Jazz: Thoughts on Pau Gasol

[Bynumite]

Which explained why the lakers started to suck since 2011, because their MVPau can no longer carry him.

So you mean to tell me that when your 2nd best player decides to play like he's in the WNBA your chances of success drop significantly... shocker tbh.

Kobe with Odom and Butler.

[ambchang]

So you mean to tell me that when your 2nd best player decides to play like he's in the WNBA your chances of success drop significantly... shocker tbh.

Missing the playoffs in his prime is indeed worthy.

Also, Kobe played well = missed playoffs.

Kobe not playing = made playoffs.

MVPau played well = b2b

MVPau played poorly = Lakers suck.

I guess we all know who is the difference maker on that team.

[ElNono]

MVPau could be cashing the checks and ducking his children, or faking some injury to avoid playing with scrubs, but no, he still goes out there, competes every night... warrior, tbh

[lefty]

MVPau is doing a favor to LA... dat tanking job is nicely done... too bad kobe gonna cost LA some wins because of some useless records

yes

As the team leader, Pau is stepping up, making sure his team has a good draft pick next season


Of course, Kirby wouldnt give a , he would just try to score 50 every night

Pau is an ALPHA MALE !!!!!!

[Thebesteva]

Shooting a sold 38% from the field, grabbing 10 RPG, and a dazzling 2 assists PG, he's also moving slower than ever, his game is softer than a fresh clitoris… Since we are tanking, I say, as a thank you, we let him enjoy this last year, and call it quits. He is not half the player he used to be, very sad.

Pau hasnt been the same since Kobe's wife Shang Tsung'ed his soul in 2011.

[DMC]

MVPau could be cashing the checks and ducking his children, or faking some injury to avoid playing with scrubs, but no, he still goes out there, competes every night... warrior, tbh

And he keeps bring in the Laker fans to ST per par etc fwiw

[whitemamba]

The difference is that Lakerfan acts like Kobe is top 5 all-time and so this is to be expected then, he SHOULD be better than a big man that your fan base is always crapping on. And that last line is so ing ironic considering that's exactly what Lakerfan does to Kobe to take shots at Pau, and he's on your own ing team which makes it even more sad

And no the Lakers don't win a le without Kobe those years. But replace him with someone like prime Brandon Roy or Dwyane Wade and they most likely still do. The problem is that you're trying to take one of the supposed all-time greats completely out of the lineup and ask if they'd still win the le. Well no they wouldn't. Duncan wasn't going to win a le in 2003 without Parker or Ginobili but he still was by far and away the best player of that team.

The real issue is that you and your entire fan base s all over Pau to try to prop Kobe up constantly. He was 0-12 in the playoffs before he joined up with Kobe. Well what the did Kobe do? Missed the playoffs and had a 4-8 record when he did make it to the first round? Because that's much more impressive?

The Lakers needed both. But what Gasol brought was much more valuable than Kobe's chucking and scoring. The Lakers had stacked teams in the 3 years they made the Finals, you can't tell me that replacing Kobe with a similar SG wouldn't yield similar results. But replacing Pau with any big man not named Duncan, Nowitzki, or Garnett would've got them nowhere. My point is, you should appreciate what both of them bring to the formula instead of trying to downplay the importance of one to prop up the other one as well as blaming any shortcomings on Pau and giving Kobe a pass.

son this thread had nothing to do with kobe.. seems like your more obsessed than our fan base..

[whitemamba]

whitemamba with the sodium bads again. MVPau is still clocking in, trying to do his best. he's obviously way past his prime, not the same guy who could carry Kobe to the championships 3 years in a row. Least MVPau is still competing at his age instead of having a blown out achilles.

what a solid argument.. damn you kobe, you stupid , why did you tear that a chillies!!?