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    They will stay with/go away from the Splitter/Duncan duo depending on match ups. That's what the interest in AK-47 was about and what the Spurs are looking for in Thomas. Lets not forget the real reason why Splitter was re-signed...to help fill the void in the paint when Duncan leaves not necessarily to play with Duncan(though I expect they will still play a lot together).
    I personally disagree. I think they (being the Spurs) were looking for a legit defensive big man to pair with Tim in the starting lineup. They started Bonner & Blair because they had to, not because it was ideal. We saw last year how good this pairing could be with Tim's new game and it's still looked fine (especially defensively) despite Tim's horrible start.

    I have not doubt they will play match ups, but I don't think they signed Splitter for when Tim was off the court. I believe they signed him because they believed TnT was here to stay.

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    Just check Baynes and De Colo's numbers with the Toros on Sunday before getting too excited about Thomas potential production in the NBA
    Decolo's numbers were absolutely redonk...

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    Decolo's numbers were absolutely redonk...
    It's easy to forget, but Nando de Colo can play basketball.

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    It's easy to forget, but Nando de Colo can play basketball.
    Exactly. He actually did quite well for a rookie in the NBA (although he's more seasoned that most NBA rookies). The Spurs have tremendous guard depth and he still has a lot to iron out in his game. Despite that, he is a really solid basketball players if he could strengthen some of his weaknesses.

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    Splitter was arguably his best with the second unit. His defense is key against big teams, but other mobile bigs can home their own against PnR teams. Those players would also be able to handle stretch fours, which is a big deal if Houston makes it. Splitter may well start a lot, but the team will need to feel someone else could.

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    Ayres is already better than this guy, not too excited nor do I expect him to make an impact. If he does play well, who gets traded?

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    I personally disagree. I think they (being the Spurs) were looking for a legit defensive big man to pair with Tim in the starting lineup. They started Bonner & Blair because they had to, not because it was ideal. We saw last year how good this pairing could be with Tim's new game and it's still looked fine (especially defensively) despite Tim's horrible start.

    I have not doubt they will play match ups, but I don't think they signed Splitter for when Tim was off the court. I believe they signed him because they believed TnT was here to stay.
    Of course they signed him for when Duncan was gone. Why would they have paid him a fully guaranteed 36 million otherwise? I agree that in the short term(while Duncan was still here) they planned to play the two together as much as possible, but more than anything the Spurs did not want to get left out in the cold with no big man presence to replace Duncan in the paint. Splitter is a good paint defender, passer and more importantly is an elite pick and roll player...which will be important to have going forward with Parker.

    The short term was thought of too...but make no mistake...that contract Splitter got was absolutely about him being the best available option as the Spurs transition beyond the Duncan era.

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    De Colo and Baynes are quality players even if they are on the deep end of Spurs bench.

    What is intriguing about Thomas isn't the stats he put in 2 D-League games because it's only the D-League and it's only 2 games. What is intriguing is the 8 3's he made in these 2 games while he made something like 5 3's in the previous 5 years between College, NBA, D-League and overseas game.

    If Thomas can confirm with Spurs that he has developed a reliable 3 point shot this summer, it makes him a damn interesting player. A bigman with his athletic, defensive and rebounding qualities, who is able to stretch the defense, could be so useful in the NBA.

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    I am just not sure they were thinking that far ahead. I think it was about winning now more than anything else. They couldn't afford to lose him now because with Tim having 2 years left (this year and next under contract) losing Tiago would have been/could have been a massive blow to competing for a le. TP's contract runs out the same time as Tim so who knows what will happen then.

    I don't think they were too concerned about keeping Tiago for the future, but now. They paid him a fully guaranteed 36M because that is what the market called for. If they didn't do that, they ran the risk of losing him and where would they be?

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    Would be amazing if he turns out to be that long lost big type player Spurs have been searching for years for. I like this signing though, low risk high reward.

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    We'll agree to disagree. I fully expect them to re-sign Parker. Again...I agree that now was also in the thought process, but I feel not having to deal with a full rebuild after Duncan left weighed heavier into the decision.

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    Saw he was signed to a 10-day contract. Thought teams weren't allowed to give those out yet?

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    We'll agree to disagree. I fully expect them to re-sign Parker. Again...I agree that now was also in the thought process, but I feel not having to deal with a full rebuild after Duncan left weighed heavier into the decision.
    I hope you are right. I agree, they very likely will re-sign TP (I also think Tim could play another 2 years too which factored into the decision..).

    Tiago is here either way and I am fine with that.

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    Saw he was signed to a 10-day contract. Thought teams weren't allowed to give those out yet?
    Your are right, it's not possible yet.

    http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q78
    Teams may sign players to 10-day contracts starting January 5 each season.

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    Tiago is a situational player who is there to play against the Grizz and a handful of others but he is not Tue answer. If Pop is not comfortable dictating the personnel and play style then Tiago is not the answer. He's not the solution to life after Tim, has no offense whatsoever outside his pick n roll game. Doesn't get any work in the post and that sweeping hook is inconsistent.

    Hopefully Thomas gets a real look and not just floor seats to watch a few games.

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    I'm keeping my expectations low, he probably rots on the bench and doesn't get any playing time, the Spurs always do this .

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    They were regular season winning, not WCF/Finals winning. To me that is a big difference. While that pairing has not been as good this year, it's still been incredible at defending the paint and with Duncan seemingly rounding into form, it appears as if the pairing is quite sound.
    actually, some stats so far this season (apart from the last couple games) suggest the contrary:

    Tiago on court while Duncan's benched: 83.6 points allowed per 100 possessions
    Tiago and Duncan on court at the same time: 90.2 points allowed per 100 possessions

    yes it's a small sample size, so take it for what it's worth

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    Sure - but that is overall defense (which its still very good). I was strictly talking about defending the paint.

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    If he can at least bump Ayers off the roster this year then I would say a job well done.

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    http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2013/...?#article-copy

    Thomas isn’t expected to suit up until Saturday against Indianapolis.

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    Lookz like lakerfan iz SOL lol

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    If he can at least bump Ayers off the roster this year then I would say a job well done.
    Ayres signed a deal for guaranteed money that runs for two seasons. Do you really think theres anyways that hes going to get cut barring something bizarre like criminal charges or a Stephen Jackson-esque meltdown?

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    There's still no official announcement on the Spurs website. He's also not listed on nba dot com in the player section. They're pretty good about updating for signings or cuts. He was not listed as either active or inactive on the box score from last night. I'm beginning to think he hasn't actually signed yet.

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    I'm beginning to think he hasn't actually signed yet.
    Well, he obviously hasn't been signed since Spurs haven't made a press release about it.

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    De Colo and Baynes are quality players even if they are on the deep end of Spurs bench.

    What is intriguing about Thomas isn't the stats he put in 2 D-League games because it's only the D-League and it's only 2 games. What is intriguing is the 8 3's he made in these 2 games while he made something like 5 3's in the previous 5 years between College, NBA, D-League and overseas game.

    If Thomas can confirm with Spurs that he has developed a reliable 3 point shot this summer, it makes him a damn interesting player. A bigman with his athletic, defensive and rebounding qualities, who is able to stretch the defense, could be so useful in the NBA.
    Two games aren't a big sample size, however, that was a lot of 3's in 2 games!

    If he's a 3 and D type of player, then he make likely stick!

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