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Of course he wanted it.
tbh I think if he really lobbied for it he would have it. Would they really pick Sarkisian over him?
Sark is family and Sumlin is largely viewed as a Manziel creation.
Except for his whole successful pre-Manziel coaching career.
At Houston... USC doesn't give a about Houston.
Lobbied is an ambiguous term, as one can call to express interest and church on process status and reaffirm interest, but I don't consider that lobbied. Lobby to me indicates excessive levels of interest, public acknowledgement of interest, even at the expense of current employment.
Jack del Rio lobbied. That said, that's just my interpretation.
The truth is, if USC or Texas are expressing genuine interest, you'd be a fool to stay at A&M. It's not level ground. In college football the difference twixt very good gigs and great gigs is monumental.
His Houston career was no different than his Aggy career, tbh.... he's a questionable coach at best who's been lucky enough to stand on the sidelines while Keenum and Johnny Inbred pad their stats, tbh.... he didn't even recruit Keenum or Inbred, tbh
Also, Briles (a real coach) did all the hard work of making Houston respectable again, while Sumlin merely reaped the benefits of it after Briles left.... then he was handed a bunch of talent that Sherman had recruited when he went to Aggy....
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My CN dropping troofbombs. Briles had Keenum there already, and Briles also made Kolb look decent.His Houston career was no different than his Aggy career, tbh.... he's a questionable coach at best who's been lucky enough to stand on the sidelines while Keenum and Johnny Inbred pad their stats, tbh.... he didn't even recruit Keenum or Inbred, tbh
Also, Briles (a real coach) did all the hard work of making Houston respectable again, while Sumlin merely reaped the benefits of it after Briles left.... then he was handed a bunch of talent that Sherman had recruited when he went to Aggy....
man i thought sumlin and johnny to the texans was inevitable
man i thought sumlin and johnny to the texans was inevitable
That's another thing - I don't get the idea some people have that Sumlin will end up in the NFL, tbh.... he's a college coach who runs a gimmick offense, and he has no track record of player development to speak of.... he would just be another Spurrier at the NFL level, imho....man i thought sumlin and johnny to the texans was inevitable
If you're going to hire a college coach for an NFL team, it would have to be someone like Briles, Petersen, or Snyder, who have a long history of developing low-ranked and overlooked recruits into NFL talent, tbh....
damn i was just kidding, i know the clippers lost last night but chill broheim
but yeah good takes though, petersen should gtfo of boise, tbh
is Sark really that much better than Sumlin though? seemed pretty mediocre at UW. I don't know how they didn't hire Orgeron after what he was able to do. pretty dumb.
Holgorson was there too
Sark is family. That forgives a mul ude of sins.
But, yeah, USC took an average coach who'll recruit at an elite level, who's a bit of a ... Sounds a lot like Kiffen, only Sark is their boy.
I'm really not sure why they settled. I doubt it's a "couldn't do better" situation. He'll, they could have offered 4+ million to Todd Graham at ASU and he'd have been a better choice.
Sumlin was a sexy name because of his offense and he could sell "developing" Johnny Heisman, but in the end they saw through the gimmick and realized it was better to get a known commodity. Sark is a damn good recruiter and motivator. Just have to have more talent so his coaching doesn't undercut progress.
But a big thing, I think, is I believe the AD can control Sark a bit more.
If Briles and Sherman did all the work at Houston and Aggy, why didn't they have the same success Sumlin had at those schools?His Houston career was no different than his Aggy career, tbh.... he's a questionable coach at best who's been lucky enough to stand on the sidelines while Keenum and Johnny Inbred pad their stats, tbh.... he didn't even recruit Keenum or Inbred, tbh
Also, Briles (a real coach) did all the hard work of making Houston respectable again, while Sumlin merely reaped the benefits of it after Briles left.... then he was handed a bunch of talent that Sherman had recruited when he went to Aggy....
You mean 8-4 success this year?
Last year was a fluke and won't be repeated in this extension.
Your opinion, but regardless, it happened. It didn't happen with Mike Sherman.
Houston's winningest season in school history didn't happen with Art Briles.
And the Suns best records were coached by Westphal and D'Antoni. Not a single Suns fan would say either were great coaches, let alone best in team history.
s not always causal.
That's why Tebow's still unemployed despite a winning record as starting QB, including a playoff win.
A&M was foolish to extend him now. Cashed in on Johnny, who wasn't even his recruit.
Maybe we dodged a pitfall with Sumlin but Sarkisian is not going to fare any better than the Kiffin 2.0 moniker he has already garnered as our new coach.
I actually like Sumlin over Sark. I'm just explaining why USC likely didn't.
I think Sumlin is likeable, runs a quality gimmick offense, and is a better schemer than Sark. But I get the whole "unproven at elite level without Manziel" argument, and don't completely discount the "Sumlin cashed in on other's foundations/recruits" argument.
At A&M, he took over a team that was 16-9 previous two seasons, with 5 losses coming by one score, an O-line with a few NFL prospects, a quality defense, and an eventual Heisman winner who redshirted behind a 1st-rounder QB.
Sumlin inherited a good team with some bad luck, and reversed fortune just enough in just enough games to have an excellent season, but without the line and defense, those same breaks aren't there.
Just didn't prove enough.
I'm not disagreeing with you--I just don't rehash others' thoughts. That's what I think USC did and also the added known commodity was important because imagine if they did go the Sumlin route and they struggle to adjust and well, then the Orgeron apologists would grill Haden and the administration.
damn i was just kidding, i know the clippers lost last night but chill broheim
but yeah good takes though
Your post just reminded me of the delusional Aggyfans who were actually scared of him going to the NFL
Let's not get crazy, Sumlin is a great motivator and a great offensive mind, he reminds me of Mike Leach, but like Leach he hasn't shown any ability to coach defense. Not a big deal if he is a CEO on that side, Mack is a CEO on both sides of the ball.
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