubt I would ever find one I would buy into, but yes, some homeowners actually like the regulations of the community.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I throw my dog on the HOA pres lawn

Typically in someones front yard there is a cleanout. The large bore PVC. It is what leads to the sewer and is used to clear out back end backups. Fill that up with sand.

[Wild Cobra]

Again, most(more than 80%) NEW housing developments are using a HOA format.

This is what I get at when I talk about reading comprehension and critical thinking. You show poor skills in those regards.

So what's wrong with the other 20%?

They are still available, right?

[FuzzyLumpkins]

So what's wrong with the other 20%?

They are still available, right?

It dramatically reduces consumer choice. As noted in the OP HOA are not popular. That is the issue.

[boutons_deux]

So what's wrong with the other 20%?

They are still available, right?

in which school districts (yep, many public schools with unionized teachers are excellent, a question of school financing)? how long to commute to work, shopping?

HOA is a local-monopoly business like any other, sucking $B out of homeowners, maximizing revenue and HOA staff salaries.

[Wild Cobra]

It dramatically reduces consumer choice. As noted in the OP HOA are not popular. That is the issue.

Don't cry.

[Wild Cobra]

in which school districts (yep, many public schools with unionized teachers are excellent, a question of school financing)? how long to commute to work, shopping?

HOA is a local-monopoly business like any other, sucking $B out of homeowners, maximizing revenue and HOA staff salaries.

Yet they survive because they can sell their product to home buyers. You want to change things, fine. Get like minded individuals together and create a nonprofit organization to lobby against the practices you deem wrong. Just keep in mind, some people with enough income choose such places to stay away from the riff-raff, like 90% or more of the people who visit this forum.

[pgardn]

Typically in someones front yard there is a cleanout. The large bore PVC. It is what leads to the sewer and is used to clear out back end backups. Fill that up with sand.

Thats evil.

Rock salt on the front lawn.

[Wild Cobra]

Typically in someones front yard there is a cleanout. The large bore PVC. It is what leads to the sewer and is used to clear out back end backups. Fill that up with sand.

People like you belong in jail.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

People like you belong in jail.

Why's that? Because I know how to vandalize like a pro?

You just wait until I get your address.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Don't cry.

I'm not crying. I am just saying that it is better policy to not force american citizens to assemble against their will. You know the whole democracy thing?

I get that if you have public pools or the like then you need to incorporate to some degree but absent some mutual liability they should not force feed that down our throats.

[TSA]

I'm not crying. I am just saying that it is better policy to not force american citizens to assemble against their will. You know the whole democracy thing?

I get that if you have public pools or the like then you need to incorporate to some degree but absent some mutual liability they should not force feed that down our throats.

No one is being forced to move into HOA neighborhoods.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

No one is being forced to move into HOA neighborhoods.

They are just eliminating the alternative which amounts to the same thing in the end. Of all houses only 30% are HOA. Of new homes it is over 80%. That is monopolizing the market. Sorry that you fail to understand the cir stance relative to other markets. Additionally as time goes by you see evidence like the OP that indicates that HOAs are unpopular.

I'm not surprised that you are not able to understand but if you again repeat your drivel I will just ignore it. Anyone else who reads what I am writing can get what I mean even if you cannot.

[TSA]

it is becoming nigh impossible to find a neighborhood developed without it

20% of all new homes are available with no HOA, hardly impossible to find one, but continue to ignore my drivel.

[Koolaid_Man]

Typically in someones front yard there is a cleanout. The large bore PVC. It is what leads to the sewer and is used to clear out back end backups. Fill that up with sand.

throwing dog is quick and easy...gotta watch out for cameras and do it at night when you have on a disguise

[pgardn]

throwing dog is quick and easy...gotta watch out for cameras and do it at night when you have on a disguise

So being in disguise as well as under the cover of darkness in order to distribute dog ...

Quite an operation.

[Wild Cobra]

I'm not crying. I am just saying that it is better policy to not force american citizens to assemble against their will. You know the whole democracy thing?

they aren't forced to assemble against their will. They can find another place if they aren't willing to abide by the rules and pay for the privilege of living there.

I don't particularly like it either, but that's what it amounts to.

I get that if you have public pools or the like then you need to incorporate to some degree but absent some mutual liability they should not force feed that down our throats.

Then they can buy elsewhere.

[Wild Cobra]

Why's that? Because I know how to vandalize like a pro?

You just wait until I get your address.

My 16 channel DVR security system is watching...

[Wild Cobra]

They are just eliminating the alternative which amounts to the same thing in the end. Of all houses only 30% are HOA. Of new homes it is over 80%. That is monopolizing the market. Sorry that you fail to understand the cir stance relative to other markets. Additionally as time goes by you see evidence like the OP that indicates that HOAs are unpopular.

I'm not surprised that you are not able to understand but if you again repeat your drivel I will just ignore it. Anyone else who reads what I am writing can get what I mean even if you cannot.

have you ever put up with owing property, just to have your neighbor devalue the entire block because of their habits?

New places wouldn't be mostly HOA type places if that's wasn't what most people wanted.