This is one of the best articles that ESPN has ever written. Even the liberal media is starting to see the light and move past the politically correct agenda.
http://m.espn.go.com/nfl/story?storyId=10037207
There is just too much money involved for teams to be wasting their time on quarterbacks who specialize in Monkeyballism.
I'm mean sure if all the team is trying to do is get media attention, make the top 10 sportscenter plays of the week, make Jesse and Al proud, etc. then by all means keep on monkeyballling.... But you if you want to actually get serious and try and win then you have to put silly gimmick QB's like that away.
That's why they need QB's that can stay in the pocket and run when they need to. That's the true formula. Russell Wilson, Cam Newton, etc.
Cam's not that good of a pocket passer. The Panthers don't have a strong passing attack overall and are carried by the defense throughout the season.
Solid post. The Panthers are currently ranked 26th in the NFL in total offense and 30th in passing offense. It's hard to argue with the facts, but I'm sure No LYF3 Scrub will because he has taken blind homerism instead of logic to a whole new level since the Panthers started having success.
He's a blatant homer. He's become a caricature on this forum.
lol @ calling Cam a pocket passer
I'd like to see someone find the amount of first downs he gets with his legs as opposed to with his arm.
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Definitely a good article, and non-racist football fans regardless of color know this is a major issue. It's hard to see it really changing, though. Spread systems continue to dominate the college game. I can't see the schools who are successful with running quarterbacks doing anything differently. There's just no point in teaching athletic QBs to read defenses when monkeyball works just as well.
Carolina is 22nd in the league in total passing first downs and 2nd in the league in total rushing first downs, tbh.... they're 29th in passing first down percentage and 4th in rushing first down percentage.... 21st in passing first downs per game and 3rd in rushing first downs per game....
's individual first down percentage when throwing on 3rd down is worse than Kellen Clemens', Josh McCown's and Ryan Fitzpatrick's
Boiled down::: is a game manager who can't be trusted to get it done on third down with his arm
ROFL at No LyF3 trying to disguise his post as an actual take and then trying to tiptoe his homerism through the backdoor only to get sniffed out immediately
Carolina is 22nd in the league in total passing first downs and 2nd in the league in total rushing first downs, tbh.... they're 29th in passing first down percentage and 4th in rushing first down percentage.... 21st in passing first downs per game and 3rd in rushing first downs per game....
's individual first down percentage when throwing on 3rd down is worse than Kellen Clemens', Josh McCown's and Ryan Fitzpatrick's
Boiled down::: is a game manager who can't be trusted to get it done on third down with his arm
It's cute how you ignore Cam is second in third down effeciency abs second in the league on 3rd down QBR:Carolina is 22nd in the league in total passing first downs and 2nd in the league in total rushing first downs, tbh.... they're 29th in passing first down percentage and 4th in rushing first down percentage.... 21st in passing first downs per game and 3rd in rushing first downs per game....
's individual first down percentage when throwing on 3rd down is worse than Kellen Clemens', Josh McCown's and Ryan Fitzpatrick's
Boiled down::: is a game manager who can't be trusted to get it done on third down with his arm
boiled down to 8-3 and 2 people having more passing yards thru three years. Suck on them apples
yeah, I'm the homer Mr. "The Saints r good on the road"
They've always been good on the road. It's just their almost unbeatable at home. That's the big difference.
yeah, I'm the homer Mr. "The Saints r good on the road"
Haha we'll see how good next weekend
Son don't bring the Saints into your ridiculous claim about Cam.
yeah, I'm the homer Mr. "The Saints r good on the road"
It's not homerism. The Saints have been the 4th best road team in the NFL over the last three years (and even better than that if you want to go back 5, 6, or 8 years. Do I need to link you to the post with the statistical facts?
The Saints are a very good road team. They barely lost to the NE Patriots in Brady Stadium and beat the resurgent Cards in the desert. They can easily go into Seattle and take home a win or Charlotte and smash on Monkeyball Cam Laude, too.
Monkeyball advocates don't like facts.
Nearly all NFL teams are better at home than on the road. Pretty much every team in every sport plays better at home than they do on the road. The Patriots are just crazy good on the road (18-6 in last 3 years).
If you look at New England's schedule over those three years, the road games have for the most part been gimme games. I don't think they're that good on the road (2-3 this year), the schedule has just been a joke for years because of how weak the AFC and the AFC East in particular is.
And as you said, New England is still better at home. I think that they have 2 regular season home losses total in 2009-2012 and this year. As Gemini said, being a flukey 1 minute drive away from beating New England @ Foxboro is impressive.
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I don't know why fans of teams with game managers at QB take such offense to the label, tbh
It seems like the only fanbases of good teams that accept having a game managing QB is Kansas City's, maybe Cinci's and I guess 49ers fans have come to terms with Kaepernick being a game manager..
The new breed of game managing stars(Wilson, Newton) reminds me of the NBA's new breed of big men as star role players(Roy Hibbert, Noah, Chandler, etc)..
I like facts, tbh.
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