Heat: How long can Lebron keep this up, tbh?..

[LkrFan]

good .

LkrFan and other Kobe s will always throw Shaq and MVPau under the bus. Why I don't know. I think they coveted MJ for so long, getting a much tier, rapist version of MJ blinded them from the real MVPs of their teams.

He never reached his (GOAT) potential. He pissed it away. Then he threw Dr. Buss, the Lakers org, Laker fans, and especially Kobe under the bus because of his eviction. He never would have been evicted in the first place if he were professional. He'd have at least 7 rings if he would have spent more time in 24-Hour Fitness instead of Krispy Kreme donut shops that were open 24-hours/day. Shaq.

[HI-FI]

He never reached his (GOAT) potential. He pissed it away. Then he threw Dr. Buss, the Lakers org, Laker fans, and especially Kobe under the bus because of his eviction. He never would have been evicted in the first place if he were professional. He'd have at least 7 rings if he would have spent more time in 24-Hour Fitness instead of Krispy Kreme donut shops that were open 24-hours/day. Shaq.

The Ingra ude!

[LkrFan]

The Ingra ude!

Nt even. Duncan, as long as Shaq retired behind Kobe in rang totals, it's all good. Shaq threw Kobe under the bus, then backed the bus up, then ran him over again when it was not unecessary. They could have done so much more if Shaq were professional. Say what you want about Kobe, but he never leaves his clip empty. If he is going down, he's going down shooting. He always left it all on the floor. The same cannot be said about Shaq.

I found it funny how all of a sudden he found motivation in South Beach. Shaq 4, Kobe 3. Kobe lost to Boston in '08. Shaq: Kobe, how my ass taste? Then Kobe went b2b without his fatass. He did it with MVPaussy. Shaq then went to Nash's team. Then he went to LBJ's team. Then he went to the en Celtics to join PP, KG and RA. All in a futile effort to tie Kobe in rangs. He failed each time. He's forever on the tail in of 5>4. If Kobe never wins another ring, he can retire a happy man. Kobe will be vindicated. Shaq says the 5>4 schtick doesn't bother him - saying some bull about he would be more hurt if Duncan won more - he's lying through his mumbling ass teeth. It bothers him to no end. Notice how he doesn't talk on Kobe no mo? I've noticed. Just like Kobe, Laker fans like myself feel vindicated that Dr. Buss made the right choice between the two.

Pecking order:
Kobe - 5
Shaq - 4
Duncan - 4
Wade - 3
LBJ - 2
_irk - 1

You gotta Neal with that son. And to think you guys were 28.2 seconds away from re-writing history has gots to stang.

[HI-FI]

Nt even. Duncan, as long as Shaq retired behind Kobe in rang totals, it's all good. Shaq threw Kobe under the bus, then backed the bus up, then ran him over again when it was not unecessary. They could have done so much more if Shaq were professional. Say what you want about Kobe, but he never leaves his clip empty. If he is going down, he's going down shooting. He always left it all on the floor. The same cannot be said about Shaq.

I found it funny how all of a sudden he found motivation in South Beach. Shaq 4, Kobe 3. Kobe lost to Boston in '08. Shaq: Kobe, how my ass taste? Then Kobe went b2b without his fatass. He did it with MVPaussy. Shaq then went to Nash's team. Then he went to LBJ's team. Then he went to the en Celtics to join PP, KG and RA. All in a futile effort to tie Kobe in rangs. He failed each time. He's forever on the tail in of 5>4. If Kobe never wins another ring, he can retire a happy man. Kobe will be vindicated. Shaq says the 5>4 schtick doesn't bother him - saying some bull about he would be more hurt if Duncan won more - he's lying through his mumbling ass teeth. It bothers him to no end. Notice how he doesn't talk on Kobe no mo? I've noticed. Just like Kobe, Laker fans like myself feel vindicated that Dr. Buss made the right choice between the two.

Pecking order:
Kobe - 5
Shaq - 4
Duncan - 4
Wade - 3
LBJ - 2
_irk - 1

You gotta Neal with that son. And to think you guys were 28.2 seconds away from re-writing history has gots to stang.

at your "name on the front, not name on the back" phony routine. if anything, son you gotta learn to quit The Ingra ude!. You might as well start putting Robert Horry above the Cancer in that case, since Kobe's 5 doesn't belong in the same breadth as what Shaq and Duncan did. Dirk's 1 ring was more impressive than I've ever seen out of Kobe, real talk.

You also sound salty as son. I told you to lay off those chimichangas, up your blood pressure. I know you in Japan, try out some sushi and , quit eating food from your pueblo son.

btw, we might still make history son. Hate to see the saltiness from you if we do ring again.

[Mikeanaro]

LeBron has really stepped up the PED abuse in the last few years, tbh. Makes sense why he's doing better. Larger jaw + receding hairline = better stats.

Yeah, same with D , sometimes he has ripped muscular arms and a week later baby arms

[ezau]

Shot selection is shaky. But speaking of form, foot work and fundamentals. Do not be dense. Again let's refocus on James being a potential GOAT Kobe tried but fell short. James still has a real shot.

It's a sad day for Laker fans to see Lebron finally and convincingly overtake Kobe in overall rankings First, Laker fans had Magic as the GOAT until MJ happened. Then, Laker fans were banking on Kirby to overtake MJ, then Lebron happened

[LkrFan]

at your "name on the front, not name on the back" phony routine. if anything, son you gotta learn to quit The Ingra ude!. You might as well start putting Robert Horry above the Cancer in that case, since Kobe's 5 doesn't belong in the same breadth as what Shaq and Duncan did. Dirk's 1 ring was more impressive than I've ever seen out of Kobe, real talk.

You also sound salty as son. I told you to lay off those chimichangas, up your blood pressure. I know you in Japan, try out some sushi and , quit eating food from your pueblo son.

btw, we might still make history son. Hate to see the saltiness from you if we do ring again.

- that was funny - classhle

I'll always be salty about Shaq. He left so much on the table that it ain't even funny. Hate seeing talent wasted and potential go unrealized.

[ezau]

- that was funny - classhle

I'll always be salty about Shaq. He left so much on the table that it ain't even funny. Hate seeing talent wasted and potential go unrealized.

Thought you guys were 'happy' when Shaq left

[LkrFan]

Thought you guys were 'happy' when Shaq left

For the record, I was happy he left. I was just pissed that inconsistent ass Odumb was the centerpiece of what we got in return for him. We should have gotten more. Then Odumb didn't amount to until Pau showed up.

Never denied my disdain for Shaq. We were supposed to win more than we did. Shaq's jealousy ed it up. Imagine how you'd feel as a fan if Duncan pulled the same Shaq did. That's all I'm saying.

[TDMVPDPOY]

why is lebron held to a different standard when compared to jordan but kome has lower standards to meet jordan?

so does this mean lebron has already exceeded kobe and is equal or greater then jordan?

kobe s love to play the hgh game, going balls deep into white ladies is like some supers ious s love to rejuvenate themselves is just the same as hgh

[dfens]

LMAO bringing the lakers into this We gonna get wiggins so be allright.
y'all mad the heat is just going up tbh. 3-peat and finals repeat coming. stay mad.

[koriwhat]

Again let's refocus on James being a potential GOAT... James still has a real shot.

you want to know why he never will be? stats aside, he plays in a water downed league. jordan played with the big boys and if you weren't around in those days to see what he had to go up against, youtube him! just like dirk being able to throw 'bows and get sent to the stripe, he'll never be anything more than a god damn ryan anderson with the refs in his pocket (bold statement but you get the point).

[koriwhat]

For the record, I was happy he left. I was just pissed that inconsistent ass Odumb was the centerpiece of what we got in return for him. We should have gotten more. Then Odumb didn't amount to until Pau showed up.

Never denied my disdain for Shaq. We were supposed to win more than we did. Shaq's jealousy ed it up. Imagine how you'd feel as a fan if Duncan pulled the same Shaq did. That's all I'm saying.

imagine if people actually wanted to play side by side with kobe.

[Seefourdc]

Nt even. Duncan, as long as Shaq retired behind Kobe in rang totals, it's all good. Shaq threw Kobe under the bus, then backed the bus up, then ran him over again when it was not unecessary. They could have done so much more if Shaq were professional. Say what you want about Kobe, but he never leaves his clip empty. If he is going down, he's going down shooting. He always left it all on the floor. The same cannot be said about Shaq.

I found it funny how all of a sudden he found motivation in South Beach. Shaq 4, Kobe 3. Kobe lost to Boston in '08. Shaq: Kobe, how my ass taste? Then Kobe went b2b without his fatass. He did it with MVPaussy. Shaq then went to Nash's team. Then he went to LBJ's team. Then he went to the en Celtics to join PP, KG and RA. All in a futile effort to tie Kobe in rangs. He failed each time. He's forever on the tail in of 5>4. If Kobe never wins another ring, he can retire a happy man. Kobe will be vindicated. Shaq says the 5>4 schtick doesn't bother him - saying some bull about he would be more hurt if Duncan won more - he's lying through his mumbling ass teeth. It bothers him to no end. Notice how he doesn't talk on Kobe no mo? I've noticed. Just like Kobe, Laker fans like myself feel vindicated that Dr. Buss made the right choice between the two.

Pecking order:
Kobe - 5
Shaq - 4
Duncan - 4
Wade - 3
LBJ - 2
_irk - 1

You gotta Neal with that son. And to think you guys were 28.2 seconds away from re-writing history has gots to stang.

So does that mean it also goes
Robert Horry 7
Michael Jordan 6

Idiot.

[DMC]

Great Shaq stats. It still doesn't answer my question though. Why didn't the Sp*rs make provisions to deal with him? They guarded him as a center by committee to let him get his. If need be, Pop would throw Tammy on him in a close game in the 4th.

I'm PO'd with Shaq for the above numbers you posted because he should have been able to sustain them for much longer than his fatass did. Instead he never reached his full (GOAT) potential. That's how he, like Tammy, ended up on the short end of the 5>4 schtick.

There were no "Shaq" provisions other than fouling him. You double teamed him, that's all you could do. It's not like you could bring in a Shaq stopper, he was playing for the Lakers already.

Teams who Shaq destroyed in the Finals, why didn't they make provisions for Shaq? Someone who averages 36 points a game, 17 rebounds or so... you have to make provisions for that. Them's Jordan points numbers, Better than Hakeem rebound numbers.

Michael Jordan Finals Career Average:

YEAR	Opponent	G	MPG	FG%	3P%	FT%	ORB	DRB	RPG	APG	SPG	BPG	TO	PF	PPG
1990-91	Lakers	5	44.0	.558	.500	.848	1.6	5.0	6.6	11.4	2.8	1.40	3.6	3.6	31.2
1991-92	Trail Blazers	6	42.3	.526	.429	.891	1.0	3.8	4.8	6.5	1.7	0.33	2.0	3.5	35.8
1992-93	Suns	6	45.7	.508	.400	.694	2.5	6.0	8.5	6.3	1.7	0.67	2.7	3.3	41.0
1995-96	Supersonics	6	42.0	.415	.316	.836	1.7	3.7	5.3	4.2	1.7	0.17	3.0	2.8	27.3
1996-97	Jazz	6	42.7	.456	.320	.764	1.5	5.5	7.0	6.0	1.2	0.83	2.2	2.3	32.3
1997-98	Jazz	6	41.7	.427	.308	.814	1.5	2.5	4.0	2.3	1.8	0.67	1.7	2.2	33.5
Finals		5.8	43.0	.481	.368	.806	1.8	4.4	6.0	6.0	1.8	0.66	2.4	2.9	33.6

Hakeem's Finals stats: 32.8 PPG, 11.5 RPG, 5.5 APG, 2.0 SPG, 2.0 BPG



1990-1991, that was just sick. The only way we ever see that again is if Lebron does it, and he has the ability. He just has teammates that can also score the ball.

So you tell me, what provisions could anyone "bring in" to deal with that? We had the 1st overall pick in Duncan, and he play Shaq very tough, but in those years during the 3peat, no one could touch Shaq.

[DMC]

why is lebron held to a different standard when compared to jordan but kome has lower standards to meet jordan?

so does this mean lebron has already exceeded kobe and is equal or greater then jordan?

kobe s love to play the hgh game, going balls deep into white ladies is like some supers ious s love to rejuvenate themselves is just the same as hgh

Lebron led his team to the Finals 4 times and won 2 of those. Kobe arguably led his team three times and won two of those. There's so disagreement about his role, but just for arguments sake it's 3 Finals appearances for Kobe, 4 for Lebron. 2 rings, 2 Finals MVPs, but 4>1 for season MVP in favor of Lebron.

If Lebron goes back this year, it will be the first time in a while that a team made 4 consecutive Finals appearances. The Lakers almost did it but missed 2003. Had they not missed that and had Kobe not tied the team up in his rape trial fiasco, and had Kobe passed the ball during the Finals, the Lakers could have had a 5peat.

[Killakobe81]

How did Kobe's name enter this discussion, tbh?..we're discussing the best player in the league and his attempt to make efficiency history, not a currently irrelevant player that is coming off a season where he was the leader of arguably the most disappointing team in the history of the NBA..relax..

this I agree with whole-heartedly except the most disappointing team part,which is an exaggeration. The 2004 Lakers were worse considering Shaqobe was in their prime and they added Malone and GP who are a greater combo even at their advanced age than Nash/Pau ...

Lebron has been amazing and yet few are making a huge deal tbh ... and if season ended today and he did NOT get MVP it would be a travesty on par with Malone over MJ, David over Hakeem and Nash winning back2back over Lebron/kobe.

[m>s]

Pretty subtle and ever for a n!gger

[Killakobe81]

Lebron led his team to the Finals 4 times and won 2 of those. Kobe arguably led his team three times and won two of those. There's so disagreement about his role, but just for arguments sake it's 3 Finals appearances for Kobe, 4 for Lebron. 2 rings, 2 Finals MVPs, but 4>1 for season MVP in favor of Lebron.

If Lebron goes back this year, it will be the first time in a while that a team made 4 consecutive Finals appearances. The Lakers almost did it but missed 2003. Had they not missed that and had Kobe not tied the team up in his rape trial fiasco, and had Kobe passed the ball during the Finals, the Lakers could have had a 5peat.

Kobe was a major part of that ... Colorado, shaq feud but Shaq was big part of that as well.
And assuming Lakers 5peat is a as dense as saying MJ 8 peats if he doesnt retire for baseball. So disrespectful to Rox and Spurs who I think still win at least one of those les stoping MJ's 8 peat or Shaqobe 5 peat ...

[TDMVPDPOY]

Kobe was a major part of that ... Colorado, shaq feud but Shaq was big part of that as well.
And assuming Lakers 5peat is a as dense as saying MJ 8 peats if he doesnt retire for baseball. So disrespectful to Rox and Spurs who I think still win at least one of those les stoping MJ's 8 peat or Shaqobe 5 peat ...

saying the lakers couldve 5 peat...is like saying the spurs couldve 5 peat also....

[DMC]

Kobe was a major part of that ... Colorado, shaq feud but Shaq was big part of that as well.
And assuming Lakers 5peat is a as dense as saying MJ 8 peats if he doesnt retire for baseball. So disrespectful to Rox and Spurs who I think still win at least one of those les stoping MJ's 8 peat or Shaqobe 5 peat ...

Pretty sure Shaq had nothing to do with Colorado. Kobe took too goddamn many shots, as made evident by the stats I posted. You have guy who's unstoppable in the paint and you chuck up long range jumpers and deny him the ball. That's what Shaq was pissed about, Kobe's glory hounding cost him a ring.

[DMC]

saying the lakers couldve 5 peat...is like saying the spurs couldve 5 peat also....

You have to 2peat first. Lakers 3peated, and one Finals miss and they were right back in the Finals.

[DMC]

this I agree with whole-heartedly except the most disappointing team part,which is an exaggeration. The 2004 Lakers were worse considering Shaqobe was in their prime and they added Malone and GP who are a greater combo even at their advanced age than Nash/Pau ...

Lebron has been amazing and yet few are making a huge deal tbh ... and if season ended today and he did NOT get MVP it would be a travesty on par with Malone over MJ, David over Hakeem and Nash winning back2back over Lebron/kobe.

Eh..no. They made the Finals that year. You cannot call that "the most disappointing year" when your totally staaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaacked team struggled to make the playoffs and got swept in the 1st round by the oldest, tiredest birds in the league.

[DMC]

DMC is ing re ed and a joke to this forum

BRO STOP POSTING AND LEAVE LIKE YOU SAID YOU WOULD YOU STUPID !

Made him bring out the all caps.

[ezau]

For the record, I was happy he left. I was just pissed that inconsistent ass Odumb was the centerpiece of what we got in return for him. We should have gotten more. Then Odumb didn't amount to until Pau showed up.

Never denied my disdain for Shaq. We were supposed to win more than we did. Shaq's jealousy ed it up. Imagine how you'd feel as a fan if Duncan pulled the same Shaq did. That's all I'm saying.

Kobe wanted to be alpha, Shaq gave the keys to him and look at what happened: 4-1 drubbing by the Pistons in 04. Let's stop this revisionist bull and call a spade a spade: Shaquille O'Neal was the best player of the threepeat Lakers, not Kobe.