All points of creationism debunked

[phyzik]

It's ultimately up to you weather you accept the OVERWHELMING evidence against Creationism. You can deny belief all you want, but you cant deny FACT.



Ignorant people often cite that Evolution is just a "theory" but they do NOT understand what Scientific Theory actually means. Scientific theory is ALWAYS subject to peer scrutiny.... It is ALWAYS in question. Gravity is a "theory"... Would you oppose gravity as well? You cannot prove a scientific Theory, you can only DISPROVE it...... And having said that, the Theory of Evolution has lasted for at LEAST 150 years... Far longer than any other hypothesis... Subjected to peer review across any and all scientific venues you could possibly think of.... There are FACTS about Micro and Macro Biological evolution.... We have proven this for decades...

Of course there will be Creationists that will rebuke my FACTS because they just simply ignore them.... They posit that because they believe in something, it must be true, therefore every sign of evidence to the contrary must be false. In otherwords, they are ing idiots.

[CubanSucks]

I have posted some ed up in the past that may have been offensive to certain posters on this board.....

I would like it to be known that I have a drinking problem. Some already know this.

I sometimes drink a 12-pack or more a day by myself.

During those periods I have posted replies and topics that the next day I regret... sometimes avoiding certain locations like "The Club" because I have embarrased myself speaking out of tounge.

Ohh, I remember what I post, dont get me wrong... but I think on it the next day and feel really embarassed about it sometimes.

I have this same problem in real life... I speak my mind when I shouldnt be so forth-coming. I piss people off even when I dont intend to. It's in my nature to be fourthcoming.

I wont go into detail but I will admit I have a problem with alchohol, I cant remember the last day I went without a drink, and thats been over 10 years. It scares me, but I am not ready yet to face it.

I plead you to keep in mind this though... I Do NOT smoke cigarettes at work... It makes me sick having a cigarette until after 5pm and without a beer in hand... and as far as any alchohol is concerned, I dont have drinks during lunch unless my boss himself is buying them....

Its hard to explain... I can control myself during the work day, no problems, no cravings at all during the day.. either cigarettes or Beer.... but once work is done, all bets are off.

Im not some plastered that caries a flask to work... I can do without... But I know I also have a problem with it.... The main problem with that is that I dont feel like Im ready to take the addiction on.

Im going to be 31 come March 10th.

I have sky dived, been mountain biking all over Texas and other states, Been Kayaking for the past 2 years on some of the best waters Texas has to offer, raced at Alamo Dragway and the new San Antonio Raceway... But here I am, still ting my life away on alchohol....

Damn, I really need to take a hold of my life.

take a drink and calm down

[Skull-1]

It's ultimately up to you weather you accept the OVERWHELMING evidence against Creationism. You can deny belief all you want, but you cant deny FACT.

Like, duhhhhhhhhh. The scriptures do not teach Creationism. The Story of Creation is a parable. The idea it is literal is Christian tradition, not the Gospel.

[NASpurs]

It's ultimately up to you weather you accept the OVERWHELMING evidence against Creationism. You can deny belief all you want, but you cant deny FACT.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmQZ4f9f_Yw

Ignorant people often cite that Evolution is just a "theory" but they do NOT understand what Scientific Theory actually means. Scientific theory is ALWAYS subject to peer scrutiny.... It is ALWAYS in question. Gravity is a "theory"... Would you oppose gravity as well? You cannot prove a scientific Theory, you can only DISPROVE it...... And having said that, the Theory of Evolution has lasted for at LEAST 150 years... Far longer than any other hypothesis... Subjected to peer review across any and all scientific venues you could possibly think of.... There are FACTS about Micro and Macro Biological evolution.... We have proven this for decades...

Of course there will be Creationists that will rebuke my FACTS because they just simply ignore them.... They posit that because they believe in something, it must be true, therefore every sign of evidence to the contrary must be false. In otherwords, they are ing idiots.

It's fun seeing this guy go bat crazy against religion when he makes posts like the one CubanSucks posted. Sounds like you need Jesus in your life bro.

[DMC]

It's ultimately up to you weather you accept the OVERWHELMING evidence against Creationism. You can deny belief all you want, but you cant deny FACT.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmQZ4f9f_Yw

Ignorant people often cite that Evolution is just a "theory" but they do NOT understand what Scientific Theory actually means. Scientific theory is ALWAYS subject to peer scrutiny.... It is ALWAYS in question. Gravity is a "theory"... Would you oppose gravity as well? You cannot prove a scientific Theory, you can only DISPROVE it...... And having said that, the Theory of Evolution has lasted for at LEAST 150 years... Far longer than any other hypothesis... Subjected to peer review across any and all scientific venues you could possibly think of.... There are FACTS about Micro and Macro Biological evolution.... We have proven this for decades...

Of course there will be Creationists that will rebuke my FACTS because they just simply ignore them.... They posit that because they believe in something, it must be true, therefore every sign of evidence to the contrary must be false. In otherwords, they are ing idiots.

No, theories graduate to become laws.

I can theorize that the Spurs will win their next game, but it's just a theory. Same thing.

[DMC]

Like, duhhhhhhhhh. The scriptures do not teach Creationism. The Story of Creation is a parable. The idea it is literal is Christian tradition, not the Gospel.

So the Bible doesn't teach creation ex-nihilo?

Two thousands years and all these lifetime biblical scholars believing it did. All they needed to do was ask you.

[phyzik]

Havnt had a drink since I posted that.... Awesome rebuttal though.

[phyzik]

Ohh... its just a parable... Just like rape in the bible, or child molestation in the bible, or oppression of women in the bible, or slavery in the bible......



OK, I get it now....

[phyzik]

Like, duhhhhhhhhh. The scriptures do not teach Creationism. The Story of Creation is a parable. The idea it is literal is Christian tradition, not the Gospel.

But you believe in the 10 commandments.... which is old testament.... You idiots cant pick and chose, that's my point. Your'e a bunch of cherry pickers and cant back your own beliefs.

If your "GOD" was so infallible, why would he need a rough draft (AKA the "Old Testament") before he created the "New testament" which is still riddled with obviously wrong information?

Either he does not exist or your God is a ing idiot. Either way, I'm glad I don't associate with him.

[phyzik]

Deuteronomy 22:28-29 ESV / 57 helpful votes

“If a man meets a virgin who is not betrothed, and seizes her and lies with her, and they are found, then the man who lay with her shall give to the father of the young woman fifty shekels of silver, and she shall be his wife, because he has violated her. He may not divorce her all his days.

Translation: A man who rapes a woman must pay the father and Mary the woman he raped... That woman must spend the rest of her life as the wife of the man who violated her in the most profound way.... Yeah, that's awesome thinking.

Leviticus 11:9-12 ESV / 25 helpful votes

“These you may eat, of all that are in the waters. Everything in the waters that has fins and scales, whether in the seas or in the rivers, you may eat. But anything in the seas or the rivers that has not fins and scales, of the swarming creatures in the waters and of the living creatures that are in the waters, is detestable to you. You shall regard them as detestable; you shall not eat any of their flesh, and you shall detest their carcasses. Everything in the waters that has not fins and scales is detestable to you.

Ohh, I see a lot of you ignorant ers at sea island on Sundays... your all damned.


I don't even have to get started on this .... just watch the video link I originally provided in the first post.... It IS one sided BECAUSE its scientific FACT. There is NO peer reviewed "creationist science" AT ALL. ITS ALL BEEN PROVEN WRONG, EVEN IN THE COURT OF LAW!!!

Regarding Abortion

Leviticus 27

And if it be from a month old even unto five years old, then thy estimation shall be of the male five shekels of silver, and for the female thy estimation shall be three shekels of silver.

So, according to the bible, a child is worth 5 silver.... What a great ing moral book!

Exodus 35:2 ESV / 57 helpful votes

Six days work shall be done, but on the seventh day you shall have a Sabbath of solemn rest, holy to the Lord. Whoever does any work on it shall be put to death.

Are you following your faith yet you ing hypocrites?

[ErnestLynch]

let me know how this ends

[phyzik]

Ohhh, come on... you know how it ends.... creationist will instill apologetics to assert their baseless claims and tons of sheep will follow them without thinking for themselves.

If there is no God, Im glad I am free....

If there is a God, I will be glad I do not fit to join his perfect North Korean ideology where we cannot think for ourselves and must conform to the mean and look forward to meeting those of my thinking in the alternate afterlife.

In other words, If your supposed "GOD" cannot see the good in me, he was never really worth my time in the first place, as I have done many great humanitarian things in my lifetime and will continue to do so. If he is SO PETTY as an omnipotent being that he requires MY belief in him in order to be judged as a good person, he is a god I would never trust.

The major difference between me and believers is that I have actually READ the bible page by page. If people would take the time to read it subjectively, it would seem to them as fictional, if not more so, than a Harry Potter or Lord of The Rings book.... But written more badly than either of the aforementioned writings of fiction I used as examples.

[mouse]

Now debunk Alternative Design.

[rascal]

It's ultimately up to you weather you accept the OVERWHELMING evidence against Creationism. You can deny belief all you want, but you cant deny FACT.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmQZ4f9f_Yw

Ignorant people often cite that Evolution is just a "theory" but they do NOT understand what Scientific Theory actually means. Scientific theory is ALWAYS subject to peer scrutiny.... It is ALWAYS in question. Gravity is a "theory"... Would you oppose gravity as well? You cannot prove a scientific Theory, you can only DISPROVE it...... And having said that, the Theory of Evolution has lasted for at LEAST 150 years... Far longer than any other hypothesis... Subjected to peer review across any and all scientific venues you could possibly think of.... There are FACTS about Micro and Macro Biological evolution.... We have proven this for decades...

Of course there will be Creationists that will rebuke my FACTS because they just simply ignore them.... They posit that because they believe in something, it must be true, therefore every sign of evidence to the contrary must be false. In otherwords, they are ing idiots.

You are an evil person who will have to stand before God and answer for all that you have done.

[I. Hustle]

It's ultimately up to you weather you accept the OVERWHELMING evidence against Creationism. You can deny belief all you want, but you cant deny FACT.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmQZ4f9f_Yw

Ignorant people often cite that Evolution is just a "theory" but they do NOT understand what Scientific Theory actually means. Scientific theory is ALWAYS subject to peer scrutiny.... It is ALWAYS in question. Gravity is a "theory"... Would you oppose gravity as well? You cannot prove a scientific Theory, you can only DISPROVE it...... And having said that, the Theory of Evolution has lasted for at LEAST 150 years... Far longer than any other hypothesis... Subjected to peer review across any and all scientific venues you could possibly think of.... There are FACTS about Micro and Macro Biological evolution.... We have proven this for decades...

Of course there will be Creationists that will rebuke my FACTS because they just simply ignore them.... They posit that because they believe in something, it must be true, therefore every sign of evidence to the contrary must be false. In otherwords, they are ing idiots.

You lost me at weather. All credibility was lost at that point.

[CubanSucks]

Havnt had a drink since I posted that.... Awesome rebuttal though.

Ohh... its just a parable... Just like rape in the bible, or child molestation in the bible, or oppression of women in the bible, or slavery in the bible......



OK, I get it now....

But you believe in the 10 commandments.... which is old testament.... You idiots cant pick and chose, that's my point. Your'e a bunch of cherry pickers and cant back your own beliefs.

If your "GOD" was so infallible, why would he need a rough draft (AKA the "Old Testament") before he created the "New testament" which is still riddled with obviously wrong information?

Either he does not exist or your God is a ing idiot. Either way, I'm glad I don't associate with him.

Deuteronomy 22:28-29 ESV / 57 helpful votes

“If a man meets a virgin who is not betrothed, and seizes her and lies with her, and they are found, then the man who lay with her shall give to the father of the young woman fifty shekels of silver, and she shall be his wife, because he has violated her. He may not divorce her all his days.

Translation: A man who rapes a woman must pay the father and Mary the woman he raped... That woman must spend the rest of her life as the wife of the man who violated her in the most profound way.... Yeah, that's awesome thinking.

Leviticus 11:9-12 ESV / 25 helpful votes

“These you may eat, of all that are in the waters. Everything in the waters that has fins and scales, whether in the seas or in the rivers, you may eat. But anything in the seas or the rivers that has not fins and scales, of the swarming creatures in the waters and of the living creatures that are in the waters, is detestable to you. You shall regard them as detestable; you shall not eat any of their flesh, and you shall detest their carcasses. Everything in the waters that has not fins and scales is detestable to you.

Ohh, I see a lot of you ignorant ers at sea island on Sundays... your all damned.


I don't even have to get started on this .... just watch the video link I originally provided in the first post.... It IS one sided BECAUSE its scientific FACT. There is NO peer reviewed "creationist science" AT ALL. ITS ALL BEEN PROVEN WRONG, EVEN IN THE COURT OF LAW!!!

Regarding Abortion

Leviticus 27

And if it be from a month old even unto five years old, then thy estimation shall be of the male five shekels of silver, and for the female thy estimation shall be three shekels of silver.

So, according to the bible, a child is worth 5 silver.... What a great ing moral book!

Exodus 35:2 ESV / 57 helpful votes

Six days work shall be done, but on the seventh day you shall have a Sabbath of solemn rest, holy to the Lord. Whoever does any work on it shall be put to death.

Are you following your faith yet you ing hypocrites?

Ohhh, come on... you know how it ends.... creationist will instill apologetics to assert their baseless claims and tons of sheep will follow them without thinking for themselves.

If there is no God, Im glad I am free....

If there is a God, I will be glad I do not fit to join his perfect North Korean ideology where we cannot think for ourselves and must conform to the mean and look forward to meeting those of my thinking in the alternate afterlife.

In other words, If your supposed "GOD" cannot see the good in me, he was never really worth my time in the first place, as I have done many great humanitarian things in my lifetime and will continue to do so. If he is SO PETTY as an omnipotent being that he requires MY belief in him in order to be judged as a good person, he is a god I would never trust.

The major difference between me and believers is that I have actually READ the bible page by page. If people would take the time to read it subjectively, it would seem to them as fictional, if not more so, than a Harry Potter or Lord of The Rings book.... But written more badly than either of the aforementioned writings of fiction I used as examples.

This is obviously a call for help. You need Jesus, brother.

[I. Hustle]

Havnt had a post since I drinkeded that.... Hawesome rapbattle toes.

[xmas1997]

First off, I will say I don't know about creationist theory, if it even is a theory. I always thought that it came about because a certain tiny sect of Christians were fed up and reacting to the scientific community since they were winning the battle of what was taught in schools, and thus to counter the no religion in schools and government stance.
To my way of thinking it was ridiculous.

Both sides, "is a God" versus "isn't a god", have taken this stuff too far and have blown it all out of proportion.
It has gotten to the point now where formal education cannot say school is out for "Christmas vacation" anymore because it insults the nonChristian community and violates the separation of church and state.
No, they have to say it is Winter vacation or some hogwash like that.

Evolution theory is pretty much accepted by most critical thinking academia, and rightly so, but it is not a proven law, it is still very much a theory. Whereas gravity is a law, yet the theory of gravity is still theorized. There is still very much about it we do not understand.
There is still very much about evolution we do not understand as well, thus why it is still just a theory.

As for God? Who can understand that concept? It is pretty much a mystery, either way.

If there is a God, then fantastic.
I seriously doubt He would be as narrow minded as many humans are.
I doubt He would hold it against a good and decent law abiding moral man just because that man chose not to believe in Him, or because other religious men said God would punish him for not believing in Him. That is a very narrow point of view IMHO and belittles God to the extreme.

And if there isn't a God, then why is it so important for someone who does not believe to make such a big deal against those who do?
We don't make a such a big deal about believing, or not believing, in Santa Claus, the tooth fairy, the Easter bunny, Valentines Day Cupid, leprechauns, dragons, unicorns, or UFOs, do we?
So why all the hoopla?
Why all the butthurt?

The religious community is butthurt because they believe the court system has gone too far, while the legal establishment is butthurt and reacting to court suits that maintain separation of church and state, and they have gone too far.

Both these points of view are extremes and miss the central point IMHO.
That point is "too much, or too little, of ANYTHING is not good for you, there needs to be a balance."

If God does not exist, then fine, because ultimately, what difference will it make?
None.
And if He does exist, then fine too, because He is so far beyond anyone's conception that no man as of yet can understand Him, we only have bits and pieces that make sense. And no religious book or books have even a clue. They are guesses at best.

So again, why all the hoopla?
Why all the butthurt?
Why all the extreme political correctness?
It behooves me!

[rascal]

Deuteronomy 22:28-29 ESV / 57 helpful votes

“If a man meets a virgin who is not betrothed, and seizes her and lies with her, and they are found, then the man who lay with her shall give to the father of the young woman fifty shekels of silver, and she shall be his wife, because he has violated her. He may not divorce her all his days.

Translation: A man who rapes a woman must pay the father and Mary the woman he raped... That woman must spend the rest of her life as the wife of the man who violated her in the most profound way.... Yeah, that's awesome thinking.

Leviticus 11:9-12 ESV / 25 helpful votes

“These you may eat, of all that are in the waters. Everything in the waters that has fins and scales, whether in the seas or in the rivers, you may eat. But anything in the seas or the rivers that has not fins and scales, of the swarming creatures in the waters and of the living creatures that are in the waters, is detestable to you. You shall regard them as detestable; you shall not eat any of their flesh, and you shall detest their carcasses. Everything in the waters that has not fins and scales is detestable to you.

Ohh, I see a lot of you ignorant ers at sea island on Sundays... your all damned.


I don't even have to get started on this .... just watch the video link I originally provided in the first post.... It IS one sided BECAUSE its scientific FACT. There is NO peer reviewed "creationist science" AT ALL. ITS ALL BEEN PROVEN WRONG, EVEN IN THE COURT OF LAW!!!

Regarding Abortion

Leviticus 27

And if it be from a month old even unto five years old, then thy estimation shall be of the male five shekels of silver, and for the female thy estimation shall be three shekels of silver.

So, according to the bible, a child is worth 5 silver.... What a great ing moral book!

Exodus 35:2 ESV / 57 helpful votes

Six days work shall be done, but on the seventh day you shall have a Sabbath of solemn rest, holy to the Lord. Whoever does any work on it shall be put to death.

Are you following your faith yet you ing hypocrites?

Meanings are lost in translation and you end up drawing an entirly incorrect interpretation. The old testament ways were done away with after Jesus.

[rascal]

You know this guy phyzik killed 3 people so he is scared as to have to answer to that after he dies so in his world it would be far better if there was no God.

[DMC]

Xmas, That's a lot of rambling just to say "believe what you want".

[xmas1997]

Meanings are lost in translation and you end up drawing an entirly incorrect interpretation. The old testament ways were done away with after Jesus.

Not by the Jews it wasn't.

[DMC]

Meanings are lost in translation and you end up drawing an entirly incorrect interpretation. The old testament ways were done away with after Jesus.

Yet the Christian stance is that the OT is the word of God, it's still part of their bible, and no it wasn't done away with. Christians just ignore the sacrifice because it's cheaper to do so. They ins uted a pay online system and gave themselves unlimited free minutes to God.

[xmas1997]

Xmas, That's a lot of rambling just to say "believe what you want".

Maybe so, but there are a lot of anal people out there who need to be woken up IMHO, and sometimes a rational detailed explanation is the only thing that will do it.
I could have easily said what you said, or even better said, "who gives a ?"

[RD2191]