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    I never noticed it until the Sunday Night game against Kansas City.

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    Yeah, he's a beast. Pin point, and quick. Plus, they run a lot of rub routes as well. If done right, a guy is open every time. I personally don't like it, it's the equivalent of a moving pick in basketball imo. But, everyone can do it, so it's all good. Plus, he has no problem with dumping it to Moreno 8 or 9 times if he has to if the deep ball isn't there. Smart as a whip, and has a lot of tools to work with. He may have the best foursome in the league, Thomas/Welker/Decker/O.J. With those weapons it's a lot easier to get the ball out so fast because the trust is there when the talent is.

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    Brady > Manning tbh

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    Even in Indy his tackles weren't that great (though not as bad as the Broncos situation now), so it was sink or swim and he's adapted pretty damn well. He also does a decent job moving within the pocket to by an extra half second. Those instances where he has time and room to step up, it's over.

    Bradys ability to to get rid of the ball quick is also underrated. But we always remember those few plays a game where he seems to have 10+ seconds and is just sitting in the pocket, bouncing around ferdayz

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    Manning, Brady, and Rodgers have quick releases...probably the best in the league. However, you see what the Chiefs couldn't do and what the Colts did was be disruptive with the gap blitzes and hurried Peyton into more unsteady decisions. That's how you beat him and has been the recipe throughout his illustrious career. What he did against KC was masterful and that o-line played better than it had been in previous weeks. It's going to be hard to beat the Broncos this year if Manning keeps being flexible.

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    I know as of oct 19th Stafford was the fastest in the league at 2.21 seconds. Can't find stats on quickest release since though. Need to subscribe to profootballfocus.com to get them. Just wish his accuracy was a little bit better.

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    I know as of oct 19th Stafford was the fastest in the league at 2.21 seconds. Can't find stats on quickest release since though. Need to subscribe to profootballfocus.com to get them. Just wish his accuracy was a little bit better.
    I wonder how many of those passes are blind tosses to Megatron, though, tbh..

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    I wonder how many of those passes are blind tosses to Megatron, though, tbh..
    lol ya. Stafford is an above average qb. Still has quite a ways to go though to be considered elite imo. but he is still very young. only 25. and CJ just turned 28 in september. Those two are going to break a lot of records in the coming years. Hopefully it comes with a lot of wins as well.

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    It amazes me he only has 1 SB ring. Honestly, the guy is a God as a QB. I did notice he kind of dissapeared mentally in the playoffs last year though.

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    It amazes me he only has 1 SB ring. Honestly, the guy is a God as a QB. I did notice he kind of dissapeared mentally in the playoffs last year though.
    I mean no disrespect partner but when its the Colts and Patriots decade, one would buy into the idea that Peyton would win more than one. It says a lot about him to only win one in an era dominated by him and the cHeatriots. I watched him year after year choke countless times with the lone exception of that year when we had a relatively easy path to a Superbowl ring. As an unbiased observer, Peyton is a rich man's version of Tony Romo. I remember a dear good ole friend of mine from Mississippi talking that Eli would be the better Manning. God was he right. Props to you if you're reading partner.

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    Veteran Thebesteva's Avatar
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    I mean no disrespect partner but when its the Colts and Patriots decade, one would buy into the idea that Peyton would win more than one. It says a lot about him to only win one in an era dominated by him and the cHeatriots. I watched him year after year choke countless times with the lone exception of that year when we had a relatively easy path to a Superbowl ring. As an unbiased observer, Peyton is a rich man's version of Tony Romo. I remember a dear good ole friend of mine from Mississippi talking that Eli would be the better Manning. God was he right. Props to you if you're reading partner.
    Honestly,
    I hope you're wrong but I completely saw a mental breakdown of Peyton last season during the playoffs. To be fair, EVERY ING THING went against us in that game. The moment we lost Knowshawn Moreno I knew it was over, even being up a few scores. We had already lost our starting RB and to lose Moreno, that was too much for a guy like Peyton to handle.

    The calls were atrocious, it was criminal honestly. Every ing call was against the Broncos. But overall, the Manning in the playoffs kind of reminds me of a nervous and aged Mike Tyson who would mentally break down after the 5th round in a fight.

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    It amazes me he only has 1 SB ring. Honestly, the guy is a God as a QB. I did notice he kind of dissapeared mentally in the playoffs last year though.
    you forgot the other 10+ playoff appearances

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    I mean no disrespect partner but when its the Colts and Patriots decade, one would buy into the idea that Peyton would win more than one. It says a lot about him to only win one in an era dominated by him and the cHeatriots. I watched him year after year choke countless times with the lone exception of that year when we had a relatively easy path to a Superbowl ring. As an unbiased observer, Peyton is a rich man's version of Tony Romo. I remember a dear good ole friend of mine from Mississippi talking that Eli would be the better Manning. God was he right. Props to you if you're reading partner.
    Eli is not better than Peyton, seriously he was wrong... He had a few breaks during that run he had, not saying he was not good but the two le runs he had Eli was getting some lucky bounces too. If Peyton wins this year how was Eli the better Manning? I would not even call it close, infact Eli is nowhere near Peyton if that happens, period.

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    LOL@ Colt fan talking down on Peyton AFTER he's gone. It's safe to assume there was perpetual knob slobbing while he was in a Colt Uni.

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    He's pretty quick, but Marino had the quickest release I have ever seen. The ball was gone instantly once he made up his mind.

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    Peyton's always been a choker, dating back to his college days when he couldn't beat Florida.... clowned by Jeebo Danny Wuerffel

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    Sec champion, tbh

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    Bernoullin' niggas! BUMP's Avatar
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    Eli>Peyton

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    I mean no disrespect partner but when its the Colts and Patriots decade, one would buy into the idea that Peyton would win more than one. It says a lot about him to only win one in an era dominated by him and the cHeatriots.
    Had the Colts defense known in advance every play the Cheatriots were running, no doubt the ass Patriots would not have looked so *good* and the outcome would be a fair one.

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    Had the Colts defense known in advance every play the Cheatriots were running, no doubt the ass Patriots would not have looked so *good* and the outcome would be a fair one.

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    crazy to think Peyton is underrated but apparently he is. he's had some choking moments, he's also had some great playoff games. There are also some where he dragged some ty teams into the playoffs, played well enough and the team still collapsed. His playoff stats aren't much different than Brady, except Brady always had a much better coached team with him. I don't think anyone is going to put Dungy, Caldwell or Fox in the same conversation as Belichick.

    Gotta agree with Sean Cagney, just no way I would ever put Eli above Peyton. Eli might be more clutch, but he's also had some underwhelming playoff games that are conveniently forgotten. I think if Eli and Peyton swapped teams, Peyton would do very well with Coughlin.

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    I don't understand how someone so great has so many choke jobs under his belt? Psychologically that is. I would understand losing a shootout to Brady/Brees/Rodgers occasionally but he has way too many losses to ty quarterbacks under his belt. Not to mention his numbers in general decline.

    I feel like if I were the baddest QB on the planet and I was playing against Mark Sanchez I'd just gladly stick my down his throat just like everybody else I beat in the 'regular season'. I just don't understand how all of a sudden that all goes away when it's a 'playoff game'.

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    I am NOT talking about quick release but the time he snaps the ball, processes what is in front of him and gets rid of the ball.

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    adolis is altuve’s father monosylab1k's Avatar
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    I don't understand how someone so great has so many choke jobs under his belt? Psychologically that is. I would understand losing a shootout to Brady/Brees/Rodgers occasionally but he has way too many losses to ty quarterbacks under his belt. Not to mention his numbers in general decline.

    I feel like if I were the baddest QB on the planet and I was playing against Mark Sanchez I'd just gladly stick my down his throat just like everybody else I beat in the 'regular season'. I just don't understand how all of a sudden that all goes away when it's a 'playoff game'.
    It's weird tbh.

    losing a playoff game against Billy Volek

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    Anyone saying Manning is underrated is full of . Everybody knows exactly how rated he is because you just have to look at the 2011 Colts and Broncos teams which both didn't have him. The Colts won two games, probably only because they had to play Tennessee (apparently the team you want to play if you're winless, e.g. 2013 Jaguars) and Houston at home (Texans can't win in Indy even if you spot them the lead and put Manning on IR). They won two games. The previous year's team, essentially the same squad plus Manning, had a storm of injuries at critical positions and still went 10-6 to win the division.

    The 2011 Broncos went 8-8 and played Tebow just about the right amount of time to not have a losing record. But the difference between the 2013 Broncos and 2011 Broncos has little to do with the talent of the team changing between then and now and a lot more about the talent between Manning and Tebow being about 9,001 miles wide. And even though he played on teams that had Marvin Harrison, Reggie Wayne and Dallas Clark all playing on the field at the same time, the 2013 Broncos are the deepest team Manning has played on as far as receiving threats go. And even with the injuries, their offensive line is so good. I still say Manning going to Denver had everything to do with their offensive line.

    At this point it's impossible to overrate or underrate Manning. You're going to get a QB who will make the team a of a lot better than they were with the previous guy, but he absolutely can't win you a Super Bowl by himself. If Manning gets another Super Bowl, his teammates are going to have to do it for him. The one Super Bowl he does have he played like garbage the entire playoffs except one really good second half against the Patriots, threw more picks than TDs and was bailed out by his defense constantly. And I said that about him when he was still on the Colts.

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